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Old 12-15-2008, 02:51 PM   #1
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I don't know...that's TV talk...how about anyone different whether proven or not. This guy has had 10 years...we have even replaced the secretaries since Snyder took over and I don't think it's their fault.

The only time I ever felt like the Redskins were truely going in the right direction since Snyder has owned the team was during the second half of the season Marty was here. VC was gone and Snyder was in the background and the team really seemed like it had a plan and was heading somewhere. And I am probably the biggest Gibbs fan in the world but even during the years he was here you always knew in the back of your mind that he was going to leave eventually and we would be left with VC & Dan again.
I think a proven football man is a person w/ a good track record of handling the football operations of a team. Meaning inside and outside scouting, drafting, free agency, and the cap. If this person doesn't have 1st hand experience, then working along side of a successful franchise GM such as the Ravens, Steelers, Giants, Titans, or some other respected franchise in some high level capacity. Someone that understands today's NFL and today's player. I'd lean towards a younger GM. Someone that comes highly recommended by his peers and highly thought of by his competition.

We have a truly unique franchise w/ an owner that is willing to do anything to win. We're one of the few franchises that can say that.

VC is a personel guy, yes. I just don't think he understands how to build a team. He's had his chance.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:32 PM   #2
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I think a proven football man is a person w/ a good track record of handling the football operations of a team. Meaning inside and outside scouting, drafting, free agency, and the cap. If this person doesn't have 1st hand experience, then working along side of a successful franchise GM such as the Ravens, Steelers, Giants, Titans, or some other respected franchise in some high level capacity. Someone that understands today's NFL and today's player. I'd lean towards a younger GM. Someone that comes highly recommended by his peers and highly thought of by his competition.

We have a truly unique franchise w/ an owner that is willing to do anything to win. We're one of the few franchises that can say that.

VC is a personel guy, yes. I just don't think he understands how to build a team. He's had his chance.

I agree with you 100%.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:34 PM   #3
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

ARE (trade)
Washington
Smoot
Griffin
Springs (trade)
Moss (trade)
Jansen
Fabini
Yoder
Thrash
Doughty (trade)
Betts (trade)
McIntosh (trade) he has had an ATRCIOUS year. Yesterday was the nadir of his career.
Portis (trade)

Sign:
Jordan gross from Carolina and at least of 1 of the 3 haynesworth/vilma/karlos dansby.

Draft:
2 OL, 2 DL, LB, RB, FS (we are not using LL properly. He is not a FS) Punter (just kidding)


This presupposes that Cerrato is NO longer in charge of drafting. Otherwise, I don’t trade ANY of those guys.

What you think?
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:54 PM   #4
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

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ARE (trade)
Washington
Smoot
Griffin
Springs (trade)
Moss (trade)
Jansen
Fabini
Yoder
Thrash
Doughty (trade)
Betts (trade)
McIntosh (trade) he has had an ATRCIOUS year. Yesterday was the nadir of his career.
Portis (trade)

Sign:
Jordan gross from Carolina and at least of 1 of the 3 haynesworth/vilma/karlos dansby.

Draft:
2 OL, 2 DL, LB, RB, FS (we are not using LL properly. He is not a FS) Punter (just kidding)


This presupposes that Cerrato is NO longer in charge of drafting. Otherwise, I don’t trade ANY of those guys.

What you think?

I think thats a viable list of cuts and trades...id keep portis, because i still need a face to this franchise. Id also cut rabach and maybe even rock.
Id keep moss, and perhaps package up smauels or somebody else for a pick..
i dunno..I am starting to firmly believe the biggest problem with this franchise is the age and drop off in depth and the only way we will ever get any better is to cut ties with all the high paid, aging players brought in over the past 7 years and aquire drafts and youth that can be molded.
I stick with zorn for one more year if he fails, then i get another coach, drop campbell, drop brennan and search for a franchise qb to build around.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:59 PM   #5
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ARE (trade)
Washington
Smoot
Griffin
Springs (trade)
Moss (trade)
Jansen
Fabini
Yoder
Thrash
Doughty (trade)
Betts (trade)
McIntosh (trade) he has had an ATRCIOUS year. Yesterday was the nadir of his career.
Portis (trade)

Sign:
Jordan gross from Carolina and at least of 1 of the 3 haynesworth/vilma/karlos dansby.

Draft:
2 OL, 2 DL, LB, RB, FS (we are not using LL properly. He is not a FS) Punter (just kidding)


This presupposes that Cerrato is NO longer in charge of drafting. Otherwise, I don’t trade ANY of those guys.

What you think?
I think you need a lesson in salary cap 101. All those cuts/trades would drown us in cap hits.
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:38 PM   #6
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I think you need a lesson in salary cap 101. All those cuts/trades would drown us in cap hits.
Not that I agree with alot of it, especialy Moss. Randel El might have trade value, but I doubt the rest of the list, realy has any trade value. But, with 2010 as a no cap year it may be possible to cut anybody pro rating it over two years.
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:52 PM   #7
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

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ARE (trade)
Washington
Smoot
Griffin
Springs (trade)
Moss (trade)
Jansen
Fabini
Yoder
Thrash
Doughty (trade)
Betts (trade)
McIntosh (trade) he has had an ATRCIOUS year. Yesterday was the nadir of his career.
Portis (trade)

Sign:
Jordan gross from Carolina and at least of 1 of the 3 haynesworth/vilma/karlos dansby.

Draft:
2 OL, 2 DL, LB, RB, FS (we are not using LL properly. He is not a FS) Punter (just kidding)


This presupposes that Cerrato is NO longer in charge of drafting. Otherwise, I don’t trade ANY of those guys.

What you think?
Don't worry about Matty, just set the Salary Cap to "OFF" in Franchise Mode.
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:34 PM   #8
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Don't worry about Matty, just set the Salary Cap to "OFF" in Franchise Mode.
lol nice
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:11 PM   #9
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COACHING STAFF

I give Zorn another year to get his stuff together. I give, of all people, Gregg Williams an offer to come back as defensive coordinator if Greg Blache retires. I give Danny Smith, Stan Hixon and Steve Jackson the boot. I politely and respectfully ask Buges if he wants to retire.

PLAYERS

I'd like to cut, sign and draft more players, but I don't it's just not feasible to whack every underperforming player and sign more than 1-3 quality starters. With that in mind, the players re-signed are underlined, the players cut are in red, and the players added via the draft of free agency and in bold.

QB - Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan, Todd Collins

RB/FB - Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Rock Cartright, Mike Sellers
TE - Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Todd Yoder
WR - Santana Moss, Malcolm Kelly, Antwaan Randle El, Devin Thomas, Devry Henderson, James Thrash

LT - Chris Samuels, Stephon Heyer
LG - Pete Kendall, Chad Rinehart
C - Max Unger (3rd round), Casey Rabach, Justin Geisinger
RG - Randy Thomas, Jason Fabini
RT - Eugene Monroe (1st round), Jon Jansen

DE - Andre Carter, Demetric Evans, Chris Wilson
DT - Cornelius Griffin, Lorenzo Alexander, Ryan Boschetti
DT - Anthony Montgomery, Kedric Golston
DE - Terrell Suggs, Rob Jackson, Jason Taylor

OLB - Karlos Dansby, Alfred Fincher, Marcus Washington
MLB - London Fletcher, H.B. Blades
OLB - Rocky McIntosh, Jonathan Casillas (5th round), Khary Campell

CB - DeAngelo Hall, Justin Tryon, Justin Miller
CB - Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot, Shawn Springs
FS - Laron Landry, Kareem Moore
SS - Chris Horton, Mike Green, Reed Doughty

K - Anyone but Shaun Suisham, Shaun Suisham
P - Ryan Plackemeier
LS - Ethan Albright
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:39 PM   #10
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I'm sticking to reducing beer and hot dogs to a buck.
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:29 PM   #11
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

I think the hope of turning the Salary Cap off is our best chance of turning this thing round sooner rather than later(slim has left town). I sort of agree with most of these moves.

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Yoder
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:28 PM   #12
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

QB: Campbell, Collins, Brennan
RB/FB: Portis, Betts, Cartwright, Sellers
TE: Cooley, Davis, Yoder
WR: Moss, Randle El, Thomas, Kelly, Devery Henderson (FA)
OT: Samuels, Michael Oher (1st), Heyer, Jansen
OG: Kendall, Rinehart, Thomas, Fabini
C: Rabach, Antoine Caldwell (5th)

DE: Carter, Suggs (FA), Evans, Daniels, Jackson, Wilson
DT: Griffin, Golston, Montgomery, Alexander
LB: Fletcher, McIntosh, Washington, Blades,Tyrone McKenzie (3rd), Campbell
CB: Rogers, Hall, Bryant McFadden (FA), Smoot, Tryon
S: Landry, Horton, Moore, Yeremiah Bell (FA)

K: Shayne Graham (FA)
P: Plackemeier
LS: Albright
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:41 PM   #13
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Pay Parcells double!
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:08 AM   #14
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1. I would bring in someone who values building through the draft to run personnel under Vinnie and transition Vinnie into an operational role.
2. I would make sure to retain the remaining draft picks I have for 2009 and look very seriously at bolstering these units: defensive end, offensive tackle, linebacker.
3. I would find a way to bring in one blue chip pass rushing defensive player - either Peppers or Suggs if the price is not astronomical. If the price tag is too high with those guys I'd target a second-tier young DE like Canty or Udeze.
4. I would consider bringing in a young linebacker who could play inside or out. Dansby would be ideal.
5. I would also target a young interior offensive lineman in free agency to provide additional depth.
6. I would offer several veterans the option to renegotiate at a lower annual salary: Griffin, Springs, Washington, Taylor.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:36 AM   #15
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From PK's MMQB:

No wonder Tennessee wins every year. The Titans have the best defensive depth in recent NFL history. No Albert Haynesworth 'til the playoffs? No Kyle Vanden Bosch 'til the playoffs? No worries! We'll just trot out a second-round pick from Eastern Michigan, Jason Jones, to get 3.5 sacks and force three fumbles in a game for AFC home-field advantage through the playoffs. We'll just start a free-agent from UCLA who didn't even play football in 2007, Dave Ball, for Vanden Bosch, rotate him with Jacob Ford and get four quarterback hits out of them. And when Jevon Kearse, the left end, goes down early in the second half, we'll throw a fourth-round pick from Winston-Salem State, William Hayes, in the game, and he'll get a sack of Ben Roethlisberger, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery.

Tennessee 31, Pittsburgh 14. The score is surprising enough, seeing that the Steelers had been playing like the '65 Packers. But it's who the Titans won with. For much of the second half, this was their six-man rotation on the defensive line:

William Hayes, Tony Brown, Jason Jones, Dave Ball, Jacob Ford, Amon Gordon.

Fourth-round rookie, 2006 street free-agent, second-round rookie, 2008 street free-agent, sixth-round pick in 2007, practice-squad addition last week.

"First of all, these players are good, solid NFL players,'' defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz said over the phone afterward. "Second, we have a great defensive line coach, Jim Washburn, who gets them ready to play, no excuses. And our GM, Mike Reinfeldt, doesn't get enough credit for knowing what we do on defense and going out and getting players who fit what we do. We get injuries, and we've got players to plug in -- and if you don't have that in the NFL today, you're not going to win.

"In our defense, we don't blitz much, maybe 15, 16 percent of the time. So the defensive linemen have some freedom to play their games, instead of worrying that there's going to be a blitzer coming through the gap to their right so they've got to avoid going in that direction. When you don't blitz, the defensive ends can use all their skills.''

Schwartz is a thinking man's coordinator. He's not afraid of relying on inexperienced players to get pressure because he knows his secondary can cover. He knew entering Sunday's game that he could get a few pile-pushing rushes from a 305-pound practice player, Gordon, who pressured Roethlisberger into one of his sacks and fumbles. "Roethlisberger was holding the ball so long because of the superb coverage in our back end,'' said Schwartz. "That allowed our front to get to him.''

Winning home-field, Schwartz said, is a nice reward. But he thought it was more important to beat a great team, wherever the game was player and whatever it meant for January football. "Coach Fisher told the team this was all about being battle-tested,'' said Schwartz. "We'd rather play at home, obviously, in January, but it doesn't tilt the field totally in your favor. What helps is knowing how we can play when we come up against a really good team like Pittsburgh.''

You model after this! Good coaching, drafting, a plan in place that starts from the top. Yes, I have just the slightest man crush on Jim Schwartz. He'll be a HC soon. Young, smart, 8 years at Tenn under perhaps the best coach in football. That would make too much sense if we were to hire him. It wouldn't matter as long as VC is around though.
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