Another Vinny Special: Deangelo Hall

Trample the Elderly · 09-15-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do have something nice to say about Hall, and that's the fact that he's pretty good at not getting beat deep. Even the best receivers in the league can't really get behind him.

Due to this, bad quarterbacks do struggle a LOT against DeAngelo Hall. Not being able to complete a pass against him is a pretty good indication that a quarterback doesn't have "the goods".

Next 5 weeks, the best quarterback we face is Byron Leftwich, assuming he's healthy. Delhomme, Cassel, Bulger, and Stafford all sort of suck in their own ways.

You are talking about DeAngello Hall right?

GTripp0012 · 09-15-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You are talking about DeAngello Hall right?

Yeah. I did a TD/INT ratio for corners, and Hall actually grades out pretty well. But if you do TD + First Downs/INT rate, just a small adjustment, he's one of the worst in the league.

Any quarterback that can throw in rhythm can beat him. Those who aren't rhythm passers are at a major disadvantage.

SmootSmack · 09-15-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah. I did a TD/INT ratio for corners, and Hall actually grades out pretty well. But if you do TD + First Downs/INT rate, just a small adjustment, he's one of the worst in the league.

Any quarterback that can throw in rhythm can beat him. Those who aren't rhythm passers are at a major disadvantage.

So...would you say the rhythm is gonna get him?

skinsfan69 · 09-15-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do have something nice to say about Hall, and that's the fact that he's pretty good at not getting beat deep. Even the best receivers in the league can't really get behind him.

Due to this, bad quarterbacks do struggle a LOT against DeAngelo Hall. Not being able to complete a pass against him is a pretty good indication that a quarterback doesn't have "the goods".

Next 5 weeks, the best quarterback we face is Byron Leftwich, assuming he's healthy. Delhomme, Cassel, Bulger, and Stafford all sort of suck in their own ways.

I don't think Bulger sucks. He's a capable NFL QB if he's got good players around him. He's just on a bad team. Delhomme? He sucks. Real bad.

GTripp0012 · 09-15-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think Bulger sucks. He's a capable NFL QB if he's got good players around him. He's just on a bad team. Delhomme? He sucks. Real bad.

Bulger is Roethlisberger without the ability to break tackles or otherwise extend the play. In other words, he plays to the quality of the defense.

skinsfan69 · 09-15-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Bulger is Roethlisberger without the ability to break tackles or otherwise extend the play. In other words, he plays to the quality of the defense.

Well we won't see Bulger improvise. But he's shown that if he's got people around him he can play at a high level. But he's certainly not going to carry an offense. I'd say he's an average NFL QB that's playing on a bad team. On a side note I think Steven Jackson is one of the best backs in the league but he's stuck in STL. Put him on Minn and you might see him put up numbers like AP does.

GTripp0012 · 09-15-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well we won't see Bulger improvise. But he's shown that if he's got people around him he can play at a high level. But he's certainly not going to carry an offense. I'd say he's an average NFL QB that's playing on a bad team. On a side note I think Steven Jackson is one of the best backs in the league but he's stuck in STL. Put him on Minn and you might see him put up numbers like AP does.

That's probably about right.

Jackson is pretty great, and especially effective in the passing game.

skinsfan69 · 09-15-2009, 11:07 AM

Everyone needs to give Hall a few weeks. He played a bad game. It's not the end of the world. I wouldn't have given him all that money but let's see how he plays the next few weeks. Let's hope he rebounds.

redsk1 · 09-21-2009, 02:24 PM

Not a great game again by DeAngelo Hall. Beat for a TD. Had a few balls caught on him again. Not a terrible game but not a very good one either for a "50 Million Dollar CB." Or whatever he got.

Ruhskins · 09-21-2009, 02:50 PM

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Not a great game again by DeAngelo Hall. Beat for a TD. Had a few balls caught on him again. Not a terrible game but not a very good one either for a "50 Million Dollar CB." Or whatever he got.

And not a great game by Rogers who is supposed to be playing for a contract extension or free agency money. I'm disappointed with these two, I thought they'd be a good CB tandem.

Is it just me or were the DBs giving the WRs a lot of room again?

redsk1 · 09-21-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And not a great game by Rogers who is supposed to be playing for a contract extension or free agency money. I'm disappointed with these two, I thought they'd be a good CB tandem.

Is it just me or were the DBs giving the WRs a lot of room again?

They are giving a TON of room to virtually unknown WR's like the ones yesterday.

09-15-2009, 11:07 AM	#8
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,584	Re: Another Vinny Special: Deangelo Hall Everyone needs to give Hall a few weeks. He played a bad game. It's not the end of the world. I wouldn't have given him all that money but let's see how he plays the next few weeks. Let's hope he rebounds.

09-21-2009, 02:24 PM	#9
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Another Vinny Special: Deangelo Hall Not a great game again by DeAngelo Hall. Beat for a TD. Had a few balls caught on him again. Not a terrible game but not a very good one either for a "50 Million Dollar CB." Or whatever he got.

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