Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints)

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by bigmarley4

I'd give a mini smack down on some obnoxious bandwagon Saints fans at the game. I've never seen any group of fans with such crisp, bright brand new jerseys and hats that looked like they just came out of the box. I'd didn't see a single old-school jersey the entire day. Most were DC area people who would have been cheering for Skins last year...

I was at the game as well, and did see a large number of Saints "fans". My favorite was the Archie Manning jersey I saw on a woman no older than 20. The lettering of Manning was oversized and looked awful, and I can't find it on the Intrawebs to show (I saw a similar Shockey jersey). But everything did look fresh, clean and straight out of the wrapper. The cackles of Who Dat was pretty annoying as well. To each their own. My wife and I had a great time, save from the loss, or at least the way we lost.

On to the smackdowns. While I'm not going to pin the loss 100% on Suisham, he has to make that kick. Period. High snap or not, bad hold or not, it's a 23 yard kick. It's a chip shot, essentially an extra point. Suisham has now missed 3 gut check kicks down the stretch that have absolutely murdered any momentum the team had. I've been a supporter of him since he got to DC, but I can no longer support him. Might as well give someone else a chance from here on out. At worst, it's a warm body and you can go in a different direction at year's end. At best, you have someone you can go into next year with.

Out of the 4 reviews that they did yesterday, 1 of them finished in less than 90 seconds, which is what I thought was the time limit. Then again, the booth was on the field in front of me (I was in Section 203) so I'm not sure how much lollygagging the referee was doing. Just seemed like forever...almost seemed to me that they were trying to keep the Saints record perfect. But that's a conspiracy theory for another time.

The video screens at FedEx need to be replaced. The review that stood with Meachem (I think) on the sidelines looked like his 2nd foot never got dragged before being out of bounds, so the entire stadium was shocked when it didn't get overturned. Snyder has the money, put some damn new boards in.

Other than that, the Skins played a pretty solid game yesterday, and aside from the flukes, they outplayed the Saints, so bravo to them. However, bad teams find ways to lose, and they certainly did that yesterday.

Oh, one more thing. Landry is awful. The Skins need to find a free safety to replace him and either put him back to strong safety or bulk him up to play linebacker.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

The Saints did have 3 defensive backs out for the game but yes DT had an awesome performance. You could see his confidence building every play he made. I'm very excited for his future here.

these were he same backs that shut down randy moss wes welker and tom brady

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

I was at the game as well, and did see a large number of Saints "fans". My favorite was the Archie Manning jersey I saw on a woman no older than 20. The lettering of Manning was oversized and looked awful, and I can't find it on the Intrawebs to show (I saw a similar Shockey jersey). But everything did look fresh, clean and straight out of the wrapper. The cackles of Who Dat was pretty annoying as well. To each their own. My wife and I had a great time, save from the loss, or at least the way we lost.

On to the smackdowns. While I'm not going to pin the loss 100% on Suisham, he has to make that kick. Period. High snap or not, bad hold or not, it's a 23 yard kick. It's a chip shot, essentially an extra point. Suisham has now missed 3 gut check kicks down the stretch that have absolutely murdered any momentum the team had. I've been a supporter of him since he got to DC, but I can no longer support him. Might as well give someone else a chance from here on out. At worst, it's a warm body and you can go in a different direction at year's end. At best, you have someone you can go into next year with.

Out of the 4 reviews that they did yesterday, 1 of them finished in less than 90 seconds, which is what I thought was the time limit. Then again, the booth was on the field in front of me (I was in Section 203) so I'm not sure how much lollygagging the referee was doing. Just seemed like forever...almost seemed to me that they were trying to keep the Saints record perfect. But that's a conspiracy theory for another time.

The video screens at FedEx need to be replaced. The review that stood with Meachem (I think) on the sidelines looked like his 2nd foot never got dragged before being out of bounds, so the entire stadium was shocked when it didn't get overturned. Snyder has the money, put some damn new boards in.

Other than that, the Skins played a pretty solid game yesterday, and aside from the flukes, they outplayed the Saints, so bravo to them. However, bad teams find ways to lose, and they certainly did that yesterday.

Oh, one more thing. Landry is awful. The Skins need to find a free safety to replace him and either put him back to strong safety or bulk him up to play linebacker.

Seeing it on TV it was crystal clear that he dragged his foot, I thought the crowd reaction was really odd, guess that explains it.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seeing it on TV it was crystal clear that he dragged his foot, I thought the crowd reaction was really odd, guess that explains it.

yeah it definitly looked like he only got one foot in those sorry ass dot matrix screens are soo freaking out dated. not to mention the stupid ass acorebord with the misletoe in the top corner with snow on the redskins at the bottom. only thing snyder cares about is more seasting in there which was atleast half empty in the club level

[Hog1]

Listening to Doc Walker a minute ago. He says "for the first time this year, we have a team!" "A TEAM.........They look like they just came out of Carlisle"
He's right. The mix of guys we have on the field Don't think they suck. They apparently did not buy in to unbeatable New Orleans.
I hope this stuff is not lost on the coaching staff and FO. Some of these guys have earned the right to be there and some of our long term vets may have been served notice.
HTTR

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seeing it on TV it was crystal clear that he dragged his foot, I thought the crowd reaction was really odd, guess that explains it.

The stadium erupted when they pulled the replay up (Quite quickly, the quickest of any of the replays on the day) and it looked to us that he never got the 2nd foot in bounds. There were 2 Saints fans sitting 2 rows in front of me with their heads hanging because they thought it was going to be overturned.

I do remember another smack down. The field conditions were terrible. Almost like they didn't put the tarp down on Friday and let it snow and ice all over the field on Saturday to come up with less than stellar field conditions for a dome team coming to town on Sunday. I guess that's another conspiracy theory for another time as well...

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

The stadium erupted when they pulled the replay up (Quite quickly, the quickest of any of the replays on the day) and it looked to us that he never got the 2nd foot in bounds. There were 2 Saints fans sitting 2 rows in front of me with their heads hanging because they thought it was going to be overturned.

I do remember another smack down. The field conditions were terrible. Almost like they didn't put the tarp down on Friday and let it snow and ice all over the field on Saturday to come up with less than stellar field conditions for a dome team coming to town on Sunday. I guess that's another conspiracy theory for another time as well...

it was more like god awful, it was really shitty right by the redskins sideline, from the 40 to the 20, it was like a mud pit there, the refs almost fell down when they tried to go to the booth. there is no way that section of the feild was covered at all

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

The field conditions were terrible. Almost like they didn't put the tarp down on Friday and let it snow and ice all over the field on Saturday to come up with less than stellar field conditions for a dome team coming to town on Sunday. I guess that's another conspiracy theory for another time as well...

Thats what you call home field advantage. I read somewhere that Coach Gibbs would let the field go uncut to slow down a high powered offense. So letting the field go uncovered and getting sloppy is fine with me. The Saints are used to a perfect field so you have to take the advantage if it is given to you.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Thats what you call home field advantage. I read somewhere that Coach Gibbs would let the field go uncut to slow down a high powered offense. So letting the field go uncovered and getting sloppy is fine with me. The Saints are used to a perfect field so you have to take the advantage if it is given to you.

I can see keeping the grass high, but a sloppy field helps no one. And besides, what did Brees throw for yesterday? I'm gonna take a stab and say it really didn't benefit the Redskins, so why do it? Why risk the health of your players? Kinda like having a big concert on the field in the middle of the season...

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

What I don't get is that on that punt that hit a Redskin and was recovered by a Saint....the Saint that recovered it had just come from OUT OF BOUNDS.

I thought it was a penalty to TOUCH THE BALL FIRST when you go out of bounds?

Bozzy:

He was not the first guy to touch the ball. The Skins player who was hit by the punt touched it first after the Saints' player had re-established himself on the field of play.


BTW, on the replay, there should have been a flag on one of the Skins for blocking that Saints' player while he was still out of bounds. Flag never came out...

[sportscurmudgeon]

A couple of points here:


1. Mike Williams should be allowed to play guard but should never be allowed to play tackle. He played well yesterday. He has shown in several games that he cannot play OT. Of course, Heyer and Jones have also shown that they can't play OT very well...


2. Go look at the replays of the final minutes of regulation time yesterday. After Haynesworth left the field with an injury, he was back in the game on the Saints' final drive. Either he was so injured that he should not have been on the field or he just didn't feel like trying at the end of the game. Watch him - - not the ball - - when you see the replays. He was walking toward the QB and barely made contact with the OL. What's up with that??? :confused:


3. The saying on Wall Street is that one time is an occurrence, twice is a coincidence and three times is a trend. Three weeks in a row, the Redskins defense gave up the ghost when it needed a stop or a takeaway. There are lots of other circumstances that set up those situations but this week the Skins led by a TD with 2:00 to play and the Saints were 80 yards away with no timeouts. :vomit:


4. When Sherm Lewis showed up as "another pair of eyes", the Skins were 2-4. Since he has been here, the Skins are 1-5. But the offense has gotten better... Fill in the blanks here. :frusty:


5. Fred Davis picked up a blitz in the 2nd quarter. That may be a first...

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

I can see keeping the grass high, but a sloppy field helps no one. And besides, what did Brees throw for yesterday? I'm gonna take a stab and say it really didn't benefit the Redskins, so why do it? Why risk the health of your players? Kinda like having a big concert on the field in the middle of the season...

The only thing I can think of is Zorn seen the way N.O. torched The Pats and he wanted to throw their timing off. Who is to say it worked or didn't. But im glad to see we havn't just thrown the towel in this year.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

2. Go look at the replays of the final minutes of regulation time yesterday. After Haynesworth left the field with an injury, he was back in the game on the Saints' final drive. Either he was so injured that he should not have been on the field or he just didn't feel like trying at the end of the game. Watch him - - not the ball - - when you see the replays. He was walking toward the QB and barely made contact with the OL. What's up with that??? :confused:

I did watch him a few times yesterday, and on more than one occasion, he took a play off as you describe. And this was before his "injury" in the 4th quarter. It's blatantly obvious he takes plays off. When Golston went down, he went to one knee immediately to the point where one of the trainers was huddled around him and stayed there until Golston was off the field. However, it's a catch-22 since when he's in there, he draws doubles and triples which have allowed the rest of the D line the ability to rush.

I'm really not 100% sure what to think of it. Obviously I would want him on point 100% of the time, but at the same time, his disruptive nature is also blatantly obvious (Without AH, the rush defense against the Cowboys: 153 yards, 0 TDs; against the Eagles: 123 yards, 1 TD; against the Saints with AH: 55 yards, 0 TDs). The Saints may have a great pass offense, but their rush offense ranks 5th in the NFL (and that includes yesterday's horrific showing).

[SmootSmack]

I guess you could go back to the sloppy field conditions maybe and see that Haynesworth just rolled on his ankle funny. Still, that was a knock on him in Tennessee. Not that he fakes being hurt but that he's not as "tough" as he should be. Worst part about that was forcing us to take a timeout and stop the clock.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I guess you could go back to the sloppy field conditions maybe and see that Haynesworth just rolled on his ankle funny. Still, that was a knock on him in Tennessee. Not that he fakes being hurt but that he's not as "tough" as he should be. Worst part about that was forcing us to take a timeout and stop the clock.

exactly the saints had about 3 minutes there to come up with a game plan for the drive rather than having the time continue to run, if he was good enough to come back in and play later he should have been able to scurry off the feild