Give Colt Brennan a shot with the 1st team offense in 2010

[CultBrennan59]

I say we sign Chris Simms and let our QB's for '10 be JC, Colt, and Simms. Then next year we get Locker. Save our later picks from getting a QB and get more OLineman or players for the 3-4.

[Supermanx5]

If you notice one thing about Colt Brennan, it is his accuracy. I remember watching a few games with Colt playing and the announcers would always mention how accurate he was. Also, if you don't remember Colt won in the QB challenge for accuracy against guys like Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. I remember seeing a video on the redmond blog of colt throwing the ball at the field goal post and was hitting it everytime from a pretty long distance.

He obviously has the accuracy, confidence, and leadership skills. Just wonder if he is good at treading defenses and making quick decisions.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by Supermanx5

If you notice one thing about Colt Brennan, it is his accuracy. I remember watching a few games with Colt playing and the announcers would always mention how accurate he was. Also, if you don't remember Colt won in the QB challenge for accuracy against guys like Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. I remember seeing a video on the redmond blog of colt throwing the ball at the field goal post and was hitting it everytime from a pretty long distance.

He obviously has the accuracy, confidence, and leadership skills. Just wonder if he is good at treading defenses and making quick decisions.

R&S QB's -the good ones anyways-are usually pretty good at reading defenses. They look at the defense pre and post snap and have to quickly decide which of the 5 defensive categories that it falls in--Cover 0,2,3 man off,Quarters-, this will tell the QB what the wr's are going to do. The R&S is not a free for all where each wr is running to get open like some like to think. Each play a wr can have anywhere from 1 to 3-4 different breaks on his assigned route depending on how the coverage changes,there are even secondary routes that the wrs will switch to when the QB pump fakes. imo all of this would be difficult with 2 wr's, let alone 4. Bottomline,Colt did well in this offense because he is very accurate,can read defenses very well and he can improvise. His 70% completions rate is impressive no matter who you play at any level. And ill say it again, he did in 3 yrs what Chang did in 5. Im pulling for the guy,id like to see him get a shot so we can see for sure what he can do. If he tanks then cut him and ill admit i was wrong but i think the kid can play.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

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R&S QB's -the good ones anyways-are usually pretty good at reading defenses. They look at the defense pre and post snap and have to quickly decide which of the 5 defensive categories that it falls in--Cover 0,2,3 man off,Quarters-, this will tell the QB what the wr's are going to do. The R&S is not a free for all where each wr is running to get open like some like to think. Each play a wr can have anywhere from 1 to 3-4 different breaks on his assigned route depending on how the coverage changes,there are even secondary routes that the wrs will switch to when the QB pump fakes. imo all of this would be difficult with 2 wr's, let alone 4. Bottomline,Colt did well in this offense because he is very accurate,can read defenses very well and he can improvise. His 70% completions rate is impressive no matter who you play at any level. And ill say it again, he did in 3 yrs what Chang did in 5. Im pulling for the guy,id like to see him get a shot so we can see for sure what he can do. If he tanks then cut him and ill admit i was wrong but i think the kid can play.

I would like if he produced, i don't want us to spend our 4th on a QB would rather trade down/back pick up more picks and go OL, OL fill in rest.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

I would like if he produced, i don't want us to spend our 4th on a QB would rather trade down/back pick up more picks and go OL, OL fill in rest.

True, QB isnt the biggest issue right now but new HC's usually like to bring in their own guy to groom. We'll see.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

True, QB isnt the biggest issue right now but new HC's usually like to bring in their own guy to groom. We'll see.

Just for the record i'm a JC supporter but if we another QB on the roster that can unseat JC so be it i don't see it but so be it ( now say that three times fast).

[GusFrerotte]

Brennan is a goner. Grossman and now probably Bradford/Clausen only signals the inevitable. Kid was going to be Zorn's pet project. I guess Mike wants his own pet project.

[joethiesmanfan]

It's a competition, Campbell should win if he is starter material over Rex he straight.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

It's a competition, Campbell should win if he is starter material over Rex he straight.

come again??

[jsarno]

I was really hoping to sign Bradford, and let Colt be #2, and eventually take over the starting job (since Campbell will likely lose the starting job), but then we sign Rex Grossman? Seriously? We got rid of Collins because of no upside (which I agreed with) then we sign Grossman, with less of an upside than Collins? HUH?
Johnson and Grossman are a couple of the dumbest signings this season...thankfully we aren't paying them much.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I was really hoping to sign Bradford, and let Colt be #2, and eventually take over the starting job (since Campbell will likely lose the starting job), but then we sign Rex Grossman? Seriously? We got rid of Collins because of no upside (which I agreed with) then we sign Grossman, with less of an upside than Collins? HUH?
Johnson and Grossman are a couple of the dumbest signings this season...thankfully we aren't paying them much.

If you honestly have more faith in Brennan than Grossman at this point I want to know who signs your prescriptions.

Grossman does have more upside than Collins. Collins' career is trending down if it isn't over. Grossman is working for another opportunity.

Did Grossman screw up one of your fantasy teams or something? (He did that to one of mine)

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

If you honestly have more faith in Brennan than Grossman at this point I want to know who signs your prescriptions.

Grossman does have more upside than Collins. Collins' career is trending down if it isn't over. Grossman is working for another opportunity.

Did Grossman screw up one of your fantasy teams or something? (He did that to one of mine)

LOL, no. It's not that I have more faith in Brennan over Grossman, it's that Grossman had his shot and did nothing to deserve another one. Colt has never had a shot and he deserves one. Like I said, I agreed with letting Collins go, but why sign a guy that has had his shot and didn't perform well in doing it?
Here is my problem, I can totally get on board with "rebuilding" and allowing a couple young guys (ie: colt and bradford for instance) duke it out when campbell fails, but I can not agree with going into this season with an inconsistant Campbell under center and the guy backing him up being a lot worse with no real upside unless you consider hope an upside. I'd rather pin my hopes on "potential" than just settling for a guy that isn't going anywhere.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by jsarno

LOL, no. It's not that I have more faith in Brennan over Grossman, it's that Grossman had his shot and did nothing to deserve another one. Colt has never had a shot and he deserves one. Like I said, I agreed with letting Collins go, but why sign a guy that has had his shot and didn't perform well in doing it?
Here is my problem, I can totally get on board with "rebuilding" and allowing a couple young guys (ie: colt and bradford for instance) duke it out when campbell fails, but I can not agree with going into this season with an inconsistant Campbell under center and the guy backing him up being a lot worse with no real upside unless you consider hope an upside. I'd rather pin my hopes on "potential" than just settling for a guy that isn't going anywhere.

I view this year as a transition year with potential. No one will argue that Campbell isn't inconsistent, but if he had a Pro-Bowl consideration type season next year would anyone really be shocked? I wouldn't, he was in the MVP consideration after we were 6-2.

As far as Grossman, I think he has potential too. Especially since he is going to be in the system that he was in last year. If he beat out Campbell, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it could be argued that Grossman actually has a leg up right now. Give them the benefit of the doubt, I guarantee Kyle S. had a lot to do with that signing.

I would much rather have Rex over Collins. Colt isn't out of the picture yet. He may have to beat someone out, but he will get a chance.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I view this year as a transition year with potential. No one will argue that Campbell isn't inconsistent, but if he had a Pro-Bowl consideration type season next year would anyone really be shocked? I wouldn't, he was in the MVP consideration after we were 6-2.

It would surprise me to see him the MVP race. A lot actually. Anyone can play well for a stretch, but for a whole season??? It's too hard to perform well all season long, only the really good can do that, and Campbell is not really good. Campbell would be a decent back up IMO.

As far as Grossman, I think he has potential too. Especially since he is going to be in the system that he was in last year. If he beat out Campbell, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it could be argued that Grossman actually has a leg up right now. Give them the benefit of the doubt, I guarantee Kyle S. had a lot to do with that signing.

I can respect the opinion that Grossman has potential, I just don't agree.

I would much rather have Rex over Collins.

I just don't want either of them.

Colt isn't out of the picture yet. He may have to beat someone out, but he will get a chance.

Well, if we sign Bradford, there is no room for Colt.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I view this year as a transition year with potential. No one will argue that Campbell isn't inconsistent, but if he had a Pro-Bowl consideration type season next year would anyone really be shocked? I wouldn't, he was in the MVP consideration after we were 6-2.

As far as Grossman, I think he has potential too. Especially since he is going to be in the system that he was in last year. If he beat out Campbell, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it could be argued that Grossman actually has a leg up right now. Give them the benefit of the doubt, I guarantee Kyle S. had a lot to do with that signing.

I would much rather have Rex over Collins. Colt isn't out of the picture yet. He may have to beat someone out, but he will get a chance.

Nice post. Grossman can't be written off yet for a couple reasons. Chicago had exactly what great offensive weapons when Grossman was the starter? Let's be honest they won on their defense and then had a very amazing special teams unit. Grossman had an above average running game to rely on typically and very little talent to work w/ otherwise. He forced things way too often, and when you force things you see more turnovers. Certainly he's flat stunk in stretches, but let's not pretend like he had a lot to work w/ when he was on the field.

I hope it's not the case Shanny has already decided one way or another on Colt Brennan. Of the three QBs on the roster my intuition is he has the most upside...like he was quoted saying recently it's gonna take someone at this level giving him the kind of shot he got in Hawaii.