The never ending Jason Campbell player haters ball

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yep Auburn, another piss poor SEC school.

lol being a LSU fan I am with u there

[SirClintonPortis]

Hey, surely fans know more than coaches on opposing teams for about telegraphing plays and holding the ball too long?

"Titans defensive tackle Jason Jones told Tennessee reporters Campbell was telegraphing on passing plays by leaning back before the snap."

"And Titans defensive coordinator Chuck Cecil said Campbell was holding the ball too long in the pocket."

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Hey, surely fans know more than coaches on opposing teams for about telegraphing plays and holding the ball too long?


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Oh man those posts bring back memories...

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Oh man those posts bring back memories...

Fascinating how two fan-bases have the exact same arguments. It is like friggin' Groundhog day.

That pretty much seals the age-old argument for me.

[Dirtbag59]

In looking back on all the QB's we tried to acquire to replace Campbell I think that talent wise Cutler is much better. However after considering the fact that we came up with a franchise LT and pass rusher as well as McNabb it's hard to argue against the string of events that caused us to loose out on the Cutler sweepstakes.

Sanchez was another bullet not because of the cost, but more so because of the fact that he seems to suffer from Dilfer-itis. Though that might be a product of playing under Rex Ryan who ironically was on a Super Bowl winning team with Dilfer.

Anyway it would seem to me that had Cutler been here under Shanahan he would have been successful. However considering the cost of two guys that might end up being the best in franchise history at their respective positions it's hard not to breathe a sigh of relief.

The only proposed trade of the Cerrato era that might have worked out for us would have been Ochocinco. And I say that because instead of Kelly, Davis, Thomas (of which Kelly and Thomas have yet to prove to be worthy of their draft status) we would have been better off today with Ocho. On top of that the conditional 3rd round would have likely remained a conditional third rounder after seeing the year he had in 2008.

Anyway hindsight is 20/20.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

In looking back on all the QB's we tried to acquire to replace Campbell I think that talent wise Cutler is much better. However after considering the fact that we came up with a franchise LT and pass rusher as well as McNabb it's hard to argue against the string of events that caused us to loose out on the Cutler sweepstakes.

Sanchez was another bullet not because of the cost, but more so because of the fact that he seems to suffer from Dilfer-itis. Though that might be a product of playing under Rex Ryan who ironically was on a Super Bowl winning team with Dilfer.

Anyway it would seem to me that had Cutler been here under Shanahan he would have been successful. However considering the cost of two guys that might end up being the best in franchise history at their respective positions it's hard not to breathe a sigh of relief.

The only proposed trade of the Cerrato era that might have worked out for us would have been Ochocinco. And I say that because instead of Kelly, Davis, Thomas (of which Kelly and Thomas have yet to prove to be worthy of their draft status) we would have been better off today with Ocho. On top of that the conditional 3rd round would have likely remained a conditional third rounder after seeing the year he had in 2008.

Anyway hindsight is 20/20.

It's an interesting realization considering that that trade rumor was so universally despised compared to the others, and while the whole process reeks of outcome bias, I'd have to agree with you. We would have done more with Ochocinco here than either Thomas or Davis. And I like Davis.

[CultBrennan59]

The thing about Sunday nights game is the whole time I was thinking "...And if we had Campbell still, and not McNabb, we MIGHT of been lucky to lose the game by 11." He probably would have fumbled, thrown a pick 5 yards past the line of scrimmage, or did short dump offs on 3 & 8 for a 6 yard gain. Those fades in the endzone to Armstrong wouldn't have happened because Shanahan would have no faith in Campbell getting the ball there.

[#56fanatic]

its isn't like Campbell jumped into a better situation either. The lineman there are subject at best. Plus, he was playing the Titans who's D has been pretty damn good over the years. He didn't play well at all last week, but lets give it more than 1 week to determine if he is going to help the Raiders. I hope he gets better and the Raiders are actually better this year. The NFL is a better league when the Raiders matter. They just have that "it" factor people want to see, at least me anyway.

[aceinthehouse]

Put JC on the Saints and they don't win 8 games...

..and I think the Saints have the most explosive offense in the NFL with great speed as well.

Did I hear the stat right in that raiders/titans game?
Not one of Campbell's passes were caught by a Wide Receiver? All were TE's and or RB's..
Is this accurate?

I'd rather have Heath Shuler and I'm not kidding...

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by aceinthehouse

Put JC on the Saints and they don't win 8 games...

..and I think the Saints have the most explosive offense in the NFL with great speed as well.

Did I hear the stat right in that raiders/titans game?
Not one of Campbell's passes were caught by a Wide Receiver? All were TE's and or RB's..
Is this accurate?

I'd rather have Heath Shuler and I'm not kidding...

So what do you get out of this? That's just my question to all these people that get a boner from pointing out this guy's deficiencies.

Yes, there were some people that swore up and down that he was a good QB under the wrong circumstances/bad o-line/bad coach, etc., etc., etc. And I think they were wrong.

But what do you get out of showing that a mediocre QB is not doing well in one of the worst teams in the league? That still doesn't change the fact that...

- We had an old/injury prone/terrible offensive line last year (and prob the year before)
- We had one of the worst GMs (second only to Matt Millen probably) making football personnel moves
- We had a coach that was WAYYY over his head, who got his balls cutoff halfway through the season
- And we had a bend but don't break defense that was not good enough to carry a lousy offense.

So tell me, what exactly do you get out of stating the obvious? It doesn't take a genius to predict that a mediocre QB will do terrible in a terrible team. Please explain this, because I don't understand the logic. Other than people just wanting to bitch about one player from a bunch of terrible players/things that we had last year (remember we release 10 of them in the offseason).

[MonkFan4Life]

Well I hope he continues to throw the ball to Darren McFadden because he's on my Fantasy Team. I could use the receptions

[tryfuhl]

eventually we'll stop caring about Campbell

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

eventually we'll stop caring about Campbell

How long was the mourning period for Ramsey? I imagine that Campbell's will be slightly longer.

[tryfuhl]

hell I don't know.. I was on ES for that and don't recall

maybe in a few years we'll get a JasonCampbell like we have a Gus

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

hell I don't know.. I was on ES for that and don't recall

maybe in a few years we'll get a JasonCampbell like we have a Gus