Pointing at the other bench (The Jets/Pats Saga)

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Good lord, I hope any Redskin coach never acts like Rex Bacondonut Ryan. The guy is a buffoon. I'd be embarrassed to a have a slob like that wear burgundy and gold.

The Jet fans are not embarrassed. They are happy and celebrating. They are a successful team.
Football fans that are putting down Rex Ryan and the Jet players for being loud and over the top are just envious of the Jets and have nothing better than to cling to the only negative thing they can find.
Take your Mister Rogers coach and losing ways some where else. Give me what the Jets have, a winning team and players that want to work hard for their coach.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The Jet fans are not embarrassed.

It takes a lot to embarrass someone from Jersey, just saying.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The Jet fans are not embarrassed. They are happy and celebrating. They are a successful team.
Football fans that are putting down Rex Ryan and the Jet players for being loud and over the top are just envious of the Jets and have nothing better than to cling to the only negative thing they can find.
Take your Mister Rogers coach and losing ways some where else. Give me what the Jets have, a winning team and players that want to work hard for their coach.

I have to disagree. I think that people will look the other way on poor attitude and behavior in exchange for winning is a sad commentary on our society. You can be a great coach without being rude and condoning poor behavior.

[MTK]

all this Rex Ryan hating comes off as sour grapes.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I have to disagree. I think that people will look the other way on poor attitude and behavior in exchange for winning is a sad commentary on our society. You can be a great coach without being rude and condoning poor behavior.

A sad commentary on our society? Last time I checked football is still a sport...right? Some rivalry, celebration, smack talk and drama makes for good sports.
What happened in Arizona and the needless loss of innocent lives is a sad commentary on our society...not smack talk in a football game.
Matty is right this is sour grapes.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

A sad commentary on our society? Last time I checked football is still a sport...right? Some rivalry, celebration, smack talk and drama makes for good sports.
What happened in Arizona and the needless loss of innocent lives is a sad commentary on our society...not smack talk in a football game.
Matty is right this is sour grapes.

I second that and third Matty's post!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Shanahan, are you watching?
My hat is off to Rex Ryan. He knows how to motivate his troops.
Yes, he can be a rather disgusting human being at times, but his relationship with his players comes first and it is their key formula to winning.
What really impressed me was in an interview that was aired before todays game, Ryan took 100% responsibility for the early season blow out loss to the Patriots. He went on to say, 'when we lose it is always my fault and the other coaches for not preparing the players and game plan correctly.' He said it is never the players fault. Shanny? Thrown anyone else under the bus lately for your teams failures? Shanny look up the word team.
I realize Rex Ryan is not being 100% honest, but it is the message that this sends to his players that is worth its weight in gold and wins on the football field.
Playing football at this level is a lot like going to war. Players are putting their health, careers and life on the line and it can be a very physically painful sport to play. Rex Ryan seems to recognize this and backs his players. His players appreciate it and love to play for him at a very high level... most of the time.

Then in the post game news conference he was clear that the smack talking coming from his team this week was based on his players confidence and not being afraid of the big bad Patriots. That in fact he and his players really respect the Patriots.

My final observation: The top of the AFC is much better then the top of the NFC. Not just slightly, but much better.

Rex is so damn annoying. But I have to agree with you. And the more I watch/listen to this clown the more I think he's EXACTLY what the Redskins need. Someone that can communicate and motivate players, plus instill condidence in an organization that clearly needs it. And that is what he did to the Jets cause they weren't shit until he got there. He is what I call a true players coach and you can CLEARLY tell his guys love to play for him. He's totally 100% himself. Not to mention he's a hell of a football coach.

[MTK]

Whether you like him or not the guy is a heck of a football coach.

That said he's just one of many styles that gets results.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by 44ever

If we're winning who cares who the HC is. We are just fans, we don't go out to dinner with the guy. What's the worst that can be said, "Your coach is a buffoon?" Any Jets fan would simply say "I don't give a F%#k, We are going to the Superbowl."

What can you really say about that? Especially as a Skins fan. "Yes we are a losing team but at least we have a nice HC" ??? I'd rather be winning! Let's keep things in perspective and give credit where credit is due. The Jets seem to have just the right combo of character and talent to win.

Rex has something to do with their success, Im sure.

Jim Zorn = nice head coach
Rex Ryan = buffoon

I'll take the coach who has been to two straight conference championship games. Sure I'd cringe but I also would be psyched to watch the Skins actually win.

[skinsfan69]

Gotta be impressed that he's gotten a team with a real young qb to the conference finals two years in a row and they've all been road games. You just don't see that a lot in the NFL.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Jim Zorn = nice head coach
Rex Ryan = buffoon

I'll take the coach who has been to two straight conference championship games. Sure I'd cringe but I also would be psyched to watch the Skins actually win.

Yep... I'm not saying you have to be a "buffoon" to win, but it works for the Jets. And if it worked for the Redskins, I would be all for it. All I want to see is the Redskins win. I don't care about the character of the HC if the team is winning.

Guys wont play for coaches they can't respect. Rex obviously has the respect of his team.

He made his team believe in him and in themselves, and that they could beat any team in the league including NE.

For us NFL fans to point the finger at Rex's character as a person is just plain ignorance.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

A sad commentary on our society? Last time I checked football is still a sport...right? Some rivalry, celebration, smack talk and drama makes for good sports.
What happened in Arizona and the needless loss of innocent lives is a sad commentary on our society...not smack talk in a football game.
Matty is right this is sour grapes.

Right football is still a just a sport so why are we saying it is appropriate to use profanity on national tv or during interviews? I don't care if they want to trash talk and celebrate or anything like that. I coach XC and track and field and I tell my athletes that profanity is a sign of a weak man. Is there a time and place for it? sure, but on a daily basis and all the time it gets to be a little much. I don't have sour grapes, I have no rooting interest what so ever in Rex Ryan, but I do think it is possible to have some edge as a team and a coach and not be classless.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by 44ever

If we're winning who cares who the HC is. We are just fans, we don't go out to dinner with the guy. What's the worst that can be said, "Your coach is a buffoon?" Any Jets fan would simply say "I don't give a F%#k, We are going to the Superbowl."

What can you really say about that? Especially as a Skins fan. "Yes we are a losing team but at least we have a nice HC" ??? I'd rather be winning! Let's keep things in perspective and give credit where credit is due. The Jets seem to have just the right combo of character and talent to win.

Rex has something to do with their success, Im sure.

Congrats. to your Jets 44, they're making new believers every time they play. Great game-plan vs. the Pats.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Congrats. to your Jets 44, they're making new believers every time they play. Great game-plan vs. the Pats.

Thanks bro. But just to be clear, I am a Redskins fan 100%. I have lived in NY most of my life and now live in both NY and Fl. part time. So as long as the Skins are completely out of contention, I see no harm in rooting for the home town favorite. Plus it gives me a reason to talk some smack to Giants fans.

With that said, It has been exciting to follow the Jets and It's nice to see them finally winning. Beating the Colts and NE back to back was amazing.

It just goes to show that any team can emerge at any time. Hope our Skins time is near.

HTTR!!!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Congrats. to your Jets 44, they're making new believers every time they play. Great game-plan vs. the Pats.

It was a great game plan and it showed that Ryan adjusted his blitz happy ways and was only rushing 3-4 guy. it looked like he played coverage to the middle of the field and left his corners alone. If there is one thing New England should do with all those draft picks is try and find a true #1 wr cause they needed one yesterday.