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Old 07-30-2011, 03:57 AM   #1
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Re: How far can Beck take us?

Every NFL show every person out there is beating the hell out this kid verbally.

Mark Rypien is probably never going to the hall but he got the job done when everyone said he was garbage including Jack Kent Cooke to a point that he rolled up on Joe Gibbs and told him he screwed it up.

Im not saying he's the savior (for the record neither was campbell) I'm saying other than Joe Theisman (and I know im missing many generations of great skins players) this team's winning seasons weren't based on dynamite big name QB's hell one of them weren't even a starter in the league.

Give the Book of John (which is what alot of BYU fans refer to him as) a chance he didn't have much to win with in Miami so you can't solely fault him on that he was running for his life back there. Also Clemens, Chapell, and Grossman, all can win this job.

On a side note Did you catch Warren Sapps reaction when Joe Theisman said Beck looked alot like Brees!? Gotta say this is probably reaching but if we go 14-2 under this guy myself and a whole lotta skins fans are gonna be eating their hats and loads of crow too.
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Old 07-30-2011, 09:07 AM   #2
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Every NFL show every person out there is beating the hell out this kid verbally.

Mark Rypien is probably never going to the hall but he got the job done when everyone said he was garbage including Jack Kent Cooke to a point that he rolled up on Joe Gibbs and told him he screwed it up.

Im not saying he's the savior (for the record neither was campbell) I'm saying other than Joe Theisman (and I know im missing many generations of great skins players) this team's winning seasons weren't based on dynamite big name QB's hell one of them weren't even a starter in the league.

Give the Book of John (which is what alot of BYU fans refer to him as) a chance he didn't have much to win with in Miami so you can't solely fault him on that he was running for his life back there. Also Clemens, Chapell, and Grossman, all can win this job.

On a side note Did you catch Warren Sapps reaction when Joe Theisman said Beck looked alot like Brees!? Gotta say this is probably reaching but if we go 14-2 under this guy myself and a whole lotta skins fans are gonna be eating their hats and loads of crow too.
we're not going 14-2... 8-8 would be pretty lucky.
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Old 07-30-2011, 08:56 AM   #3
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Re: How far can Beck take us?

I think, just gut instinct, Rex will be our day one starter. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but if it's Beck I'll be pulling for him as I imagine all Skins fans will
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:36 AM   #4
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I think, just gut instinct, Rex will be our day one starter. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but if it's Beck I'll be pulling for him as I imagine all Skins fans will
Good to hear you say that. If John Beck is fortunate enough to actually win the QB competition and be announced the day one starter, there will be no pressure on him because so many have already predicted nothing but doom and gloom for the guy.

The pressure will be on MS to make it work, he has publicly raved about Beck while many have been critical of his judgement. I support both the coach and whoever wins the QB battle and will be very interested in seeing what the end will be.

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Old 07-30-2011, 02:35 PM   #5
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I mean look at the crap that happened during the last 4 years and tell me that controversy, crazy antics, and crazy ass decision making by the front office hasn't generated a ton of $$$$ for Snyder. JC, AH, and the McNabb sagas, gave Snyder free publicity in selling tickets. Shanahan has given the fans reason to hope for better days, just like the initial excitement of Spurrier's hiring, or when Coach Gibbs came back. Bringing in controversy or a breath of fresh air keeps the fans interested or at the very least talking, and that is bound to generate an increase in revenue. Bottom line is negative publicity is still publicity.
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Should never have traded Jason Campbell
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I hope Beck and his wife end up annoying me as much as Kurt Warner and his wife after retirement. They already have a lot of similarities. Both deeply religious, throw ugly spirals deep, accurate, quick release, won't shut up about how confident they are, overlooked one way or another. Still can anyone give me a definitive report on how Beck looks in camp. All I have is Kyle Shanahan saying he needs to tell him to leave him alone, a couple of ugly deep balls, a million questions, and the work ethic of every great QB in this league.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:22 AM   #9
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My best guess is that Shanahan looks at the organization and knows that there will not be a direct impact with the current roster he has. He tried last year with McNabb but no results were acheived. First and foremost, I don't think Shanahan believes that Beck is the answer. In fact, I think openning day starter will be Grossman. Secondly, 3 and 13 or 4 and 12 will probably land us the number 1 or 2 pick in next years draft which is stocked with good QB's primarily Andrew Luck and Landry Jones.

QB is the most important position on the team, with Beck's inexperience, I can only doubt that he will not provide the necessary leadership to make the Redskins a playoff caliber team.
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My best guess is that Shanahan looks at the organization and knows that there will not be a direct impact with the current roster he has. He tried last year with McNabb but no results were acheived. First and foremost, I don't think Shanahan believes that Beck is the answer. In fact, I think openning day starter will be Grossman. Secondly, 3 and 13 or 4 and 12 will probably land us the number 1 or 2 pick in next years draft which is stocked with good QB's primarily Andrew Luck and Landry Jones.

QB is the most important position on the team, with Beck's inexperience, I can only doubt that he will not provide the necessary leadership to make the Redskins a playoff caliber team.
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My best guess is that Shanahan looks at the organization and knows that there will not be a direct impact with the current roster he has. He tried last year with McNabb but no results were acheived. First and foremost, I don't think Shanahan believes that Beck is the answer. In fact, I think openning day starter will be Grossman. Secondly, 3 and 13 or 4 and 12 will probably land us the number 1 or 2 pick in next years draft which is stocked with good QB's primarily Andrew Luck and Landry Jones.

QB is the most important position on the team, with Beck's inexperience, I can only doubt that he will not provide the necessary leadership to make the Redskins a playoff caliber team.
Leadership is not directly correlated with technical expertise and proficiency. Beck's inexperience is due to a perceived lack of ability and proficiency.
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Re: How far can Beck take us?

Just heard on ESPN 980 that in training camp today, John Beck tossed two, perfect over-the-shoulder bombs to Armstrong, -- who dropped it; and Hankerson, -- who bobbled it, and landed out of bounds.

Also looked really sharp on play-action roll outs to the right side.
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Just heard on ESPN 980 that in training camp today, John Beck tossed two, perfect over-the-shoulder bombs to Armstrong, -- who dropped it; and Hankerson, -- who bobbled it, and landed out of bounds.

Also looked really sharp on play-action roll outs to the right side.
I heard that Beck was not doing well on long passes.
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I heard that Beck was not doing well on long passes.
There is a short piece in today's Wash Post saying the same thing. Not good. In a QB league I just dont see how the Skins can expect to compete without one.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:56 PM   #15
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There is a short piece in today's Wash Post saying the same thing. Not good. In a QB league I just dont see how the Skins can expect to compete without one.
I just think if the organization wants to win now, and it looks like they do, then they should go out and try and sign Bulger. He was the best FA out there and he's better than anyone we currently have.
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