NFLPA Files Collusion Lawsuit Against NFL, Owners

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I reiterate my earlier posts ... if this makes it past the Motion to Dismiss, there is going to some fun in the discovery phase.

They should sell tickets to Mara's deposition.

Id buy those tickets. A place where Mara's daddys money doesnt automatically protect him. I would like to see him squirm.

Having said that, I dont see this going anywhere. The fines they used against the skins and boys are not cap related in terms of total money spent. They were smart in how they went after them even though we all know the real reason was a chance to lower the spending of the two highest spending owners.

The fact is half the teams spent more than 123 mil that year. So I dont see how that stand up in court. Even if Doty, a labor friendly judge, does agree with the NFLPA, the court that will take up the appeal is a business friendly court. The collusion charges would have to make it through both courts to win, and I dont see that happening.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I reiterate my earlier posts ... if this makes it past the Motion to Dismiss, there is going to some fun in the discovery phase.

They should sell tickets to Mara's deposition.

Unfortunately, there will be no tickets. I think this also spells the end of any hope for cap relief next year. I haven't read the decision, but it appears Judge Doty ruled that the players waiver encompassed any violations that occurred during the cap free year.

Judge rules for NFL, ending player union's lawsuit over 2010 - ESPN

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Unfortunately, there will be no tickets. I think this also spells the end of any hope for cap relief next year. I haven't read the decision, but it appears Judge Doty ruled that the players waiver encompassed any violations that occurred during the cap free year.

Judge rules for NFL, ending player union's lawsuit over 2010 - ESPN

So does this mean there is ,or isn't a Lawsuit?

[JoeRedskin]

Again, once it gets to the discovery phase - if it gets there, all bets are off. Massive document discovery, depositions of all the owners, etc.

If it is not dismissed, I fully expect a settlement of some type.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Again, once it gets to the discovery phase - if it gets there, all bets are off. Massive document discovery, depositions of all the owners, etc.

If it is not dismissed, I fully expect a settlement of some type.

JR, isn't that what this ruling means? That he denied the motion to dismiss and will move to the next phase, or does he still have another hearing to dismiss after accepting the case?

[JoeRedskin]

Actually, I think it means he is leaning towards a dismissal. Not sure about the Federal Rules but, in Maryland, a Judge cannot grant a dispositive motion without a hearing i.e. judge's can't dispose of a case through dismissal or summary judgment without an oral hearing giving each side a chance to make argument.

Alternatively, he could have denied the Motion to Dismiss without a hearing which then would have moved the case into the discovery phase.

Right now it is in limbo - not moving forward, but not dismissed.

I'll check the Federal Rules when I get into work.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Actually, I think it means he is leaning towards a dismissal. Not sure about the Federal Rules but, in Maryland, a Judge cannot grant a dispositive motion without a hearing i.e. judge's can't dispose of a case through dismissal or summary judgment without an oral hearing giving each side a chance to make argument.

Alternatively, he could have denied the Motion to Dismiss without a hearing which then would have moved the case into the discovery phase.

Right now it is in limbo - not moving forward, but not dismissed.

I'll check the Federal Rules when I get into work.

Gotcha, I thought he had actually dismissed the request for dismissal, but you are right, he just said he would hear arguments on whether to dismiss the case.

As Dirtbag said "My god the courts are slow!"

[skinsguy]

I have forgotten all about this....lol! My #1 concern right now is getting Griffin's contract signed and him out there practicing.

[JoeRedskin]

'Cause everybody sues everybody ... and then there all those silly criminals to deal with.

It's not the only case on the docket. Everybody wants their case expedited. blah blah blah.

If only we had robots doing it.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

'Cause everybody sues everybody ... and then there all those silly criminals to deal with.

It's not the only case on the docket. Everybody wants their case expedited. blah blah blah.

If only we had robots doing it.

LOL nice!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

'Cause everybody sues everybody ... and then there all those silly criminals to deal with.

It's not the only case on the docket. Everybody wants their case expedited. blah blah blah.

If only we had robots doing it.

I really thought it was because lawyers tend to write real long boring prose. Therefore it takes longer to trudge through the motions when you are falling asleep every 5 pages.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

If only we had robots doing it.

Computers, JR. Not robots, COMPUTERS.

[JoeRedskin]

^^ That's why I include porn on every fifth page of my memos.

[CRedskinsRule]

outstanding

[JoeRedskin]

The suit is dismissed, subject to appeal to the appropriate Federal Circuit Court (Not sure which circuit it is). So, unless it is appealed and reversed, the NFLPA has no lawsuit.

The appeal would be only on whether J. Doty correctly applied the law. In that it is a Motion to Dismiss, the only issue was did the NFLPA allege facts which gave rise to an actionable claim. Apparently, due to the waiver they did not.