Jordan Black suspended for PEDs

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Redskins' OT Jordan Black: A railroad job | WashingtonExaminer.com

Sorry if this has been posted, but here you go. Gotta question this suspension and the appeal process. Not a fan of Goodell...

Its getting to the point you cant trust anything he or his administration is saying or doing. If feel mislead by Goodell and the league on alot of things. Bounty gate, Cap penalties, PEDs, Referee Lockout, etc. The list keeps growing. But he seems more focused on very unpopular ideas, International expansion, playoff expanision, etc.

Im just done Goodell, wish he pack up and go.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You'd give anything to trade out Mike Shanahan (and I'm guessing Kyle too) for Andy Reid?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You'd give anything to trade out Mike Shanahan (and I'm guessing Kyle too) for Andy Reid?

And have our business-focused "GM" start running personnel decisions. Genius!

[SmootSmack]

Goat, what did you think of McNabb in Philly?

[FRPLG]

Goat man I think you've worked yourself into a corner here. You do realize that BA is not really a personnel guy right? I guess more to the point...why do you think BA would be any "better" at it than Shanny? Or someone else? I think you must "hope" more than "believe" because there's no evidence to support your position that I know of.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You'd give anything to trade out Mike Shanahan (and I'm guessing Kyle too) for Andy Reid?

Wait ... aren't we supposed to judge by past successes? In 14 years, Reid has how many Super Bowl victories? How many times did he LOSE the NFC championship? Based on past performance, how is he better than MS? After taking time off he will magically recapture and improve upon his earlier success? What is the basis for such a conclusion?

Reid has had B. Westbrook and now L. McCoy - yet he can't find a running game. Third-down calls? Clock management? All of these are things Reid has been criticized for throughout his career. Aren't they exactly the things that about which certain people have criticized MS?

What makes him better than MS? I don't get it.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Goat man I think you've worked yourself into a corner here. You do realize that BA is not really a personnel guy right? I guess more to the point...why do you think BA would be any "better" at it than Shanny? Or someone else? I think you must "hope" more than "believe" because there's no evidence to support your position that I know of.

Strong post.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Goat, what did you think of McNabb in Philly?

Reid was holding him back.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Wait ... aren't we supposed to judge by past successes? In 14 years, Reid has how many Super Bowl victories? How many times did he LOSE the NFC championship? Based on past performance, how is he better than MS? After taking time off he will magically recapture and improve upon his earlier success? What is the basis for such a conclusion?

Reid has had B. Westbrook and now L. McCoy - yet he can't find a running game. Third-down calls? Clock management? All of these are things Reid has been criticized for throughout his career. Aren't they exactly the things that about which certain people have criticized MS?

What makes him better than MS? I don't get it.

Right, we'd rather trade out our two-time SB winning coach for a guy who got his team to be pretty good for a while. One coach's past success is relevant...the other's was achieved through no fault of his own.

[JoeRedskin]

If Goat is consistent in anything, it is his innate ability to be logically inconsistent.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Wait ... aren't we supposed to judge by past successes? In 14 years, Reid has how many Super Bowl victories? How many times did he LOSE the NFC championship? Based on past performance, how is he better than MS? After taking time off he will magically recapture and improve upon his earlier success? What is the basis for such a conclusion?

Reid has had B. Westbrook and now L. McCoy - yet he can't find a running game. Third-down calls? Clock management? All of these are things Reid has been criticized for throughout his career. Aren't they exactly the things that about which certain people have criticized MS?

What makes him better than MS? I don't get it.

Forget everything else, how you can take a talent like either B Westbrook and McCoy, and dumb down the offense to where defenses don't even have to worry about them? As ACME's favorite customer says Wile E Coyote, Super Genius!

Reid is a good coach(maybe was), but nothing in his recent past says he's going to turn it around, and I certainly strongly doubt he would here. Maybe going to SD, a change of scenery and division would spark something, but at this point in time, he just looks like he's lost it. The hiring of Juan Castillo was about as dumb a move as you could make, but then, he made an even dumber one in scapegoating his "friend" and firing him.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

If Goat is consistent in anything, it is his innate ability to be logically inconsistent.

This seems to be a recent development... or i just never noticed before. I feel like there are two or more people with access to his account. Sometimes, i feel like he's spot on. Other times, he says stuff like this.

[JoeRedskin]

Recent? No my friend ...
Example A
(1) We lack speed at receiver;
(2) Pierre Garcon is a bad signing, we should re-sign Jabar Gaffney.

Example B
(1) Our line can't pass protect;
(2) We should have a more traditional offense with Griffin doing more straight drop backs.

Example C
(1) MS past success came against weak competition in the AFC West and is not an indicator of future success;
(2) Other retread coaches with lesser resumes should be hired.

Sorry, Goat occasionally makes some legitimate points, but, IMHO, it's just b/c he always predicts failure by Shanahan. Well, not being perfect, predictions that MS will screw-up are bound to be right on occasion.

[SmootSmack]

You know what? Let's not let Goat usurp this thread. Until he returns to respond, let's just move on to the original topic at hand

[JoeRedskin]

^^ Yup. Sorry.

So, about those PED's ...