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Old 04-22-2013, 11:32 AM   #1
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Re: Official Redskins Off-Season News & Rumors-Part Trois

Aldrick could and probably should be a returner this year.

Banks is gone (should be) and Crawford might be seeing time on the field at nickel if we don't draft a CB who can step up, so why risk a thin secondary on punt returns?
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:06 PM   #2
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Re: Official Redskins Off-Season News & Rumors-Part Trois

Not Redskins thankfully, but the NFL offseason thread got locked. Rolando McClain strikes AGAIN!



Rolando McClain - Baltimore Ravens - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com


Ravens ILB Rolando McClain was arrested Sunday evening in Decatur (AL) for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.
Eyewitnesses say police ordered McClain and several others to leave Pines Park after a large crowd had gathered. McClain refused and began "cursing" at officers, before being handcuffed, and bailing out of jail shortly thereafter. McClain has now been arrested three times in his hometown of Decatur since 2011. He needs to stop going back there for the sake of his livelihood, and perhaps his personal safety. Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome smartly guaranteed no portion of McClain's one-year, $700,000 contract. He will be released shortly. Apr 21 - 11:30 PM
Source: WHNT-TV Huntsville

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The Ravens are "seeking more facts" on ILB Rolando McClain's latest arrest.
"The only information we have at this time is from media reports," said a team spokesman. That implies they've yet to speak with the mercurial linebacker, who was signed just 12 days ago. There are very few scenarios in which McClain keeps his roster spot. He won't find a third chance easy to come by. Apr 22 - 9:10 AM
Source: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter


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Ravens ILB Rolando McClain disorderly conduct and resisting arrest charges reportedly arose after McClain said "(expletive) the police" as he walked by an officer, and "tried to jerk his arms away twice" as he was handcuffed.
We're guessing "(expletive) the police" wasn't what the Ravens had in mind for a comeback credo when they gave McClain a second chance. Hopelessly immature and out of his depth as a professional, McClain is leaving a league that loves redemption stories little choice but to give up on him. Apr 22 - 10:27 AM
Source: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter
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Huh? We're gonna draft a WR now? If that's the case, and RT remains an issue this season you have to question the FO structure. And wonder if Vinnie is still in the building.

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Huh? We're gonna draft a WR now? If that's the case, and RT remains an issue this season you have to question the FO structure. And wonder if Vinnie is still in the building.

Insane.

I dont the think the Tackle prospects are as strong as the WR, Safety, and Cornerback positions.

I think they answered the Tackle position in FA.
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Re: Official Redskins Off-Season News & Rumors-Part Trois

Also, helping the Redskins, the Victor Cruz situation is getting interesting...

Time running out on Cruz's free agency | New York Daily News

Cliff notes:

*Giants offer Cruz $7 million, he declines and wants $10-11 million.

*Cruz gets a new agent, Jay-Z...who is pushing for a contract like Dwayne Bowe's (5 yr/$56 million).

*Other option is a $2.879 one-year tender to stay with Giants another season.

*Cruz did not sign an offer sheet with another team prior to 04/19 midnight deadline, meaning no other team wants to make him an offer.

*Giants can reduce Cruz's one-year, $2.879 million tender to $630,000 if he doesn't sign a contract by July 17.

*Giants GM Reese says he's not sure Cruz will report to team by Week 1. If Cruz holds out past Week 10, he loses a year of NFL accrued experience and will be an RFA again...and they'll repeat all of this mess in 2014.

“Victor is not here. He is a free agent. He is exercising all of his options, and we will see where it goes,” Reese said. “I don’t assume anything. We’ll see. I can tell you this: When we get ready to play, when the season starts, we will have some good players out there. I’m not sure if Victor will be there or not. But I don’t assume anything.”
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They're not going to draft an RT just to draft an RT
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They're not going to draft an RT just to draft an RT
They signed 3 RT (Polumbus, Pashos, Trueblood) and have 2 players they drafted in the past 2 years (Hurt, Compton) that all are candidates at RT. This one is an example where the staff/FO clearly has a different opinion and vision of need regarding this position and the 2013 draft.

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Huh? We're gonna draft a WR now? If that's the case, and RT remains an issue this season you have to question the FO structure. And wonder if Vinnie is still in the building.

Insane.
WR is still an issue on this team. Basically the future (2014 and beyond) of this position is Garçon and Hankerson. That's it. To ignore it in the draft is irresponsible. Also, using the BPA philosophy, especially if there is a run on secondary players in the 1st/2nd, WR may be the best value.
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They signed 3 RT (Polumbus, Pashos, Trueblood) and have 2 players they drafted in the past 2 years (Hurt, Compton) that all are candidates at RT. This one is an example where the staff/FO clearly has a different opinion and vision of need regarding this position and the 2013 draft.


WR is still an issue on this team. Basically the future (2014 and beyond) of this position is Garçon and Hankerson. That's it. To ignore it in the draft is irresponsible. Also, using the BPA philosophy, especially if there is a run on secondary players in the 1st/2nd, WR may be the best value.
Oh geez what a difference some random post makes (whoever initially said WR is suddenly an immediate need). What happened to Morgan, Robinson, Moss, Davis, Paulsen, next year's FA and draft?

You and the chief of police of Malibu...real reactionaries. lol

We have sufficient talent at WR for the foreseeable future and definitely for the 2013 campaign. We have no idea what's going on at RT. We have a franchise QB who was nearly murdered last season in several games. Personally, in four plus decades of watching football I don't remember hearing announcers/commentators say "That looks like a concussion" as often as it was said about RG last season. Unless somebody KNOWS who our starting RT is AND can say that person is up to the task (health, talent etc), assuming we're good there just doesn't make any sense.
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Oh geez what a difference some random post makes (whoever initially said WR is suddenly an immediate need). What happened to Morgan, Robinson, Moss, Davis, Paulsen, next year's FA and draft?

You and the chief of police of Malibu...real reactionaries. lol

We have sufficient talent at WR for the foreseeable future and definitely for the 2013 campaign. We have no idea what's going on at RT. We have a franchise QB who was nearly murdered last season in several games. Personally, in four plus decades of watching football I don't remember hearing announcers/commentators say "That looks like a concussion" as often as it was said about RG last season. Unless somebody KNOWS who our starting RT is AND can say that person is up to the task (health, talent etc), assuming we're good there just doesn't make any sense.
Have Compton and Pashos been informed of that fact?
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Have Compton and Pashos been informed of that fact?
Wait, what? I thought it was Polumbus and Brown?

I can't keep all the nobody's and has-beens straight anymore

Does anybody know anything about Compton? Pashos sounds like a stand up guy. Given his injury situation though, relying on him would be unforgivable by the FO.
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I'd take a random rookie over Trueblood though.
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Nfldraftscout has come out with their top 90 RBs in the NFL.

Royster came in at 73. Alfred came in at 11.

They also came out with their final mock draft and have us taking:


Matt Elam S
Dwayne Gratz CB
Nico Johnson ILB
JC Tretter OG
Lavar Edwards OLB
Jakar Hamilton S
Anthony McCloud NT
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This is ShanAllen's 4th draft. As we enter into their 4th draft, here's a little recap/reminder of past drafts with my own take on each:

2010:
Trent Williams (1)
Perry Riley (4)
Dennis Morris (6)
Terrence Austin (7)
Erik Cook (7)
Selvish Capers (7)

Hits: Williams, Riley.
Misses: Everybody else.
Three years down the road, a starting left tackle and a starting ILB. Williams took a huge step forward last year and, barring injury, will hopefully continue. While Okung out in Seattle has earned some pro bowl recognition, I am okay with this pick as I think Williams is about to enter into beast mode and be a fixture in post season honors. Riley, after a non-descript start, and IMO, had a breakout 2012 and has really a solid player for a 4th round pick. He is the kind of in-house developed player we need to keep getting and devolping through the draft.

As to the misses, the average number of players stickng for more than 3 years out of the 7th round is pretty abysmal percentage. No great shakes here.

2011
Ryan Kerrigan (1)
Jarvis Jenkins (2)
Leonard Hankerson (3)
Roy Helu (4)
Dejon Gomes (5)
Niles Paul (5)
Evan Royster (6)
Aldrick Robinson (6)
Brandyn Thompson (7)
Maurice Hurt (7)
Markus White (7)
Chris Neild (7)

Hard to label anyone in this class a clear hit or a clear miss - Kerrigan is solid and flashes potential but, IMHO, a first rounder should consistently challenge for pro-bowl recognition. Not sure if you can say that about Kerrigan.

For the rest of the class, this is the year for them to step up. Right now, only [EDIT: Markus White] is no longer with the team. On one hand, if everyone else develops like Perry Riley did, we could have a terrific class here. Hell, if half the names mentioned become regular solid starters (or major contributors like Helu as the change of pace/3rd down back) after an initial slow production, it would still be a very good draft.

At the same time, even w/out knowing who we draft, and by the end of training camp, I could see Gomes, Royster, Robinson, Thompson and Nield gone. I think Hankerson, Helu and Paul get a year to show up, but it is not beyond the realm of probability that they could be gone also.

2012
Robert Griffin III (1)
Josh LeRibeus (3)
Kirk Cousins (4)
Keenan Robinson (4)
Adam Gettis (5)
Alfred Morris (6)
Tom Compton (6)
Richard Crawford (7)
Jordan Bernstine (7)

Griffin & Morris. If we drafted no one else, this would be a great class. Throw in Cousins. Amazing. I think Crawford goes into the hit column as well, he had some rough games but he also had some really solid plays as a DB. As a returner ... Banks who??

LeRibeus, Gettis and Compton. Just don't know enough. Apparently they are very high on LeRib. It would be nice if all three pan out - especially Compton - but draftable OL are, to me, pretty much replaceable after the 4th round. Sooner or later we are bound to hit on some of these guys.

Crossing my fingers on Robinson and Bernstine. Not much else to do with them.

All in all, lots of question marks with some real solid hits and now giant whiffs. I imagine more of the same this year.
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Just a further note. In three years, Shanallen have drafted 27 players. Of them, 22 are currently on the roster. Even if lose 8 guys from the classes of 2011 & 12 after training camp, that close to a 50% hit rate on all draft picks. Hard to argue with that.
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