Cowpukes postgame finger pointing thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

For anyone criticizing the first onside kick. It was a perfect play call. Terrible execution. Ball wastate 10 yards with nobody around it but Redskins. It just continued to roll another 8 after.

Perfect play call? It is a gamble call. When you are down 5 in enemy territory and have some momentum I personally would not gamble. It was not a horrible call, and you are correct the execution was terrible.
Was not terrible, but was certainly not perfect. Just a gamble. Imo a bad time to do so.....
If we were down 12 with ten minutes left it would have been a smart gamble - or perfect gamble - whatever. Just didn't see a need to gamble at that point.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Biggest issue with moving Cravens to safety in Joe Barry defense is he requires his safeties to be interchangeable. So there really is no "strong safety" and "free safety"

I think Cravens can play both. He could drop some weight, you know. If Barry doesn't think so, he can change his damn system, as far as I'm concerned.

[sevier2]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If everyone watching from their couches can see this then why can't these dummies that are getting paid see it? This falls on Joe Barry and Gruden. Gruden as the HC need to just say..."F this, let him learn and master ONE position and then we'll talk about using him elsewhere." I just don't get what they're doing there.

That's literally, EXACTLY what Gruden has said. He wants Cravens to learn and prosper at the LineBacker position before moving him around to Safety positions. It may not be the position you wanted first but the plan is there.

Also, Cravens is a ROOKIE. Let's let the kid get a year under his belt before we ask him to do something veterans struggle with.

I honestly can't believe the ignorance of fans who say "Just have him play two positions WTF!?" This is the NFL. You don't just go back and forth between positions willy-nilly. Imagine being hired in a company and asked to learn two jobs as a fresh intern out of college.

With all that said I DO think Cravens can be that switch player going from LB to Safety eventually. But it takes time.

[punch it in]

He is certainly familiar with playing both positions. I think he would be an upgrade at safety- rookie or not. That being said I will just let the coaches decide where he can make the biggest impact.

[Chico23231]

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Holy shit. Welp

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He is certainly familiar with playing both positions. I think he would be an upgrade at safety- rookie or not. That being said I will just let the coaches decide where he can make the biggest impact.

He would actually have to basically learn a new playbook... BUT the safety position is easier to learn (didn't say easier to play) because you """only""" have to learn coverage (which you also need to know as a LB), but your run responsibility is basically always the same (at least it is not nearly as complicated as it is for a LB). And since he has played the position, I'm sure he could do it.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Su'a Cravens just fine at LB, but Donte Whitner struggles - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

He's got some good points.
I'd still say moving Cravens to SS would be the "less bad" solution for this year. Next year we definitely need new safeties.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

He's got some good points.
I'd still say moving Cravens to SS would be the "less bad" solution for this year. Next year we definitely need new safeties.

4.69 speed not good enough, I guess it wouldn't hurt to experiment and see what happens.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Dallas-Washington Thanksgiving game topped 35 million viewers | ProFootballTalk

Holy shit. Welp

Bandwagon Dallas fans

[punch it in]

We are going further in the playoffs then they do this year. I have no doubts about that.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Perfect play call? It is a gamble call. When you are down 5 in enemy territory and have some momentum I personally would not gamble. It was not a horrible call, and you are correct the execution was terrible.
Was not terrible, but was certainly not perfect. Just a gamble. Imo a bad time to do so.....
If we were down 12 with ten minutes left it would have been a smart gamble - or perfect gamble - whatever. Just didn't see a need to gamble at that point.

When you make calls like that. Just like in Tampa Bay last year, you actually watch film and prepare for the situation. They noticed Dallas gets lazy and drops early on kick return. He even said in the press he noticed they have a gap. That pretty fucking good film study on a short week if you ask me.

He saw the opening and took it. I didn't see it as a gamble, I saw it as preparation and execution. Just like if you decide that a 2 TE set is more effective against one team then the other.

Only problem was, it was poor execution.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I think Cravens can play both. He could drop some weight, you know. If Barry doesn't think so, he can change his damn system, as far as I'm concerned.

He could easily gain weight as well just like Trent Murphy. We need to draft a good safety and not try to plug in another to fill the role like we've done for a decade

Moving Sua to Safety would not only allow him to regress at Linebacker this year. It'll prevent valuable experience he could obtain at the tail end of the year at his more natural position.....Linebacker.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

He's got some good points.
I'd still say moving Cravens to SS would be the "less bad" solution for this year. Next year we definitely need new safeties.

How long have we needed new safeties?!?

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[Bangee7]

Originally Posted by Bucket

When you make calls like that. Just like in Tampa Bay last year, you actually watch film and prepare for the situation. They noticed Dallas gets lazy and drops early on kick return. He even said in the press he noticed they have a gap. That pretty fucking good film study on a short week if you ask me.

He saw the opening and took it. I didn't see it as a gamble, I saw it as preparation and execution. Just like if you decide that a 2 TE set is more effective against one team then the other.

Only problem was, it was poor execution.

well said...I was good with the call, even though it didn't go our way. I'd much rather go-down swinging than by dying a slow death!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How long have we needed new safeties?!?

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And drafted 2 which neither panned out, Shanahan's picks.