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[SFREDSKIN]

Marshall activated from IR, Quick released.

[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I think in this day and age everyone is so QB focused it’s easy to forget there are other formulas for success that don’t revolve around having a stud QB.

Yeah CR it’s funny how winning with D and the running game is somehow a bad thing.

Please. It is undisputed that the QB is the most critical position in all of sports. Ours sucks and cannot throw a ball over 10yds.


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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Please. It is undisputed that the QB is the most critical position in all of sports. Ours sucks and cannot throw a ball over 10yds.


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I don't think he has a lot of opportunities to throw it deep right now. PR was our only deep threat.

He was injured near the beginning of the season and played injured until he was shut down.

Nobody else on the roster can take the top off and the defenses adjust and play the intermediate routes more aggressively.

VD is the closest thing we have to a deep threat and he really isn't.

The rest of the receivers can't create separation with speed.

He isn't throwing it deep, but that doesn't mean he can't.

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[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I don't think he has a lot of opportunities to throw it deep right now. PR was our only deep threat.

He was injured near the beginning of the season and played injured until he was shut down.

Nobody else on the roster can take the top off and the defenses adjust and play the intermediate routes more aggressively.

VD is the closest thing we have to a deep threat and he really isn't.

The rest of the receivers can't create separation with speed.

He isn't throwing it deep, but that doesn't mean he can't.

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So how come Cousins could run high octane with a desimated line, Jordan Reed injured most of the year, Chris Thompson injured most of the year, Doctson out all year, no running game, and a horrible defense that put all the load on the offense???

Smith has been handed a mostly healthy line, healthy Jordan Reed, healthy Doctson, and excellent ground game, stout defense, and still can’t produce??


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[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

So how come Cousins could run high octane with a desimated line, Jordan Reed injured most of the year, Chris Thompson injured most of the year, Doctson out all year, no running game, and a horrible defense that put all the load on the offense???

Smith has been handed a mostly healthy line, healthy Jordan Reed, healthy Doctson, and excellent ground game, stout defense, and still can’t produce??


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This is fake news. He has 2 OL starters, Doctson missed a few games, and he is missing the best receivers on the team. (Crowder and Prich)

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

So how come Cousins could run high octane with a desimated line, Jordan Reed injured most of the year, Chris Thompson injured most of the year, Doctson out all year, no running game, and a horrible defense that put all the load on the offense???

Smith has been handed a mostly healthy line, healthy Jordan Reed, healthy Doctson, and excellent ground game, stout defense, and still can’t produce??


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All that high octane then the dragster engine would explode right before the finish line and go sideways. For all his pretty stats Kirk was 26-30-1 as a starter here. He seemed to make his bonehead plays and bad throws at the worst possible time. He is 5-3-1 with a Minnesota team that is equal to or better talent wise than our Redskins. Three times this year he has thrown for over 350 yards and in those games he is 0-3. I will take 200 yards, no turnovers and a "W" over that anytime.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

So how come Cousins could run high octane with a desimated line, Jordan Reed injured most of the year, Chris Thompson injured most of the year, Doctson out all year, no running game, and a horrible defense that put all the load on the offense???

Smith has been handed a mostly healthy line, healthy Jordan Reed, healthy Doctson, and excellent ground game, stout defense, and still can’t produce??


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Cool straw man.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...throwers-of-17

The link shows how it really was last year though.

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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

So how come Cousins could run high octane with a desimated line, Jordan Reed injured most of the year, Chris Thompson injured most of the year, Doctson out all year, no running game, and a horrible defense that put all the load on the offense???

Smith has been handed a mostly healthy line, healthy Jordan Reed, healthy Doctson, and excellent ground game, stout defense, and still can’t produce??


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Chris Thompson went out week 11.

http://www.nfl.com/player/kirkcousins/2532820/profile

Kirk had 18 total turnovers last year. 13 int and 5 fumbles to 27 td passes.

I liked Kirk, he would sling it. But without the receivers creating separation, it is going to put the ball in jeopardy.

Alex is much more careful with the ball.

So again, it's not that he can't throw deep.

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[BaltimoreSkins]

I do not see any data that suggests Colt can do what AS is doing only conjecture. If you look at Colts lifetime stats he has thrown for 26 TDs vs 23 Int. His best year throwing was 2.2 int %. Alex Smith has not had an Int% above 2 since 2012.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...S/SmitAl03.htm

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I do not see any data that suggests Colt can do what AS is doing only conjecture. If you look at Colts lifetime stats he has thrown for 26 TDs vs 23 Int. His best year throwing was 2.2 int %. Alex Smith has not had an Int% above 2 since 2012.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...S/SmitAl03.htm

Colt can do way more than what Alex can do. We would be able to move the ball on a consistent basis and score more points with Colt. You can't compare Colt stats with Alex stats because Colt hasn't gotten an opportunity. The last time he got a chance to start for this team was back in 2014. He's grown as a player and he knows this system better than anyone on this roster. I think it's time to see what he can do.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by httr198020

Colt can do way more than what Alex can do. We would be able to move the ball on a consistent basis and score more points with Colt. You can't compare Colt stats with Alex stats because Colt hasn't gotten an opportunity. The last time he got a chance to start for this team was back in 2014. He's grown as a player and he knows this system better than anyone on this roster. I think it's time to see what he can do.

This is all speculation. How do you know he can run offense better and grown as a player? Here is what I do know. Colt is given the opportunity to show his skills every year at camp, off seasons and practice and people who know far more about football than you or I do not think he is a starter

[Schneed10]

Agree, that’s a very dubious claim. Smith’s turnover rate per snap and per game is miles ahead of Colt’s, whether you count Colt’s entire career or count only his Redskins career, either way.

You know how talking heads always love to say Alex Smith just wins games, and they seemingly throw up their hands as if there’s no explanation for it? The reason that happens is the low turnover rate. There’s no stat more correlated with wins/losses than turnover margin. Smith’s teams almost always are on the plus side.

Now I do understand some consternation - if you’re down by 7 in the 4th and you need a TD I don’t like Smith’s chances and that limits us. But if you had played Colt that entire game then we’re more likely to be down by 14 in the 4th.

Smith is not Brees who keeps turnovers low AND carves up defenses. But he’s also not Cousins, who carved up defenses but coughs the ball up.

[MTK]

All that from Cousins last year led to 7 wins

We can match that total today

[BaltimoreSkins]

I am very excited for today's game. I read somewhere that Houston's RZ offense and RZ defense are both bottom of the barrel in the NFL. If the Skins defense keeps the plays in front the Houston offense can be held. I think we have some opportunities for RZ touchdowns their super aggressive front will open up short gains.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Cousins isn't on the team. We didn't win jack squat with him either. Fuck him. Alex is, and we're 6-3.

2 of the 3 games we lost, the defense got merked. Offense really had no chance to win those. The Colts game is the only game if offense could have did something we could have won. Now the defense has helped us win 6, if not won them for us, so not blaming them. Just saying, 6 of 7 the games we had an actual chance to win, we did, and Alex was part of those.