Should Gruden be fired ?

[REDSKINS4ever]

I just listened to Jay Gruden's Wednesday press conference...he was asked about Mason Foster's tweets about trashing the organization and the Redskins fans....he simply excused the player for his transgressions....

That's the problem with this team and coach....players are not accountable! He doesn't care that a player trashed the team and fans because it was a private conversation? Get a clue Jay you are part of the dysfunction and culture that needs to change!

[SkinzWin]

Hindsight is 20-20, but what if Gruden has been fired last year and we promoted McVay to HC?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Foster would already be off the team if I was in charge.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Foster would already be off the team if I was in charge.

Him and DJ Swearinger would both be gone if it was any other team in the NFL.

It seems like the guys with the biggest bark on social media / etc. have been the shittiest players for us this season. Both guys should really just STFU and let their play do the talking. I'm not upset that they are upset about our trash organization. But i do believe there is a right way to handle it / privately address it with coaches / etc. Social media is not the right way, IMO.

[calia]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Hindsight is 20-20, but what if Gruden has been fired last year and we promoted McVay to HC?

We’d be 13-0 of course.


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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Him and DJ Swearinger would both be gone if it was any other team in the NFL.

It seems like the guys with the biggest bark on social media / etc. have been the shittiest players for us this season. Both guys should really just STFU and let their play do the talking. I'm not upset that they are upset about our trash organization. But i do believe there is a right way to handle it / privately address it with coaches / etc. Social media is not the right way, IMO.

This organization just refuses to set any kind of example. Just a complete systematic failure that never gets fixed.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Hindsight is 20-20, but what if Gruden has been fired last year and we promoted McVay to HC?

McVay left after 2016....he was with the Rams HC last year....

But Gruden would not have been fired last year....

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

McVay left after 2016....he was with the Rams HC last year....

But Gruden would not have been fired last year....

That’s what I meant! Just seeing if everyone was paying attention.

[CRedskinsRule]

How has no one been fired? I still don't understand.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How has no one been fired? I still don't understand.

Well let's see.

Option A. DS has learned wisdom and perspective through the years, and is sticking to his old promise not to fire anyone during the season.

Option B. DS has learned nothing, and thinks injuries are an acceptable reason for this raging dumpster fire.

Option C. DS is waiting to fire Gruden/co. but is still soliciting BA's opinion out of reverence for his father.

Option D. DS is bound and gagged in his basement (and hasn't watched since we were 6-3) and Allen is calling all the shots now.

Option E. DS is still stupid and is waiting until after the season to fire BA (when there's really no good reason to wait, let's get a head start on everybody else and let the new GM figure out whether to fire Gruden/co. at the end of the season).

Option F. DS is determined to find a new GM before he fires Allen, and the ball rolls from there.

[MTK]

Snyder doesn’t like the reputation of an owner with an itchy trigger finger.


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Snyder doesn’t like the reputation of an owner with an itchy trigger finger.


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I get that with the coaches, but i view this giants debacle much like when cerrato was let go. Very similar circumstances and with the dwindling atadium crowds, i doubt firing Allen or even just moving Smith up and re positioning BA in the organization would be seen as a smart move. Heck GB AND Minnesota fired people already this season so he wouldnt be alone in the in season actions.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well let's see.

Option A. DS has learned wisdom and perspective through the years, and is sticking to his old promise not to fire anyone during the season.

Option B. DS has learned nothing, and thinks injuries are an acceptable reason for this raging dumpster fire.

Option C. DS is waiting to fire Gruden/co. but is still soliciting BA's opinion out of reverence for his father.

Option D. DS is bound and gagged in his basement (and hasn't watched since we were 6-3) and Allen is calling all the shots now.

Option E. DS is still stupid and is waiting until after the season to fire BA (when there's really no good reason to wait, let's get a head start on everybody else and let the new GM figure out whether to fire Gruden/co. at the end of the season).

Option F. DS is determined to find a new GM before he fires Allen, and the ball rolls from there.

Regardless the answer is always F. DS

[calia]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Regardless the answer is always F. DS

This may get the post of the year award.

In all seriousness, though, I hope it is because he's figuring out who the GM should be and that the GM will be intimately involved in the coaching search and decision. I will say this, though -- if there isn't a major change in the offseason (barring some miraculous win streak now), the fan base will leave in droves. I assume that the folks on the Warpath are among the most loyal, and comments in the last few weeks reflect extraordinary disaffection.

[sevier2]

Originally Posted by calia

This may get the post of the year award.

In all seriousness, though, I hope it is because he's figuring out who the GM should be and that the GM will be intimately involved in the coaching search and decision. I will say this, though -- if there isn't a major change in the offseason (barring some miraculous win streak now), the fan base will leave in droves. I assume that the folks on the Warpath are among the most loyal, and comments in the last few weeks reflect extraordinary disaffection.

Very true. I consider most posters here to be realistic and level-headed (for the most part.) When the mood around here is as negative as it has been lately, things are in bad shape.

I think Snyder needs to find a competent GM and let him make the decisions, alone.

We don't need another "Team President" or "VP of Player Personnel." And we don't need this "Decision by Committee" crap we have going on now. We need a SINGULAR GM who is going to be in charge and call the shots the way HE sees fit. Of course, this only works if you have the right guy put in place. (Please, Please, Please don't put Doug Williams into this role.) Set up a clear chain of command and let the people do their job. Look what Dorsey has done in Cleveland.

If Snyder goes on to hire another Business Exec to "Team up" with what we already have in place, it's going to be more of the same.

Vinny Cerato, Bruce Allen.... who's next in this lineage of failure??