Manders v Chiefs

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Other than the 3rd down defense, I like what I have seen so far this preseason. Preseason results mean nothing anyway, so I am not going to get too excited about the positives or the negatives. They aren't showing everything, just evaluating players.

Well you could say the same about KC. What were they showing?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well you could say the same about KC. What were they showing?

Well .. they were showing Mahomes, who went off schedule on at least one 3rd down play to move the chains on a play most NFL qbs dont make. Mahomes/Chiefs are on a different level than us. 150 yards, 2 80+ yards TD drives on first 2 possessions.

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Preseason so its lame to complain about boring football but that was some boring football, extension of last year.

On offense

-2nd and 1 (130 1Q) .. run
- 2nd and 1 (12:24 2Q) .. run
- 2nd and 1 (10:22 2Q) .. run

Call one PA deep shot w Wentz. Give Wentz and McLaurin/Samuel/Dotson/Brown some live ball chances.

Defense

3rd Down D ... horrible. Move some guys around, get a TE or a RB man matched up on a LB and pick up your 1st down. Or if we show zone, run some shallow rub route target the zone and pick up your first down.

Jamin Davis played pretty well in some post game twitter cut ups in coverage

If JDR insists on playing zones, we arent good at knowing when to release and when to stick with our guy. We arent good at communicating when guys are being passed off. Arent good at picking guys up. Arent good at not QB staring.

On 3rd down .. rush 6 and play man on the outside. Trust the rush to get there, trust your CBs to jam at the line and cover for 3 seconds knowing if the ball does come out its coming out hot.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well you could say the same about KC. What were they showing?

They were showing that they have better players than us.

[calia]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

They were showing that they have better players than us.

And better coaching.


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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by calia

And better coaching.


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Not even in the same league. Andy Reid could score 40 on JDR every week

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

They were showing that they have better players than us.

this

[skinsfan69]

The difference was KC has Pat Mahomes and we don't. He put up 14 against our first team d. Had that been a real game it would have gotten ugly.

[Chico23231]

Time for Jon Allen to earn that leadership title in camp. Time to get physical about this bs

[skinsfaninok]

I hate the "It's only PS excuse" I Love how Baltimore legit wants to win every game no matter what.

Lets call it like it is, we have looked very subpar so far. Wentz has been fine but the defense has been shit.

Nothing is going to change until we get better LB play

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I hate the "It's only PS excuse" I Love how Baltimore legit wants to win every game no matter what.

Lets call it like it is, we have looked very subpar so far. Wentz has been fine but the defense has been shit.

Nothing is going to change until we get better LB play

Im holding out hope that we go aggressive and blitz on 3rd .. just dont want to show it in PS

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Im holding out hope that we go aggressive and blitz on 3rd .. just dont want to show it in PS

That's the best we can hope for - but when have you ever seen JDR turn it up a notch with the pressure when the regular season starts?

He acts like we can sustain pressure rushing 4 every down - our d-line is paper tigers at best right now. He's gotta be on the hot seat if we can't get off the field on 3rd down this year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I hate the "It's only PS excuse" I Love how Baltimore legit wants to win every game no matter what.

Lets call it like it is, we have looked very subpar so far. Wentz has been fine but the defense has been shit.

Nothing is going to change until we get better LB play

I would disagree on Wentz cause he took possible points off the board with a stupid sack. However I don't think he played bad. Taylor played better imo.

It's going to be a long year in coverage. These guys are not going to hold up w/out a pass rush. Curl may be a good hitter and solid tackler but he and McCain are going to get exposed in coverage.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would disagree on Wentz cause he took possible points off the board with a stupid sack. However I don't think he played bad. Taylor played better imo.

It's going to be a long year in coverage. These guys are not going to hold up w/out a pass rush. Curl may be a good hitter and solid tackler but he and McCain are going to get exposed in coverage.

Unless CY and Sweat all of the sudden become TJ Watt like, our defense will struggle vs the pass yet again. Jags and Lions maybe not as much but even those 2 teams have weapons that can get open on us

[sdskinsfan2001]

The 3rd down defense looks like its going to be absolutely abysmal again. Doesn't matter if its 3rd and 12 or 3rd and 4, someone will be wide-ass open in the secondary.

[SunnySide]

I think RR is a very good coach, leader of men. I think Scott Turner is a good OC.

RR trusts his Coordinators.

Scott Turner has had below avg players to work with and a bottom 5 Qb for every game of his tenure here. But hes been able to call a playbook that works to our strengths. Quick one read looks to our backs compliment our weak armed no experience QB and our RB personnel. Also saves our OL and limits turn overs. All geared towards limiting turn overs, valuing T.O.P. and trusting your D.

JDR has most of our resources (up until this year). 5 1st rounders. Fuller in FA. WJ3 in FA.

This team is getting better but it needs its playmakers to step up.

It needs our D to get off the field on 3rd down.

It needs wentz to smart play pitch and catch and then set up the PA bomb.

Theres a formula in place to win. Just need to go out and "do it". Blanket their TEs on 3rd. Throw it long when Terry is 1 on 1.