All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix)

MTK · 10-05-2005, 11:35 AM

Call me crazy and a blind loyalist, but I'm trusting our coaches on this one.

As much as I love LaVar, if Williams and co. feel that LaVar doesn't fit in to the mix, I'm going to defer to their judgement and trust the decision.

We had the #3 overall D last year and so far this year we're #5 all without LaVar. Seems to me that the guys running the ship have a firm grasp on what they're doing.

diehardskin2982 · 10-05-2005, 11:55 AM

This whole Lavar "doesn't fit in" shit is totaly false. I say this because I remember last year in the preseason game agianst the Falcons, he had a monster game and Williams put him in the right position to do very well.
I think it's more of what I said in an earlier post about Snyder, or that Arrington is a victom of his own attitude. When u see him on the sideline he is isolated and not looking over schemes or talking with Williams at all. Maybe he is isolating himself out of a job

EXoffender · 10-05-2005, 12:10 PM

Do these "face of the franchise" players understand that this is where a huge contract gets them?

firstdown · 10-05-2005, 12:11 PM

Williams is the man and I think he is just waiting for the right game to unleash Lavar. Lavar is talking alot about how he will do what the coaches want of him and if what we have seen is all we are going to see of Lavar he would not be this patient. I would think as he gets more time in pratice he will be worked into more schemes and he will see more playing time. Money is not a factor its about what the coaches feel is best for the team just like the Brunell situation and we see how thats turned out.

diehardskin2982 · 10-05-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Williams is the man and I think he is just waiting for the right game to unleash Lavar. Lavar is talking alot about how he will do what the coaches want of him and if what we have seen is all we are going to see of Lavar he would not be this patient. I would think as he gets more time in pratice he will be worked into more schemes and he will see more playing time. Money is not a factor its about what the coaches feel is best for the team just like the Brunell situation and we see how thats turned out.

Thats why I feel it's not an issue of coaching at all but an issue with the ownership

firstdown · 10-05-2005, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Thats why I feel it's not an issue of coaching at all but an issue with the ownership

Are you saying Danny does not want Lavar on the field and the coaches are going along and you think the same was true with brunell and Ramsey?

diehardskin2982 · 10-05-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Are you saying Danny does not want Lavar on the field and the coaches are going along and you think the same was true with brunell and Ramsey?

I don't think the same about brunnel or Ramsey at all. That was a coaching issue.
Lavar on the other hand has blasted the team in the past in the media.
Had a dirty dispute with the team over 6.5 million dollars.
Lavar has a hefty contract and the less time he has on the field the more money the team saves.

Because of that preseason game were Willams was able to use Arrington well, I think those whole thing about him not being able to "fit" into schemes is just smoke and mirrors.

MTK · 10-05-2005, 12:26 PM

I really don't think this has anything to do with Snyder at all.

firstdown · 10-05-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really don't think this has anything to do with Snyder at all.

I agree with you but if it did I would be very dispointed in our coaching staff.

#56fanatic · 10-05-2005, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I agree with you but if it did I would be very dispointed in our coaching staff.

If anything, I believe Danny wants LaVar on the field. You have to remember, Danny was a diehard Redskin fan before he struck it rich and bought them. If this was anyother coaching staff, he would have already demanded LaVar be on the field. In a way, I wish he would step in and say to play him.

MTK · 10-05-2005, 12:36 PM

Snyder and Arrington are supposedly very tight, I'm not sure how the whole contract dispute thing may have hurt their relationship, but LaVar was a pallbearer at Snyder's father's funeral if that tells you anything.

Hog1 · 10-05-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Snyder and Arrington are supposedly very tight, I'm not sure how the whole contract dispute thing may have hurt their relationship, but LaVar was a pallbearer at Snyder's father's funeral if that tells you anything.

Exactly!!! That's why it cannot be a Danny thing. Additionally, It will take a lot more than I have read thus far to convince me that our coaching staff would be involved in some kind of nefarious plot, and conspire to keep Lavar off the field for illegitimate reasons. There is NO payoff for the Redskins?

RedskinRat · 10-05-2005, 12:35 PM

It's too easy to use the same 'Dan Snyder ruined the Redskins' excuse. If we have gained anything with the re-hire of Coach Gibbs it's that Dan has taken a back seat to Gibbs.

I'd guess at a Lavar Vs. Williams ego clash. Lavar has a problem playing outside of his instictive style, Williams needs him to to perform within the framework.

When the circumstances dictate (i.e. we're looking to take a QB out of his rhythm, Mr. Plummer) Lavar will be let loose, lord help the poor bugger on the end of THAT storm.

kinobom · 10-05-2005, 12:40 PM

>>Snyder will make his life hell as a Redskin. Maybe what Coles said was true, cause it seems to me that he is carrying it out on Lavar.>>

>>So what are the facts??? IMHO, I believe the skins realized that they don't need $11+M tied to one player, when that player is replaceable by a system. Secondly, I think what makes arrington so attractive to alot of teams is also the reason why he is not attractive to Williams/Lindsay.>>

Firstly (to the first quote) do we want this kind of Owner? I know, I know... it is a rhetorical question. We are Stuck with him.
Secondly - Shouldn't we be thinking about the future? Won't it be about time for Williams to get another chance to be a head coach after this season? What if our next Def. Coordinator prizes LA's Style of play. OBC spermier got rid of Steve Davis and boy, Joe Gibbs sure would have liked to have had SD last year.

12thMan · 10-05-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kinobom

>>Snyder will make his life hell as a Redskin. Maybe what Coles said was true, cause it seems to me that he is carrying it out on Lavar.>>

>>So what are the facts??? IMHO, I believe the skins realized that they don't need $11+M tied to one player, when that player is replaceable by a system. Secondly, I think what makes arrington so attractive to alot of teams is also the reason why he is not attractive to Williams/Lindsay.>>

Firstly (to the first quote) do we want this kind of Owner? I know, I know... it is a rhetorical question. We are Stuck with him.
Secondly - Shouldn't we be thinking about the future? Won't it be about time for Williams to get another chance to be a head coach after this season? What if our next Def. Coordinator prizes LA's Style of play. OBC spermier got rid of Steve Davis and boy, Joe Gibbs sure would have liked to have had SD last year.

I doubt Williams is going anywhere next year. He's well paid here - and could very well be Gibbs' heir appearant. Plus he loves himself some Sean Taylor

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10-05-2005, 11:35 AM	#1
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) Call me crazy and a blind loyalist, but I'm trusting our coaches on this one. As much as I love LaVar, if Williams and co. feel that LaVar doesn't fit in to the mix, I'm going to defer to their judgement and trust the decision. We had the #3 overall D last year and so far this year we're #5 all without LaVar. Seems to me that the guys running the ship have a firm grasp on what they're doing. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-05-2005, 11:55 AM	#2
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) This whole Lavar "doesn't fit in" shit is totaly false. I say this because I remember last year in the preseason game agianst the Falcons, he had a monster game and Williams put him in the right position to do very well. I think it's more of what I said in an earlier post about Snyder, or that Arrington is a victom of his own attitude. When u see him on the sideline he is isolated and not looking over schemes or talking with Williams at all. Maybe he is isolating himself out of a job __________________ That got ugly fast

10-05-2005, 12:11 PM	#4
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) Williams is the man and I think he is just waiting for the right game to unleash Lavar. Lavar is talking alot about how he will do what the coaches want of him and if what we have seen is all we are going to see of Lavar he would not be this patient. I would think as he gets more time in pratice he will be worked into more schemes and he will see more playing time. Money is not a factor its about what the coaches feel is best for the team just like the Brunell situation and we see how thats turned out.

10-05-2005, 12:26 PM	#8
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) I really don't think this has anything to do with Snyder at all. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-05-2005, 12:10 PM	#3
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) Do these "face of the franchise" players understand that this is where a huge contract gets them?

10-05-2005, 12:36 PM	#11
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) Snyder and Arrington are supposedly very tight, I'm not sure how the whole contract dispute thing may have hurt their relationship, but LaVar was a pallbearer at Snyder's father's funeral if that tells you anything. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-05-2005, 12:35 PM	#13
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) It's too easy to use the same 'Dan Snyder ruined the Redskins' excuse. If we have gained anything with the re-hire of Coach Gibbs it's that Dan has taken a back seat to Gibbs. I'd guess at a Lavar Vs. Williams ego clash. Lavar has a problem playing outside of his instictive style, Williams needs him to to perform within the framework. When the circumstances dictate (i.e. we're looking to take a QB out of his rhythm, Mr. Plummer) Lavar will be let loose, lord help the poor bugger on the end of THAT storm.

10-05-2005, 12:40 PM	#14
kinobom Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 9	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) >>Snyder will make his life hell as a Redskin. Maybe what Coles said was true, cause it seems to me that he is carrying it out on Lavar.>> >>So what are the facts??? IMHO, I believe the skins realized that they don't need $11+M tied to one player, when that player is replaceable by a system. Secondly, I think what makes arrington so attractive to alot of teams is also the reason why he is not attractive to Williams/Lindsay.>> Firstly (to the first quote) do we want this kind of Owner? I know, I know... it is a rhetorical question. We are Stuck with him. Secondly - Shouldn't we be thinking about the future? Won't it be about time for Williams to get another chance to be a head coach after this season? What if our next Def. Coordinator prizes LA's Style of play. OBC spermier got rid of Steve Davis and boy, Joe Gibbs sure would have liked to have had SD last year.

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