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[QUOTE=punch it in;1095189]So if he plays out the year similar to the last two weeks than come May we have to make an 18 mill dollar decision. If we do not extend him than what? Does he have the option to stay for his fourth year or go elsewhere for a better offer?


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He's still under contract next year.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1095190]He's still under contract next year.[/QUOTE]


Yes, but we have to make a decision on 2016 before the 2015 season. So...if we decide not to extend him than what? He will just be dead man walking? In other words, what is the worst case scenario for us if we dont extend him? He comes back for 2015 and wins the job (with no extension) plays lights out and than he can go elsewhere if he wants?


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[quote=punch it in;1095191]Yes, but we have to make a decision on 2016 before the 2015 season. So...if we decide not to extend him than what? He will just be dead man walking? In other words, what is the worst case scenario for us if we dont extend him? He comes back for 2015 and wins the job (with no extension) plays lights out and than he can go elsewhere if he wants?


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If no extension, the only way to retain him will be to franchise. If he plays lights out, we franchise and negotiate a deal.

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I would let RG3 play but bring another QB for some serious competition at the starting position. I'm not sure if there are currently any "on the cusp" type of Qbs who are currently second string but could easily be a starter.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1095192]If no extension, the only way to retain him will be to franchise. If he plays lights out, we franchise and negotiate a deal.[/QUOTE]


Thanks JR.


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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1095195]I would let RG3 play but bring another QB for some serious competition at the starting position. I'm not sure if there are currently any "on the cusp" type of Qbs who are currently second string but could easily be a starter.[/QUOTE]


Captain Kirk and Colt 45!
Edit: was joking. But if u took out the word easily....than...


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[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/gruden--rg3--coddled-for-so-long-205304232.html[/url]


Jay dropping more bombs on Robert's ego.


[quote]"His biggest thing, he's been coddled for so long," Gruden said. "It's not a negative, he's just been so good, he just hasn't had a lot of negative publicity. Everybody's loved him. Some adversity is striking hard at him now, and how he reacts to that off the field, his mental state of mind, how it affects his confidence, hopefully it's not in a negative way."[/quote]


[quote]"He's auditioned long enough. Clock's ticking. He's gotta play," Gruden said. "We want Robert to excel, we really do. But the last two games, it hasn't been very good, anywhere. We gotta play better around him. And the biggest thing for us as play-callers, and for him, we just have to come together and jell with plays he's comfortable with. That takes time. But we don't have a lot of time."[/quote]

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Robert's ego clearly has prevented him from becoming the player he should become. I can see it though. You won a Heisman, had a team spend insane amount of picks to draft you, and you hit historic records in your rookie season. It's enough to make your head blow up, but he's soon finding out that nobody gives a fuck about 2012 anymore.

He was propped up in a gimmick offense (which I stated back then) and excelled in. The Shanny's knew that offense wasn't going to last when defenses caught up, and the hits started coming on Robert. The funny thing about it is, that Robert didn't want to run this type of offense long term. He wanted to known as a pocket passer and play maker. Unfortunately for him, he had 0 experience in a pro-style offense which has set him back a good 3-4 years.

The thing I suggested back then was to sit Robert down for a year or two, and let him learn the ropes. Nope. That idea had people rolling their eyes and pointed to the "success" at the latest fads at QB. (newton) Well, look at where we are now. We are at a crossroads, where most likely, Robert will be playing his last year with the Redskins in 2015 all because he was rushed into action long before he was ready. Impatient fans. Impatient owner. They deserve each other really.

He's already assisted with one coach losing his job, and I don't think he survives with Gruden at the helm. Besides, I think his hype (commercials/marketing/logo/etc) have all rubbed some in the locker room the wrong way in terms of him leading that team. Bottom line, if you are going to have that kind of hype, you better be able to back it up. It annoys me to no ends seeing all this marketing on a guy who hasn't done jack shit beyond a flash in the pan rookie year. This foot up the ass is exactly what this kid needs to truly humble him if he's ever going to succeed in this league.

If I were him, I'd cancel all my commercials and marketing gigs until I made it. People keep saying it doesn't play a part in it, but reality says different. He needs to decide if he wants bread crumbs on these small shoe/food deals or if he wants to hit it big with a 150 million contract along with the other types of deals in the wing. We'll see if he even gets that opportunity soon enough.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1095209][URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/gruden--rg3--coddled-for-so-long-205304232.html[/URL]


Jay dropping more bombs on Robert's ego.[/quote]

Gruden is not holding back at all on this. My god. Is he trying to get fired or something? Just shut up about RG3 and go win a game. I agree with everything he's saying 100%, and it's kind of refreshing that the HC is not going along with the bullshit over at Redskins Park...but enough already. He's pouring lighter fluid on an already open fire.

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Honestly, all this crap with the media is undermining my ability to stay a fan. I have followed this team religiously for 40 years. But it is becoming intolerable.

Does anyone think that anyone associated with this team is having fun anymore? Football is supposed to be fun -- with all the sniping, it seems that with 6 games left that folks are just trying to get through the season. I thought that enduring that kind of a season last year was bad -- but this feels worse given the re-start we tried with a new coach.

Everyone STFU and play football.

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[quote=calia;1095221]Honestly, all this crap with the media is undermining my ability to stay a fan. I have followed this team religiously for 40 years. But it is becoming intolerable.

Does anyone think that anyone associated with this team is having fun anymore? Football is supposed to be fun -- with all the sniping, it seems that with 6 games left that folks are just trying to get through the season. I thought that enduring that kind of a season last year was bad -- but this feels worse given the re-start we tried with a new coach.

Everyone STFU and play football.[/quote]


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@SportingParagon · 4h 4 hours ago

Everything this wk has resulted in the top football guy in DC (Gruden) annexing control of the future of the franchise. That's a good thing.[/SIZE][/B]


This sums it up people. It's accurate, and it's what Jay should be doing.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1095209][url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/gruden--rg3--coddled-for-so-long-205304232.html[/url]


Jay dropping more bombs on Robert's ego.[/quote]

I didn't expect this. I thought Jay would drop it. He must have a big pair made out of brass.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1095224]I didn't expect this. I thought Jay would drop it. He must have a big pair made out of brass.[/quote]
I applaud Jay for this. I would think it a potentially high risk posture for him....BUT all the BS feel good crap we have done for the past generation has brought us mostly grief.....So I say...Good on you Jay! HTTR
Shake this shit down this season and find the bottom...go from there

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1095228]I applaud Jay for this. I would think it a potentially high risk posture for him....BUT all the BS feel good crap we have done for the past generation has brought us mostly grief.....So I say...Good on you Jay! HTTR
Shake this shit down this season and find the bottom...go from there[/QUOTE]


Yeah I agree. Im not sure about his x's and o's yet. However, I love how blunt and honest he is. Bout time someone atleast said "we suck", not a bunch of bullshit lies and false promises. To me that means that the guy gives a shit. He is real about the situation. I, as a fan, actually appreciate the strait answers. Dont have to listen to some a-hole dance around the issues.


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If there's anyone left on RG3's bandwagon, this should clear it out:

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-film-review--robert-griffin-iii-s-issues-214738329.html[/url]

I still want to believe in RG3 and I want him to be successful as a Redskin, but the prospect of doing a complete rebuild job of him as a qb is not exciting at all. I don't know that the fanbase or the FO would be willing to accept the time it would take to accomplish that either.