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[quote=Chico23231;1171806]Well, the Juice is loose[/quote]

I believe he is not released until October.....

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/07/24/cowboys-lucky-whitehead-arrested-warrant-issued-for-shoplifting/]Cowboys’ Lucky Whitehead arrested, warrant issued for shoplifting | ProFootballTalk[/url]

jesus...seriously? There is an effing new Cowboy arrested or being investigated for a crime every week.

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[quote=Chico23231;1171874][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/07/24/cowboys-lucky-whitehead-arrested-warrant-issued-for-shoplifting/]Cowboys’ Lucky Whitehead arrested, warrant issued for shoplifting | ProFootballTalk[/url]

jesus...seriously? There is an effing new Cowboy arrested or being investigated for a crime every week.[/quote]

Lucky was cleared, how would you feel about picking him up?

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[quote=mitch e;1171926]Lucky was cleared, how would you feel about picking him up?[/quote]

No problem with picking him up.

[url]https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/07/25/cowboys-just-embarrassed-police-bungling-lucky-whitehead-situation[/url]

Cowboys completely screwed this up

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Its hilarious that all of a sudden the Cowboys are tough on crime with several high profile violent and domestic violence incidents in the court now.

lol...

Here’s just a part of the transcript:


On whether he regrets Whitehead’s being cut and whether he will address the team about the move:

Garrett: Yesterday we made a decision that was deemed to be in the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys. We’re standing by that decision. We’re going to move on.

On whether the decision to cut Whitehead was based on the idea of the arrest:

Garrett: Yesterday we made a decision we felt was the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys. We’re going to stand by that decision. We’re going to move on.

On whether it is fair to Whitehead to say the same thing over and over:

Garrett: It’s the truth. We made a decision we felt was in the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys.

On whether there are some people working for the Dallas Cowboys who are just too stupid to work for this team:

Garrett: I’ll stand by the statement that I made. We made a decision yesterday that we felt was in the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys. We’re going to stand by that decision. We’re going to move forward.

On sending the wrong message by rushing to judgment:

Garrett: Yesterday we made a decision that we felt that was in the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Garrett didn't make any decision. He just does what Jerry tells him to do.

I'm really starting to HATE the Cowboys. Before I just disliked them but now I just hate those son of a bitches. Jason Garrett is a bitch. He would wipe Jerry Jones ass if Jerry told him to. Does the guy have a set of balls? Or does Jerry hold them and tell Garrett when he can go take a leak. And that asshole Elliot doing that stupid feed me shit, and pulling down women's shirts in public.

I want them to go 5-11 in the worst way. I want to see them implode. And everytime I turn on NFLN they're all up the Cowboys nuts. It's seriously annoying as hell.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1171934]Garrett didn't make any decision. He just does what Jerry tells him to do.

I'm really starting to HATE the Cowboys. Before I just disliked them but now I just hate those son of a bitches. Jason Garrett is a bitch. He would wipe Jerry Jones ass if Jerry told him to. Does the guy have a set of balls? Or does Jerry hold them and tell Garrett when he can go take a leak. And that asshole Elliot doing that stupid feed me shit, and pulling down women's shirts in public.

I want them to go 5-11 in the worst way. I want to see them implode. And everytime I turn on NFLN they're all up the Cowboys nuts. It's seriously annoying as hell.[/quote]

the hilarity here is Jerry and sons didn't complete any type of due diligence and cuts someone because they think essentially he is a bad character and will send a message.

This is the same organization that hands Greg Hardy a job and drafts pieces of shit like Randy Gregory.

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I am not this guys biggest fan but I give credit when it is due.



[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/52453/odell-beckham-jr-makes-special-trip-to-visit-sick-texas-boy]Odell Beckham Jr. makes special trip to visit sick Texas boy - New York Giants Blog- ESPN[/url]




and then the the Cowboy fans jump in his shit in traffic(lol) Just take the good with the bad.


[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/odell-beckham-jr-bombarded-cowboys-chants-traffic-article-1.3353335[/url]

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OBJ can blow me.....

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1171942]OBJ can blow me.....[/quote]

Your sexual orientation is no business of mine,if your gay be proud of it!:grouphug:

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[quote=Giantone;1171939][B]I am not this guys biggest fan [/B]but I give credit when it is due.



[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/52453/odell-beckham-jr-makes-special-trip-to-visit-sick-texas-boy]Odell Beckham Jr. makes special trip to visit sick Texas boy - New York Giants Blog- ESPN[/url]




and then the the Cowboy fans jump in his shit in traffic(lol) Just take the good with the bad.


[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/odell-beckham-jr-bombarded-cowboys-chants-traffic-article-1.3353335[/url][/quote]

So full of shit. You probably have your hair appointment to put your matching blond streak in for the season. talk about gay

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Good Morning to you too!No ,I am just trying to keep my hair from falling out let alone dye it.:cheers



...........and lets remember I was not the one who talked about getting his #### sucked,just sayin.:)

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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20170808/baltimore-ravens-offensive-lineman-john-urschel-retires-abruptly]Baltimore Ravens offensive lineman John Urschel retires abruptly[/url]

wow...and that report was fairly scary

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[quote=skinsfan69;1171934]Garrett didn't make any decision. He just does what Jerry tells him to do.

I'm really starting to HATE the Cowboys. Before I just disliked them but now I just hate those son of a bitches. Jason Garrett is a bitch. He would wipe Jerry Jones ass if Jerry told him to. Does the guy have a set of balls? Or does Jerry hold them and tell Garrett when he can go take a leak. And that asshole Elliot doing that stupid feed me shit, and pulling down women's shirts in public.

I want them to go 5-11 in the worst way. I want to see them implode. And everytime I turn on NFLN they're all up the Cowboys nuts. It's seriously annoying as hell.[/quote]

It really is like that with every NFL team. The coach works for the owner. You cannot tell me that if Snyder tells Gruden something, that Gruden will not listen.

Issue is here, the owner is the GM. And if the GM decides to release a player, the player gets released. I am not reading too much into Whitehead getting released. He was on his way out anyway when they drafted Ryan Switzer.

Whitehead was 6th on the depth chart.....6th. You can find a 6th WR at an intersection holding a cardboard sign. I cannot believe the media is getting so wrapped around the axle on a #6 Wide Receiver.

As a fan of Dallas, I am not proud of all of the off-field issues. But I wonder if people really do care about it? The Cowboys lead the league (by a HUGE margin) in player suspensions. But, even considering that, all they have done is grow in popularity and revenue. 5 years ago, Forbes reported they were the 5th most popular sports franchise in the world valued at 2.1 billion. In 2017 Forbes lists them as the #1 most popular sports franchise in the world at 4.2 billion. If people really cared about this, one would think they would shy away from them because of the off-field issues. But it is apparently quite the opposite.

For me, the most important ability is availability. If you can't be on the field to contribute, you are not contributing and need to make changes. Either in your off field life, or, a new team.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1171964]It really is like that with every NFL team. The coach works for the owner. You cannot tell me that if Snyder tells Gruden something, that Gruden will not listen.

Issue is here, the owner is the GM. And if the GM decides to release a player, the player gets released. I am not reading too much into Whitehead getting released. He was on his way out anyway when they drafted Ryan Switzer.

Whitehead was 6th on the depth chart.....6th. You can find a 6th WR at an intersection holding a cardboard sign. I cannot believe the media is getting so wrapped around the axle on a #6 Wide Receiver.

As a fan of Dallas, I am not proud of all of the off-field issues. But I wonder if people really do care about it? The Cowboys lead the league (by a HUGE margin) in player suspensions. But, even considering that, all they have done is grow in popularity and revenue.[B] 5 years ago, Forbes reported they were the 5th most popular sports franchise in the world valued at 2.1 billion. In 2017 Forbes lists them as the #1 most popular sports franchise in the world at 4.2 billion. If people really cared about this, one would think they would shy away from them because of the off-field issues. But it is apparently quite the opposite.[/B]
For me, the most important ability is availability. If you can't be on the field to contribute, you are not contributing and need to make changes. Either in your off field life, or, a new team.[/quote]

Its like they are the Donald Trump of teams...zero class and character as a franchise, and a slinking respect from most the country. But hey, you got money...

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[quote=Chico23231;1171955][url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20170808/baltimore-ravens-offensive-lineman-john-urschel-retires-abruptly]Baltimore Ravens offensive lineman John Urschel retires abruptly[/url]

wow...and that report was fairly scary[/quote]

Yes i agree 100%. For such a young guy considering, he made the right decision, IMO. We know so much more now about CTE than we did even five years ago. It is sad in one regard because if you believe the experts, you have some players that are showing early signs of CTE when they are still young adults in high school.

I worry about it sometimes too, because I played football from early in my life, all the way through middle school and through high school. After high school while in college, i got into boxing, having dozens of amateur fights. Some boxers i knew had already had 100 amateur fights before even turning pro. I experimented in MMA between 2007 and 2010, training in BJJ, already having a long background in Kenpo Karate. The "gym fights" are the ones you don't hear about and I obviously took major licks as all aspiring fighters do. I broke my neck after college and didn't even know about it at the time, only finding out when I failed my physical in 2010 just before I was going to have my first MMA fight as a professional, and had a fractured C7 vertebrae. I had been in a car accident a few years earlier when the injury happened, i didn't even know it at the time and i thought at the time my symptoms were just whiplash.

I am 100% healthy now and feel the best i've felt in years, and sometimes the desire to compete again is pretty strong. But what i know now about neck injuries, as well as CTE, i probably will never have another fight besides maybe some very light gym sparring and grappling. If I was not married, the desire to compete would probably be stronger but i am not going to tempt fate now. Prayers to anyone going through injuries / concerned about CTE....

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1171965]Its like they are the Donald Trump of teams...zero class and character as a franchise, and a slinking respect from most the country. But hey, you got money...[/QUOTE]



And they talk a lot about winning but never actually do lol

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[quote=Chico23231;1171965]Its like they are the Donald Trump of teams...zero class and character as a franchise, and a slinking respect from most the country. But hey, you got money...[/quote]
Evidently, you've missed my point or I did not communicate it correctly.

Even with all the player issues/problems and suspensions all across the NFL, viewership and revenues continue to skyrocket. My example is the Cowboys lap the field when it comes to player suspensions. But they also lap the field in fan based revenue. Just check top jersey sales. People really don't care.

The owners and the league are getting richer by the minute. From their perspective, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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So keep beating women, using drugs, committing petty theft, and pulling guns on folks?

And the GM/Owner continue to lie and protect these type of people.

And the argument for is money. Its really more of a rationalization than argument. Your rationalizing Jerry's behavior of accepting into the cowboys really shit people who continue to embarrass the organization.

Its ok, but ill continue to call bullshit by Jerry and his nutless coach when I see.

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[quote=Chico23231;1171977]So keep beating women, using drugs, committing petty theft, and pulling guns on folks?

And the GM/Owner continue to lie and protect these type of people.

And the argument for is money. Its really more of a rationalization than argument. Your rationalizing Jerry's behavior of accepting into the cowboys really shit people who continue to embarrass the organization.

Its ok, but ill continue to call bullshit by Jerry and his nutless coach when I see.[/quote]
And yet again, you missed my point. Ignore my avatar for a moment and try and engage in this from a neutral perspective. I think that little blue star is giving you tunnel vision.

I used the Cowboys as an EXAMPLE. My point is revenue and viewership is always on the rise across the ENTIRE NFL. Not just Dallas. If suspensions, PEDs, dope smoking are "so bad and detrimental" to the league as a whole, then why is business so damn good?

No one really cares.

Anyone else notice all of these new 2 billion dollar stadiums getting built across the league? Revenue is up no matter who is smoking dope, getting arrested, on trial, cheating, taking PEDs.

Hell, Mike Vicks popularity was ENHANCED after he was convicted of a FELONY and imprisoned. He had no problem finding work. Stadiums sold out, games were played, the league moved on. No one cared that he was a convicted felon.

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We might need a TMZ type thread ....

Heard some really good things about Doctson yesterday. Apparently, his foot work is really really good. Heard about this complicated route he ran where he turned Bree around twice then made a sliding catch.

"He displayed great footwork, particularly as he put a move on Bashaud Breeland at the line and ran free for a catch. Later, Doctson showed good speed as he raced by Quinton Dunbar on a deep throw up the left sideline. Doctson consistently created separation on his routes and made tough catches at times."

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/07/28/three-things-we-learned-from-day-1-of-redskins-training-camp/?utm_term=.0d7f1bb76b22[/url]

Madden gave Jonathan Allen the lowest grade for a 1st rounder at 73 ... wtf. also reddick got a 73. I know madden ratings mean nothing in real life but dang, that hurts my madden team.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1171980]And yet again, you missed my point. Ignore my avatar for a moment and try and engage in this from a neutral perspective. I think that little blue star is giving you tunnel vision.

I used the Cowboys as an EXAMPLE. My point is revenue and viewership is always on the rise across the ENTIRE NFL. Not just Dallas. If suspensions, PEDs, dope smoking are "so bad and detrimental" to the league as a whole, then why is business so damn good?

No one really cares.

Anyone else notice all of these new 2 billion dollar stadiums getting built across the league? Revenue is up no matter who is smoking dope, getting arrested, on trial, cheating, taking PEDs.

Hell, Mike Vicks popularity was ENHANCED after he was convicted of a FELONY and imprisoned. He had no problem finding work. Stadiums sold out, games were played, the league moved on. No one cared that he was a convicted felon.[/quote]

your moving the argument and trying to change the discussion...and its not working.

My original statements have zero to do with revenue, jersey sales or whatever. Im clearly commenting on the mishandling of the Cowboys situation of Lucky dipshit. The complete hypocrisy of the Cowboys particular with this situation and the facts their handling of personnel of recent past.

you came in and say "look at this over here with revenues, jersey sales and typically dumb shit" and then try to umbrella everything including my comments and say "no big deal".

Your rationalizing...I said, you can do this if you want. Lots of folks do this to justify thinking. It works for some.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1171976]Evidently, you've missed my point or I did not communicate it correctly.

Even with all the player issues/problems and suspensions all across the NFL, viewership and revenues continue to skyrocket. My example is the Cowboys lap the field when it comes to player suspensions. But they also lap the field in fan based revenue. Just check top jersey sales. People really don't care.

The owners and the league are getting richer by the minute. From their perspective, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.[/quote]

of course actions don't matter, In 1987 Pablo Escobar was hugely popular and at one time and elected official, and named to Forbes 20 richest people list. So of course money and fame is all that matters.

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Looks like Ryan Tennehill has re-tweaked his knee.
The Colin Clapyerdick sweepstakes may be in full swing.

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Dang- Blaine Gabbert looks like a rock start tonight against the cowgirls

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Smokin Jay is back...one of the best websites in the world is relevant again:

[url=http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com]Smokin' Jay Cutler[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1171986]your moving the argument and trying to change the discussion...and its not working.

Im clearly commenting on the mishandling of the Cowboys situation of Lucky dipshit. [/quote]

You're right. Of course you're right. What was I thinking?

Congrats BTW of the handling of the whole Scot McCloughan thing. Masterful.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1172160]You're right. Of course you're right. What was I thinking?

Congrats BTW of the handling of the whole Scot McCloughan thing. Masterful.[/quote]

I don't post much, but I've read your stuff for over a decade now. And while you're certainly not the most offensive Cowboys fan I know, you're the one here on a Redskins board. So don't be too surprised when you don't always get a warm, fuzzy welcome here. Your arguments are obviously tainted blue, as ours are B & G. But this is our home, not yours.

So I wonder, other than to aggravate us, what in the h--- are you doing here?

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I want to see Elliot get 6 games. Dude is a straight up punk.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1172162]I want to see Elliot get 6 games. Dude is a straight up punk.[/quote]

The way Zeke uses his spoon...you can tell he knows how to empty a bowl of dicks.

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[quote=chico23231;1172164]the way zeke uses his spoon...you can tell he knows how to empty a bowl of dicks.[/quote]

bahahahaha!

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Didn't Elliot show up to the draft with a half shirt and pink pants? Dude is such a clown show.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1172180]Didn't Elliot show up to the draft with a half shirt and pink pants? Dude is such a clown show.[/quote]

I do remember he was wearing a belly shirt and I do remember him saying something about meeting Odell Beckham later to go get their toes painted