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I found this.

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/03/only-five-teams-below-85-percent-vaccination-threshold/[/url]

"The NFL reports that 90 percent of NFL players are at least partially vaccinated. The league hit that mark today, spokesman Brian McCarthy tweeted.

Nine teams have more than 95 percent of their players vaccinated, and 27 teams are above the 85 percent threshold."

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[quote=Schneed10;1287984]Where you're going wrong though is failing to think of it in the aggregate.

All three of these statements are true:

1) The more people the virus spreads to, the greater the chances the virus will mutate to form new variants.

2) When the virus encounters vaccinated hosts, it gives rise to the possibility for new variants, as it adapts to survive and continue to replicate.

3) The impact of 1 above is greater than the impact of 2 above, so that if more people are vaccinated, on the aggregate, you reduce the potential for new variants to form.[/quote]


:thumbsup:

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[quote=punch it in;1287974]What is the threshold the nfl wants?[/quote]

110%

Football is always 110%

And if you're on time you're late.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1287989]110%

Football is always 110%

And if you're on time you're late.[/quote]

lol coach Coughlin would be proud

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Ryan Tannehill to the COVID list.

It sure seems like COVID will hit some team at the wrong time, and WFT still seems one of the likeliest candidates.

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According to this article 4 teams are below 89%, but they don't specify which 4.

[url]https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2021/08/25/four-nfl-teams-below-89-percent-covid-19-vaccine-cole-beasley/[/url]



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Since Matty thought the name thread was to groundhog day'ish I figured I could bring this one out of retirement too!

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-union-agree-to-more-covid-testing-amid-delta-surge-but-nflpa-wants-more-030330303.html[/url]

The NFLPA wants daily testing, the NFL doesn't. I think daily testing for everyone with simple contact prevention methods for positive tests (not the draconian one unvaxxed players face) would be the smartest solution. Also the article mentions masks are required again for everyone in certain situations

[Quote]Among other changes, the new protocols also require that vaccinated staff members*wear masks when interacting with players*and*everyone to wear a mask in closed quarters*such as buses and planes.[/Quote]

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“People tend to focus on testing, but it’s very important that we realize, testing is not prevention,” Sills said, per the Tallahassee Democrat. “Testing is not preventing anyone from transmitting the virus. It is one part of our mitigation strategy but it’s not the key part."

- NFL Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen Sills

Sills pointed to "other mitigation measures such as masking and the avoidance of in-person meetings and in-person meals" as key steps to slowing transmission.

DUMB...

So let's have the players practice and play as a team on the field, sharing each others blood and sweat, but avoid in-person meals and meetings so we don't have to test them more often.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1288518]“People tend to focus on testing, but it’s very important that we realize, testing is not prevention,” Sills said, per the Tallahassee Democrat. “Testing is not preventing anyone from transmitting the virus. It is one part of our mitigation strategy but it’s not the key part."

- NFL Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen Sills

Sills pointed to "other mitigation measures such as masking and the avoidance of in-person meetings and in-person meals" as key steps to slowing transmission.

DUMB...

So let's have the players practice and play as a team on the field, sharing each others blood and sweat, but avoid in-person meals and meetings so we don't have to test them more often.[/quote]

This should be an interesting read when I wake up tomorrow.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1288518]“People tend to focus on testing, but it’s very important that we realize, testing is not prevention,” Sills said, per the Tallahassee Democrat. “Testing is not preventing anyone from transmitting the virus. It is one part of our mitigation strategy but it’s not the key part."



- NFL Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen Sills



Sills pointed to "other mitigation measures such as masking and the avoidance of in-person meetings and in-person meals" as key steps to slowing transmission.



DUMB...



So let's have the players practice and play as a team on the field, sharing each others blood and sweat, but avoid in-person meals and meetings so we don't have to test them more often.[/QUOTE]

Testing seems far more key to me. I don't get the nfl's reluctance.

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Agreed.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288520]Testing seems far more key to me. I don't get the nfl's reluctance.

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Assuming the NFL doesn't want to cancel position meetings and on-field contact it would seem testing would be a bigger part of the equation now.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1288518]“[B]People tend to focus on testing, but it’s very important that we realize, testing is not prevention,” Sills said, per the Tallahassee Democrat. “Testing is not preventing anyone from transmitting the virus.[/B] It is one part of our mitigation strategy but it’s not the key part."

- NFL Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen Sills

Sills pointed to "other mitigation measures such as masking and the avoidance of in-person meetings and in-person meals" as key steps to slowing transmission.

DUMB...

So let's have the players practice and play as a team on the field, sharing each others blood and sweat, but avoid in-person meals and meetings so we don't have to test them more often.[/quote]

This guy is a doctor? Hey, I'm no doctor, but it seems pretty damned obvious that testing does, in fact, prevent transmission. When someone tests positive they are immediately self-quarantined, which quite obviously prevents the person from transmitting the virus to others. Duh.

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Yes it is messages like this from Doctors and Scientists that is is part of the cause of some mistrust in experts. I assume he he is trying to say that testing is no substitute for Vaccination, but didn't do a good job.

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Aight, what’s our vax rate now?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1286643]Me in fall 2022 getting flu and covid booster shots at the same time.

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Omaha, Omaha, I'd liked to audible this to late fall/early winter of 2021.

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Covid ain’t slowing up college ball .. just watched Georgia game .. packed house , never saw a mask ..elbow to elbow … then I turn over to news and I’m reminded the end is near … oh wait a minute I just saw one guy hugging another that did have a mask .. it makes you think ..so they force people to wear mask.. you can get fired for not getting Vax and yet the Big MONEY NCAA can have prime time match up and completely be null and void of any covid protocol… makes no sense at all …

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Thought I would share my families current situation just for knowledge sake. My wife and I who are both vaccinated, just tested positive for the virus along with our 11 year old son. Our daughter who is 13 tested negative, but she just took the first vaccine shot 2 weeks ago. I actually had been dealing with a sinus infection from allergy issues for the last 3 weeks, got tested during that and was negative. We still wore masks in the grocery stores and all...and haven't been around many people for the most part. We can't help but think that our son got this from football practice...but obviously we'll never know. But this thing ain't going away no time soon...vaccinated or not.

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So much for the Dallas Cowboys’ hopes of finally being at full strength for Thursday’s season opener against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

On the same day that left guard Connor Williams returned to practice after being activated off the NFL’s COVID-19 list, coach Mike McCarthy announced that Pro Bowl right guard Zack Martin will miss the Buccaneers game after testing positive for COVID-19.

Martin is fully vaccinated but the NFL return-to-play protocols make it impossible for him to be cleared before Thursday.

A fully vaccinated player can return to play in five days if he does not have symptoms following two negative tests separated by 24 hours. An unvaccinated player faces at least a 10-day quarantine.

“He’s frustrated obviously,” coach Mike McCarthy said. “But, hey, this is the world we live in right now.”

Read more here: [url]https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article254022353.html#storylink=cpy[/url]

Im not doing a Nelson "ha ha" here bc I think we will miss random guys at random times this season as well.

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[quote=SunnySide;1289083]So much for the Dallas Cowboys’ hopes of finally being at full strength for Thursday’s season opener against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

On the same day that left guard Connor Williams returned to practice after being activated off the NFL’s COVID-19 list, coach Mike McCarthy announced that Pro Bowl right guard Zack Martin will miss the Buccaneers game after testing positive for COVID-19.

Martin is fully vaccinated but the NFL return-to-play protocols make it impossible for him to be cleared before Thursday.

A fully vaccinated player can return to play in five days if he does not have symptoms following two negative tests separated by 24 hours. An unvaccinated player faces at least a 10-day quarantine.

“He’s frustrated obviously,” coach Mike McCarthy said. “But, hey, this is the world we live in right now.”

Read more here: [url]https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article254022353.html#storylink=cpy[/url]

Im not doing a Nelson "ha ha" here bc I think we will miss random guys at random times this season as well.[/quote]

Absolutely no doubt about it, we will have guys miss games due to COVID and/or the protocols.

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Since Covid is rearing its head, I figured I would pull this thread back up.
37 positive tests in one day.
[url]https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2250855[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1289084]Absolutely no doubt about it, we will have guys miss games due to COVID and/or the protocols.[/quote]

Wise words from SD here.

Thanks Montez.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1303878]Wise words from SD here.



Thanks Montez.[/QUOTE]The blame game is so lame. Every team has had Covid outs, Dallas had half their coaching staff out at one point and they were a highly valued team. Until this last week we were one of the least affected teams.

This is just the world we live in right now.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1303879]The blame game is so lame. Every team has had Covid outs, Dallas had half their coaching staff out at one point and they were a highly valued team. Until this last week we were one of the least affected teams.

This is just the world we live in right now.

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The excuse game is so lame, Sweat will pump cocktails all day for any edge that isn't illegal but he won't take a shot that billions of people the world over have just to guarantee he doesn't have to miss two games? Weak.

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And it's a huge difference with vaccinated vs not as far as being able to get back into the lineup more quickly. If you're vaccinated two negative tests in a 24 hr period and you're back. Non vaccinated you're out 10 days at a minimum. So let's not just toss up our hands and say oh well, this is just our world right now.

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Pretty clear it was Montez who spread it?

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[quote=Chico23231;1303884]Pretty clear it was Montez who spread it?[/quote]

What exactly makes that clear?

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[quote]Absolutely no doubt about it, we will have guys miss games due to COVID and/or the protocols.[/quote]

[quote=mooby;1303878]Wise words from SD here.

Thanks Montez.[/quote]

I wouldn't say that's exactly Nostradamus-like. It was pretty inevitable for all teams.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1303895]I wouldn't say that's exactly Nostradamus-like. It was pretty inevitable for all teams.[/quote]

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[quote=Chico23231;1303884]Pretty clear it was Montez who spread it?[/quote]

This isn't clear at all. It's just picking the lowest hanging fruit.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1303895]I wouldn't say that's exactly Nostradamus-like. It was pretty inevitable for all teams.[/quote]

I'm just giving kudos to an accurate prediction - not saying he predicted something against the odds.

It's classic Redskins - we waste half the season playing mediocre football, get our shit together for a month and then when we're in the thick of the playoff fight we lose half our d-line to the covid list. Really only one conclusion I can draw.

Fuck Dan Snyder.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1303901]This isn't clear at all. It's just picking the lowest hanging fruit.[/quote]

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This exchange is one of the biggest L I’ve ever heard.

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Allen is + and uncertain for the Eagles game.

[url]https://wtop.com/washington-football/2021/12/jonathan-allen-tests-positive-for-covid-19-status-uncertain-for-eagles-games/[/url]

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[quote=mooby;1303904]I'm just giving kudos to an accurate prediction - not saying he predicted something against the odds.

It's classic Redskins - we waste half the season playing mediocre football, get our shit together for a month and then when we're in the thick of the playoff fight we lose half our d-line to the covid list. Really only one conclusion I can draw.

[B]Fuck Dan Snyder.[/B][/quote]

I'll always be in that boat...

It is frustrating now doubt.

With Montez though, I don't think there was any guarantee he was going to play against the Cowboys, just coming off a broken jaw and not having practiced at all in over a month. He may or may not be available this weekend, but again he hasn't been on the practice field yet - to my knowledge.

There's an uptick in cases all over the planet though, so this isn't something that is isolated to WFT. Every team has been hit, some harder than others. Contrary to what some want to believe, this [I]is[/I] just our world right now.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1303880]The excuse game is so lame, Sweat will pump cocktails all day for any edge that isn't illegal but he won't take a shot that billions of people the world over have just to guarantee he doesn't have to miss two games? Weak.[/QUOTE]I am not excusing Sweat, but I am not blaming him for the spread because we don't know that. Any player can carry and spread it, the vaccine mitigates its effects and that's a good thing. The NFL has a two tiered structure which in my opinion is unjustified. It made sense when the vaccine was hoped to be a limiter, but it isn't so why separate rules for the two groups.

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Montez vaxxed or not .... covid at some point during the season was inevitable.

I dont blame Montez for this.

I do blame the unvaxxed players bc I do think it limits how effective they can be in the film room, weight room and in their unit groups. UNvaxxed players cant eat with their team, have to have special times in weight room, limits on how many in a film room?

No doubt unvaxxed players took away from prep time and quality of prep time.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1303908]There's an uptick in cases all over the planet though, so this isn't something that is isolated to WFT. Every team has been hit, some harder than others. Contrary to what some want to believe, this [I]is[/I] just our world right now.[/quote]

Yeah, 25 active players and 11 on PS alone, never mind staff having contracted it. Blaming any one player isn't constructive (how do we know he didn't contract it from, say, a staffer?), and blaming their vax status for contracting it is missing the point; vax helps at least prevent the worst effects setting in, and to some extent slowing the spreading of the virus, so its a good thing. But while it may stop you being a carrier/infected, that's not guaranteed. Everyone one should consider everyone else and get vaxxed, but I don't like the idea of forcing vaccination.

[URL="https://www.nfl.com/news/36-players-placed-on-reserve-covid-19-list-due-to-positive-tests-washington-staf"]https://www.nfl.com/news/36-players-placed-on-reserve-covid-19-list-due-to-positive-tests-washington-staf[/URL]

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Unvaccinated people are much more likely to spread it than vaccinated, that’s just a fact

Seemed like to me Sweat got popped and then all these other guys mostly other DEs and Allen had to sit cause of getting it or close contact.

Seems like Sweat is likely the spreader right?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1303914]Seems like Sweat is likely the spreader right?[/QUOTE]

That's pure speculation.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1303915]That's pure speculation.[/quote]

Spreadculation - internet experts best guesses to blame missed games, practices,etc. on the the inability to properly source the covid patient zero in a football team. Related: Internet Doctors, internet Virologist