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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1303914]Unvaccinated people are much more likely to spread it than vaccinated, that’s just a fact

Seemed like to me Sweat got popped and then all these other guys mostly other DEs and Allen had to sit cause of getting it or close contact.

Seems like Sweat is likely the spreader right?[/QUOTE]


Hadn’t really thought about them being mostly d line guys. Speculation? Of course. Speculation that also makes a whole lot of sense? Most definitely.

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Unvaxxed players that test negative but came in close contact with a positive test player (Sweat, Allen) have to quarantine for 5 days.

We know Allen tested positive ... if some DL guys are unvaxxed but test negative, they only are out 5 days.

Radio said about 20% of players who were vaxxed but tested positive returned before the 10 days bc they had 2 negative tests within 24 hours.

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The team went from the beginning of August to mid-December without any COVID issues. There is an increase in cases literally everywhere lately, so it makes sense that there would also be an increase in cases throughout the NFL.

In a span of five days three D linemen, two LBs, and a TE were placed on the Reserve/COVID-19 list, and a staffer tested positive. I don't understand the point of trying to determine who was "patient zero".

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1303923]The team went from the beginning of August to mid-December without any COVID issues. There is an increase in cases literally everywhere lately, so it makes sense that there would also be an increase in cases throughout the NFL.

In a span of five days three D linemen, two LBs, and a TE were placed on the Reserve/COVID-19 list, and a staffer tested positive. I don't understand the point of trying to determine who was "patient zero".[/QUOTE]


Well I think the point was that Sweats decision not to get vaccinated might cost us a game or two. Possibly the playoffs. I said might because like you said it is speculation. But also like Chico said it spreads easier from the unvaxxed (sweat).

So, all thoughts on personal choice aside, it is definitely a possibility that Sweats personal choice can maybe cost us wins and or the playoffs. Makes me wonder why, if you know a player is unvaccinated that u allow him to be around the team and possibly affect others? I mean with Rodgers it’s obvious. They would lose without him. We don’t exactly need sweat to win games. Just a shitty situation if he took down others with himself. Nobody can force him to get vaccinated but couldn’t they have just kept him away from the team? We could really use those other d linemen.

Edit: fyi im trying to be as cordial as possible and leave my thoughts on personal choice / vaccines out of the equation before this conversation goes south. Hope it comes across that way.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1303901]This isn't clear at all. It's just picking the lowest hanging fruit.[/QUOTE]


Well if we know the unvaccinated can spread it easier, and we know Sweat is unvaccinated, and we know that others on the d line who are vaccinated did get it, than i think it is a pretty safe bet.
I just think that if you are unvaccinated it should be an option to keep the guy/guys away from the facility. Strictly based on business here not my feelings about choosing to remain unvaccinated.

If I am on the same page as chico and it isn’t about football or music it has to be more than just low hanging fruit. Lol

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[QUOTE=MTK;1303882]And it's a huge difference with vaccinated vs not as far as being able to get back into the lineup more quickly. If you're vaccinated two negative tests in a 24 hr period and you're back. Non vaccinated you're out 10 days at a minimum. So let's not just toss up our hands and say oh well, this is just our world right now.[/QUOTE]


Everyone doing their best to act like there is just nothing we can do.

[IMG]https://media4.giphy.com/media/xT5LMGfQrJPpmXKUEM/giphy.gif[/IMG]

Reminds me of that old adage,…

Guy is on his roof because the town is flooded. A boat comes along and the guy says “no thanks God will save me”.
Helicopter comes “no thanks God will save me”.
Guy drowns and goes to heaven and asks God why he didn’t save him?
God says I sent a boat and a helicopter dude.

Vaccines are our boat / helicopter out of this mess but we gonna sit on the roof and curse covid instead.

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[quote=punch it in;1303924]Well I think the point was that Sweats decision not to get vaccinated might cost us a game or two. Possibly the playoffs. I said might because like you said it is speculation. But also like Chico said it spreads easier from the unvaxxed (sweat).

So, all thoughts on personal choice aside, it is definitely a possibility that Sweats personal choice can maybe cost us wins and or the playoffs. Makes me wonder why, if you know a player is unvaccinated that u allow him to be around the team and possibly affect others? I mean with Rodgers it’s obvious. They would lose without him. We don’t exactly need sweat to win games. Just a shitty situation if he took down others with himself. Nobody can force him to get vaccinated but couldn’t they have just kept him away from the team? We could really use those other d linemen.

Edit: fyi im trying to be as cordial as possible and leave my thoughts on personal choice / vaccines out of the equation before this conversation goes south. [B]Hope it comes across that way.[/B][/quote]

It does, and I'm not interested in taking the conversation south. I just think it's pointless to try to pin this "outbreak" on one person, and then blame him for costing the team games / potential playoff berth. They lost to Dallas because Dallas was the better team for 50 minutes of that game. Sweat wasn't going to change that. Hell, people have been going on and on here about how the defense has played better without him and CY. The defense wasn't even close to the reason why they lost that game. We don't know who is playing on Sunday yet, or who is going to win, but the loss is already seemingly Sweat's fault...

To me it's like blaming my wife for causing my daughter to miss her choir solo, because she tested positive for COVID - which required my daughter to to quarantine due to being a close contact. It wasn't my wife's fault she contracted COVID. It's just our world right now.

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[quote=punch it in;1303925]Well if we know the unvaccinated can spread it easier, and we know Sweat is unvaccinated, and we know that others on the d line who are vaccinated did get it, than i think it is a pretty safe bet.
I just think that if you are unvaccinated it should be an option to keep the guy/guys away from the facility. Strictly based on business here not my feelings about choosing to remain unvaccinated.

[B]If I am on the same page as chico and it isn’t about football or music it has to be more than just low hanging fruit. Lol[/B][/quote]

This is actually a very compelling argument. My mind is blown.

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/cagDjQ-WgVQAAAAM/michael-richards-mindblown.gif[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1303932]It does, and I'm not interested in taking the conversation south. I just think it's pointless to try to pin this "outbreak" on one person, and then blame him for costing the team games / potential playoff berth. They lost to Dallas because Dallas was the better team for 50 minutes of that game. Sweat wasn't going to change that. Hell, people have been going on and on here about how the defense has played better without him and CY. The defense wasn't even close to the reason why they lost that game. We don't know who is playing on Sunday yet, or who is going to win, but the loss is already seemingly Sweat's fault...

To me it's like blaming my wife for causing my daughter to miss her choir solo, because she tested positive for COVID - which required my daughter to to quarantine due to being a close contact. It wasn't my wife's fault she contracted COVID. It's just our world right now.[/QUOTE]


Well to be fair, I again, as much as i want to, am leaving Sweats personal decision alone. So Let’s look at like this instead. You’re wife decides not to get vaccinated like Sweat. She proceeds to spend time around the choir, and several other choir members get it. Now the choir cannot function to the best of it’s ability.
Maybe Sweat, or your wife should have stayed away from the team/choir?
Which brings us back to speculation about whether
Sweat is the guy who infected the others.

As far as Sweat being the reason we lost or might lose….
I said earlier that Sweat alone isn’t costing us games, but the others that he infected along with himself..,well that could very well cost us games. You wanna not get vaccinated? Stay away from the team.

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Ok, because I thought you said that the point was that Sweat's decision not to get vaccinated might cost us a game or two, and possibly the playoffs, but I see that you meant that he could take down others because of his decision.

Anyway, the NFL says he doesn't have to stay away from the team, he just has to follow different rules than those that are vaccinated. Just like Aaron Rodgers, who seemingly gets a pass because of who he is and what he means to his team. I'm sure if Aaron Rodgers was on this team, the tune a lot of people are singing in here would be different.

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You know how they say the best ability is availability, well by not getting vaccinated Sweat put his availability in jeopardy, and here we are. It's not about blaming him, it's just the reality of the situation. We needed all hands on deck against Dallas. Very frustrating all around.

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[quote=MTK;1303942]You know how they say the best ability is availability, well by not getting vaccinated Sweat put his availability in jeopardy, and here we are. It's not about blaming him, it's just the reality of the situation. We needed all hands on deck against Dallas. Very frustrating all around.[/quote]

Sweat needs to have a big year next year or gotta strong feeling it’s gonna be adios from Ron

Just my feeling…and I think it is about accountability at this point. I got zero problem pointing a fucking finger when Sweat told everybody over the summer “I don’t need to get vaccinated cause I haven’t got covid yet” . Sorry you give me a window to look in to see how you reason shit out then that’s on u when there are consequences. IMO Sweat got some splaing to do

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1303941]Ok, because I thought you said that the point was that Sweat's decision not to get vaccinated might cost us a game or two, and possibly the playoffs, but I see that you meant that he could take down others because of his decision.

Anyway, the NFL says he doesn't have to stay away from the team, he just has to follow different rules than those that are vaccinated. Just like Aaron Rodgers, who seemingly gets a pass because of who he is and what he means to his team. I'm sure if Aaron Rodgers was on this team, the tune a lot of people are singing in here would be different.[/QUOTE]


Well if we are talking about winning and losing it would because Rodgers is the team. Sweat not so much. In other words, you lose Rodgers it doesn’t really matter if the entire rest of the team is on the covid list you aint winning shit.

As far as vaccines neither gets a pass and they are both wrong imo. But im trying to keep this focused on football.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1303943]Sweat needs to have a big year next year or gotta strong feeling it’s gonna be adios from Ron

Just my feeling…and I think it is about accountability at this point. I got zero problem pointing a fucking finger when Sweat told everybody over the summer “I don’t need to get vaccinated cause I haven’t got covid yet” . Sorry you give me a window to look in to see how you reason shit out then that’s on u when there are consequences. IMO Sweat got some splaing to do[/QUOTE]


Right. Someone needs to revisit that statement with him.

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Sweat's answer was beyond dumb, but he also seemed ill prepared to answer the question. Which is also dumb because he should have known he would be asked about it, instead he came off like a total dope. Maybe he just is, who knows.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1303941]Ok, because I thought you said that the point was that Sweat's decision not to get vaccinated might cost us a game or two, and possibly the playoffs, but I see that you meant that he could take down others because of his decision.

Anyway, the NFL says he doesn't have to stay away from the team, he just has to follow different rules than those that are vaccinated. Just like Aaron Rodgers, who seemingly gets a pass because of who he is and what he means to his team. I'm sure if Aaron Rodgers was on this team, the tune a lot of people are singing in here would be different.[/quote]

I'm going to disagree with you on Rodgers. The Packers media has hung him in effigy in regards to his "i'm immunized" statement, putting the press at risk due to his actions and costing them the one seed in the NFC due to losing a game they would have won with him at QB (of course Arizona helped them out with that yesterday).

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[quote=MTK;1303947]Sweat's answer was beyond dumb, but he also seemed ill prepared to answer the question. Which is also dumb because he should have known he would be asked about it, instead he came off like a total dope. Maybe he just is, who knows.[/quote]

Personally I liked how Ron brought in Dr. Corbett, who was integral in creating the Moderna vaccine, to have her explain how vaccines and viruses work to the team and he said "I need to research more facts" That just showed how blatantly dumb he is to me.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1303951]I'm going to disagree with you on Rodgers. The Packers media has hung him in effigy in regards to his "i'm immunized" statement, putting the press at risk due to his actions and costing them the one seed in the NFC due to losing a game they would have won with him at QB (of course Arizona helped them out with that yesterday).[/quote]

Yeah, I never mentioned the Packers media. I'm talking about what's going on in here, and the fact that we wouldn't be having the Sweat conversation if it was Rodgers in his place.

Anyway, they won three out of their last four since all that went down and you don't hear about his vaccination status anymore do you?

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Not here you are right and while fans have moved on the Packers podcasts and media are still bringing it up

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Seems like NFL teams are experiencing the COVID breakouts as there are now multiple players across NFL are being placed on the COVID list. Maybe we will get to see some replacements games!

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[quote=MTK;1303942]You know how they say the best ability is availability, well by not getting vaccinated Sweat put his availability in jeopardy, and here we are. It's not about blaming him, it's just the reality of the situation. We needed all hands on deck against Dallas. Very frustrating all around.[/quote]

Being vaccinated doesn't seem to help.

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It might.

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I had to have 10 post to provide a link.

[url]https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-07-30-cdc-74-infected-massachusetts-covid-19-outbreak-were-vaccinated[/url]

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[quote=Fishingfool;1303964]Being vaccinated doesn't seem to help.[/quote]

It helps keep people out of the hospital and off ventilators. So yeah, it helps lessen the severity.

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[QUOTE=Fishingfool;1303966]I had to have 10 post to provide a link.

[url]https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-07-30-cdc-74-infected-massachusetts-covid-19-outbreak-were-vaccinated[/url][/QUOTE]


Not necessarily about catching it, but not dying from it. As far as football it is a lesser time away if you are vaccinated. So it seems to help in every way imo actually. Whether we are talking about life or football.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1303967]It helps keep people out of the hospital and off ventilators. So yeah, it helps lessen the severity.[/QUOTE]


Helped me and my daughter avoid it altogether. My wife had it, and we didn’t. Small house. One bathroom. Sharing utensils (obviously washed but…). If we were not vaccinated there is no doubt we would have caught it.

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[quote=punch it in;1303974]Helped me and my daughter avoid it altogether. My wife had it, and we didn’t. Small house. One bathroom. Sharing utensils (obviously washed but…). If we were not vaccinated there is no doubt we would have caught it.[/quote]

Yeah, it appears to help. My wife, my son, and I were all fully vaccinated, and my daughter was between doses when my wife caught it. She had some minor symptoms for a couple days, with all of us going about our normal business thinking it was just allergies again. Then she noticed she lost her sense of taste/smell, and decided to take a home test - and sure enough... She isolated after that, but we were all exposed for at least two days and neither me nor my kids ever had any symptoms...I suppose we could have had it, but we didn't get tested.

Ironically it was right at the six-month mark from her 2nd dose, which I think is the time frame they want you to get a booster.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1303979]Yeah, it appears to help. My wife, my son, and I were all fully vaccinated, and my daughter was between doses when my wife caught it. She had some minor symptoms for a couple days, with all of us going about our normal business thinking it was just allergies again. Then she noticed she lost her sense of taste/smell, and decided to take a home test - and sure enough... She isolated after that, but we were all exposed for at least two days and neither me nor my kids ever had any symptoms...I suppose we could have had it, but we didn't get tested.

Ironically it was right at the six-month mark from her 2nd dose, which I think is the time frame they want you to get a booster.[/QUOTE]


Yeah. Im glad everyone was ok!
Oh and just for the record I didn’t mean we only have one of each utensil and have to share it just that im sure in the timeframe i used the same utensil as her. Lol. Im not a millionaire but i gotta a full fuckin set of spoons knives and forks! Haha.

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[quote=punch it in;1303983]Yeah. Im glad everyone was ok!
Oh and just for the record I didn’t mean we only have one of each utensil and have to share it just that im sure in the timeframe i used the same utensil as her. Lol. Im not a millionaire but i gotta a full fuckin set of spoons knives and forks! Haha.[/quote]

Ah ok. I was just going to let that one go...

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1303985]Ah ok. I was just going to let that one go...[/QUOTE]


LOL. When i read your post i re-read mine and was like damn it sounds like my family shares the same fork. Could’ve let it go myself and waited for you guys to start a go fund me I suppose.

Anyway getting back on track…. This shit is out of control. The omnicron is upon us and it is not playing.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32867111/jarvis-landry-wyatt-teller-8-players-added-reserve-covid-19-list-cleveland-browns[/url]

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First big covid news of the day, sure there will be more coming

@AdamSchefter
Browns’ QB Baker Mayfield has tested positive for COVID-19, sources tell @FieldYates, @ByKimberleyA and me. Unless he produces two negative tests between Saturday, he’s out vs. Raiders.

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[quote=MTK;1304039]First big covid news of the day, sure there will be more coming

@AdamSchefter
Browns’ QB Baker Mayfield has tested positive for COVID-19, sources tell @FieldYates, @ByKimberleyA and me. Unless he produces two negative tests between Saturday, he’s out vs. Raiders.[/quote]

Initially i was upset because it seemed like our d-line was the first big outbreak of the season, but this is crazy. Seems like it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets better.

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Time to let vaccinated asymptomatic guys play. Otherwise this season is going to turn ugly really quick.

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[quote=MTK;1304039]First big covid news of the day, sure there will be more coming

@AdamSchefter
Browns’ QB Baker Mayfield has tested positive for COVID-19, sources tell @FieldYates, @ByKimberleyA and me. Unless he produces two negative tests between Saturday, he’s out vs. Raiders.[/quote]

Wow…this sucks

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As others have mentioned DT Matt Ioannidis being added to the Covid list, per source. DL decimated.

John keim

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NHL and NBA have both had to postpone games. I hope that doesn't happen in NFL. That would be a CF

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1304052]NHL and NBA have both had to postpone games. I hope that doesn't happen in NFL. That would be a CF[/quote]

They made the Broncos trot out a WR at qb last year - ain't no way games are getting postponed.

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Of course this is peaking during fantasy playoffs

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[quote=Chico23231;1304054]Of course this is peaking during fantasy playoffs[/quote]

It was already a pain in the ass now it's going to get ridiculous

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Behind the scenes the league and the union have to be scrambling. Imagine the playoffs with a bunch of stars sitting due to covid, or how about a SB played with a bunch of backups. They need to do something asap.