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Slingin Sammy 33 02-24-2010 09:43 PM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=Ruhskins;665945]Random Thought: I must say that I agree with Holmgren on this one (about to p QB's not throwing in the combine). I understand if a QB is hurt, but I hate this whole "only throwing at the school's pro day" deal.

[URL="http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/02/cleveland_browns_president_mik_1.html"]Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren says it's a mistake for QBs not to throw at NFL combine | cleveland.com[/URL][/quote]Let's see, I'm Bradford or Clausen, most if not all projections have both gone before pick # 10 = 8 figure payday. Why risk a sub-par performance, dropping, and losing millions, so Mike Holgren (or any other GM/coach) can be happy. Is Holmgren going to pass on either one at # 6...I don't think so.

Ruhskins 02-24-2010 09:50 PM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;665949]Let's see, I'm Bradford or Clausen, most if not all projections have both gone before pick # 10 = 8 figure payday. Why risk a sub-par performance, dropping, and losing millions, so Mike Holgren (or any other GM/coach) can be happy. Is Holmgren going to pass on either one at # 6...I don't think so.[/quote]

Why would they have a subpar performance if they are supposed to be that good? Just because you don't have a choreographed pro day at their school?

I know that this will never change, so I'm not going to bother making an argument for it, but I just feel they should be required to throw at the combine just like all the other players.

Dirtbag59 02-24-2010 10:22 PM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=SmootSmack;665879]Nevermind...Colt reportedly won't throw at the combine now.[B] Dr. Andrews [/B]says he's not ready[/quote]

I'd like to see this guys house. It has to be huge considering his standing in the medical community and the number of high profile clients he gets to work on.

GMScud 02-24-2010 10:32 PM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=SmootSmack;665904]With McCoy not throwing, which I think is a bit disconcerting I'm curious to see if a guy like [B]Jevan Snead[/B] can now take advantage and move up[/quote]

You've got some man-love for this kid. I'm just nowhere close to sold on him. Workouts are great and all, but on the field of play in a season where he was supposed to emerge as a high first round pick, he totally flopped.

That said, if Smoot gets released and we end up with Snead, we may need to figure out how to incorporate his name into your username. :)

Lotus 02-24-2010 11:04 PM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=Ruhskins;665945]Random Thought: I must say that I agree with Holmgren on this one (about to p QB's not throwing in the combine). I understand if a QB is hurt, but I hate this whole "only throwing at the school's pro day" deal.

[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/02/cleveland_browns_president_mik_1.html]Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren says it's a mistake for QBs not to throw at NFL combine | cleveland.com[/url][/quote]

I agree with you and Holmgren. Leaving injured players aside, as a pro-to-be you should desire an opportunity to strut your stuff. And having players work in an unfamiliar environment with unfamiliar teammates is what coaches naturally want, given that it simulates some NFL scenarios and is more genuine than a choreographed pro day.

I understand The Great Sammy Baugh's logic regarding risking huge sums of money, but as it is the QB scene at the combine is lame.

tryfuhl 02-25-2010 12:52 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=GMScud;665966]You've got some man-love for this kid. I'm just nowhere close to sold on him. Workouts are great and all, but on the field of play in a season where he was supposed to emerge as a high first round pick, he totally flopped.

That said, if Smoot gets released and we end up with Snead, we may need to figure out how to incorporate his name into your username. :)[/quote]
I have some suggestions

because Snead didn't do so well this past year "SneadLack"

or because choosing a QB at any spot means we won't use all of our picks on O-Line and we'll be doomed you can go "SneadSacked"

tryfuhl 02-25-2010 12:53 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
But basically we won't have the "top 4" QBs throwing

top 4 in quotes because Tebow is still learning how to throw the ball and he's still a media darling at the time

what was LeFevour's excuse?

53Fan 02-25-2010 12:55 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=Lotus;665970]I agree with you and Holmgren. Leaving injured players aside, as a pro-to-be you should desire an opportunity to strut your stuff. And having players work in an unfamiliar environment with unfamiliar teammates is what coaches naturally want, given that it simulates some NFL scenarios and is more genuine than a choreographed pro day.

I understand The Great Sammy Baugh's logic regarding risking huge sums of money, but [B]as it is the QB scene at the combine is lame[/B].[/quote]

So far I've read the following QB's will not throw at the combine.

Bradford
Clausen
McCoy
Tebow
LeFevour

53Fan 02-25-2010 01:02 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=tryfuhl;666002]But basically we won't have the "top 4" QBs throwing

top 4 in quotes because Tebow is still learning how to throw the ball and he's still a media darling at the time

[B]what was LeFevour's excuse[/B]?[/quote]

He says he will focus solely on throwing on his Pro Day. He wants to focus on other things at the combine. It seems most QB's this year want to be more ready and comfortable by throwing in their own enviroment with some of their own receivers.

tryfuhl 02-25-2010 01:05 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
Yeah, I get that, but they're going to have new receivers wherever they get drafted, but not hurting draft stock is the goal.

CultBrennan59 02-25-2010 01:10 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=53Fan;666004]So far I've read the following QB's will not throw at the combine.

Bradford
Clausen
McCoy
Tebow
LeFevour[/quote]

Arguably the best QB's in the draft.

Now this means that Robinson, Kafka, and Pikes draft stocks will increase just by them participating in passing drills, as long as they don't really screw their throws.

WaldSkins 02-25-2010 01:39 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=53Fan;666004]So far I've read the following QB's will not throw at the combine.

Bradford
Clausen
McCoy
Tebow
LeFevour[/quote]

I'm surprised that Tebow isn't throwing, he seems like he's on a mission to prove to scouts that he can play QB at the pro level.

tryfuhl 02-25-2010 01:44 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=WaldSkins;666017]I'm surprised that Tebow isn't throwing, he seems like he's on a mission to prove to scouts that he can play QB at the pro level.[/quote]
He's still working on his mechanics/new throwing motion/timing, etc

SmootSmack 02-25-2010 06:59 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=tryfuhl;666000]I have some suggestions

because Snead didn't do so well this past year "SneadLack"

or because choosing a QB at any spot means we won't use all of our picks on O-Line and we'll be doomed you can go "SneadSacked"[/quote]

LOL. I find Jevan Snead intriguing more than anything else. I'm not any sort of huge fan of his per se.

backrow 02-25-2010 07:20 AM

Re: 2010 Combine
 
[quote=WaldSkins;666017]I'm surprised that Tebow isn't throwing, he seems like he's on a mission to prove to scouts that he can play QB at the pro level.[/quote]

Both he and his parents are missionaries, so I'm not surprised.



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