[QUOTE=LadyT]nothing more and nothing less. The one offensive TD was due to Portis and the other TD was from the "D". Brunell was relegated to handing off the ball and getting the h*** out of the way.

We won this game for 3 reasons, none of which had anything to do with Brunell:

1. Our outstanding "D".

2. We played a team with an offense as inept as ours.

3. We had a lead and didn't have to rely on the non-existent passing game to get us back into it.

But, I no longer blame Brunell for what's happening. No, the blame rests squarely on Gibbs' shoulders. He is just too stubborn to admit that his pursuit and signing of Brunell was a colossal and costly mistake.

I am tired of hearing Gibbs make apologies for the abysmal play of Brunell.

Let's jump ahead a bit. I think Brunell will continue to play unless he's injured. Let's assume he finishes the season and we end up, say, 6-10 which is highly likely. Let's say Ramsey, in total frustration, demands to be traded. Where does that leave us offensively? In nowheresville, that's where.

Thanks, Joe, for an offense that can't seem to score more than 10-15 points a game. Thanks for sticking by a QB that can't get the job done. Thanks for being too stubborn to admit that you (yes it is mostly Gibbs' fault) committed the team to a QB that is no longer effective, to the tune of $43 million.[/QUOTE]

You have to still ask yourself the question, what would Ramsey look like with our O line that stills seems to let defensive players slip through the cracks? I'll tell you, a lot of sacks and possibly more turnovers. Brunell hasn't don e anything to help us accept not turn the ball over. It's sad, but it's true.

Sunra,

I have to disagree. Even when he's had good protection and had time to throw, Brunell has been totally ineffective.

It's way, way past time to make a change. But, it seems that Gibbs is digging in his heels and we all will be the worse for his stubborness.

has anyone heard what gibbs said after the game about mark
i live in fl and had to goto work right after the game or was it just the same bs about how he played his guts out

[QUOTE=CROOKEDSKINS]has anyone heard what gibbs said after the game about mark
i live in fl and had to goto work right after the game or was it just the same bs about how he played his guts out[/QUOTE]

He had nothing to say about Mark. He adressed the passing game as Inconsistant and thats it. He focused on the positives for the most part. I'm pretty sure hes starting to come around.

A total ONE pass by Brunell in the second half pretty much sums up how much confidence Gibbs now has in Brunell...or in the passing game.
To his defense, there were a quite a few drops this week, but it was usually because the throws weren't as accurate as they should have been.

Yeah, it's not all Brunell, but something HAS to be done...and putting Ramsey is worth a shot. If he's no better, then he can just be the one to hand the ball to Portis all day.

can u imagine if we made the right choice in a vet qb and got jeff garcia. I think we may serious contenders

why did we give this guy so much money

Garcia is too turnover prone for Gibbs' taste.

I like him though, he's a gutsy QB and he can move around the pocket.

garcia was the best option this offseason... he probably is too int prone for gibbs, but i think he's good... seriously, ramsey is perfectly capable of throwing 5 for 15 and handing it off 40 times a game... might as well start his training now...