[QUOTE=VTSkins897]if you pass for 58 yds and get a W, that means your QB is mark brunell, and you're playing either the lions or the bears[/QUOTE]

Then we're in good shape, next up, Tigers!

Honestly I think Joe does see that Brunell is not the answer and that Ramsey is the future, but he's not going to throw Ramsey in there unless he's absolutely certain that Ramsey's got the system down and is ready and comfortable running it.

[QUOTE=GoSkins!]How do you guys think we would be doing if we had Kurt Warner at QB instead?[/QUOTE]


Better than we are now, but Warner showed yesterday he isnt fully there yet either, even though hes playing better. Garcia was the best avalible QB. Did anyone see the throw he made last night... he freaking battles. I really am becoming a Garcia fan.

Warner has 12 fumbles this year, 12!

jamf- I feel your pain. It is frustrating, and our patience is running thin. But we need to remember that Gibbs can turn this around. I would like to see Ramsey out there to see if he can throw the ball a little further than 10yds. Brunnell doesn't look confident at all. He looks alot like a rookie, if he would just go easy and throw the ball, so you get picked off once or twice, its not the end. I think we have all the right people in place to go and kick some ass. And hopefully the T.O. and McNabb thing blows up in the Eagles face, and they end up losing the rest of the season. We can only hope

[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Then we're in good shape, next up, Tigers![/QUOTE]

Oh My...


sorry my post was long winded.

to sum it all up, brunell does not have the physical tools to play quarterback successfully. put him on any team in the league and he would still be the worst qb. it's not the system thats the problem.

ramsey isnt a savior, but he is an improvement.

gibbs is making a fool of himself by covering for brunell. having a bad QB is one thing, but having a QB so bad that you feel he can lose a game by calling conservative plays is rediculous.

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Better than we are now, but Warner showed yesterday he isnt fully there yet either, even though hes playing better. Garcia was the best avalible QB. Did anyone see the throw he made last night... he freaking battles. I really am becoming a Garcia fan.[/QUOTE]

I don't have any basis for this other than just rumors I've heard, but I've heard one of the reasons Garcia didn't attract much attention in free agency because he's not popular with teammates, not only T.O.

Anyone else heard that?

[QUOTE=jamf]Oh My...


sorry my post was long winded.

to sum it all up, brunell does not have the physical tools to play quarterback successfully. put him on any team in the league and he would still be the worst qb. it's not the system thats the problem.

ramsey isnt a savior, but he is an improvement.

gibbs is making a fool of himself by covering for brunell. having a bad QB is one thing, but having a QB so bad that you feel he can lose a game by calling conservative plays is rediculous.[/QUOTE]


I don't think either Brunell or Gibbs are cowards as you put it. I just think Brunell is selfishly putting himself above the team by continuing to start when he knows he's not producing, and Gibbs is stubborn by failing/refusing to admit that Brunell no longer has the accuracy, judgment or arm strength to succeed. It has nothing to do with Courage; it has everything to do with accepting reality.

[QUOTE=Tahoe Skin]I don't think either Brunell or Gibbs are cowards as you put it. I just think Brunell is selfishly putting himself above the team by continuing to start when he knows he's not producing, and Gibbs is stubborn by failing/refusing to admit that Brunell no longer has the accuracy, judgment or arm strength to succeed. It has nothing to do with Courage; it has everything to do with accepting reality.[/QUOTE]

Been saying Gibbie is stubborn for a long time, good to see others are picking up on it as well

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[QUOTE=ZackMills]Been saying Gibbie is stubborn for a long time, good to see others are picking up on it as well[/QUOTE]
Why do you insist on calling him Gibbie? Call him Joe Gibbs, coach, or even old man is fine but why Gibbie? What's the deal?

Oh, and glad to see your not smoking anymore.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]:sleep:[/QUOTE]

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