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mooby 01-03-2012 12:01 AM

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;872487]He was with Minnesota as a position coach this season. And I heard there were a lot of issues, skipping meetings, coming late to film sessions. This is a coach we're talking about. His priorities are elsewhere it seems.

And Champ and Rashad Bauman both told me (off the record) that they learned nothing from Green, because he doesn't teach technique at all since he relied so much on his god given talents. He's like Magic Johnson, not capable of teaching what he can do. He spent a spring "coaching" Justin Tryon. How's that working out?[/QUOTE]

I think this sums up why I wouldn't want Green coaching our secondary. I don't think he would be an effective communicator to his guys, simply because his own experiences were a combo of unique talent and hard work. He wouldn't be working with a group of guys as talented as he was, and I don't think he can effectively communicate with his players the way a successful coach needs to.

That Guy 01-03-2012 01:14 AM

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[quote=mooby;872507]I think this sums up why I wouldn't want Green coaching our secondary. I don't think he would be an effective communicator to his guys, simply because his own experiences were a combo of unique talent and hard work. He wouldn't be working with a group of guys as talented as he was, and I don't think he can effectively communicate with his players the way a successful coach needs to.[/quote]

he's also not a people person. he likes himself, and he's not too concerned about other people from what i've heard.

#21Taylor4Ever 01-03-2012 01:28 AM

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It really disgusts me that people seem to hate Doughty so much, the guy clearly shows nothing but heart out there on the field. I realize he should never line up at FS, but he is definitely one of those guys every team should have...someone that does whatever is asked of him and gives 150%.

As far as the question at hand, Golston has worn out his welcome, along with Rocky, Buchanon, and Barnes are the only for sure guys that need to go.

polywog 01-03-2012 06:14 AM

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Franchise Laron Landry????

SkinItup 01-03-2012 06:57 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;872471]Does anyone know/remember how Singletary fared as a position coach? (we all know how he did as a HC) I think he was with Baltimore at one point coaching their linebackers. I was trying to think of good/elite players that have transitioned well to coaching positions.[/quote]

And most recently Jim Harbaugh been making a pretty big name for himself.

Almost all coaches play at some point. But admittedly not alot play after college.

skinsfan69 01-03-2012 07:58 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;872452]You know Darrel Green tweeted that he wants an opportunity to coach with the Redskins. Read the Redskins insider.[/quote]

Not a good idea IMO.

#56fanatic 01-03-2012 08:40 AM

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"Brian Orakpo: stays, unless we get a super awesome trade offer as outlined in other threads"


if this happens, I seriously will have second thoughts of acknowledging this organization as a legit NFL franchise. I am absolutely dumbfounded why this is even discussed or even thought of as a possible scenario. I will have serious reservations about rooting for this team if it gives away a possible serious playmaker on the defensive side of the ball. This guy commands respect from the offensive coord, and you have to account for him when he is on the field. Stupid to even think about it to be honest.

MTK 01-03-2012 08:53 AM

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The front 7 is fine, but the secondary needs some serious work.

Paintrain 01-03-2012 09:35 AM

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[quote=#56fanatic;872567]"Brian Orakpo: stays, unless we get a super awesome trade offer as outlined in other threads"


if this happens, I seriously will have second thoughts of acknowledging this organization as a legit NFL franchise. I am absolutely dumbfounded why this is even discussed or even thought of as a possible scenario. I will have serious reservations about rooting for this team if it gives away a possible serious playmaker on the defensive side of the ball. This guy commands respect from the offensive coord, and you have to account for him when he is on the field. Stupid to even think about it to be honest.[/quote]

There's a good reason that fans are not front office personnel. Some of the 'trade speculation' put out on these boards is example #1.

12thMan 01-03-2012 12:23 PM

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[quote=SkinItup;872560]And most recently Jim Harbaugh been making a pretty big name for himself.

Almost all coaches play at some point. But admittedly not alot play after college.[/quote]

Jim Haslett was a good linebacker for Buffalo in his day. So was Ron Rivera for the Bears. Dan Reeves was good QB way back in the day did pretty good as HC of Denver. There are some that have excelled at both levels.

NC_Skins 01-03-2012 12:48 PM

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DL: Stephen Bowen(stays), Kentwan Balmer, Adam Carriker(gone), Jarvis Jenkins(stays), Barry Cofield(stays), Chris Nield(stays), Darrion Scott(gone), Kedric Golston(gone), Chris Baker(gone),Doug Worthington(gone)

LB: Brian Orakpo(stays), Ryan Kerrigan(stays), London Fletcher(stays), Perry Riley(stays), Rocky McIntosh(gone), Rob Jackson(stays), Lorenzo Alexander(stays), Keyaron Fox(gone), Markus White(stays)


CB: DeAngelo Hall (sadly he stays), Josh Wilson (stays),Phillip Buchanon(gone), Kevin Barnes(stays), Byron Westbrook(gone), Brandyn Thompson(gone)

Safety: Laron Landry(stays via tag), Reed Doughty(stays), OJ Atogwe(gone if they can find a replacement), Dejon Gomes (stays)
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12thMan 01-03-2012 12:55 PM

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Really, you think Adam Carriker is gone? Surely, he stays in my opinion.

NC_Skins 01-03-2012 12:57 PM

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[quote=12thMan;872680]Really, you think Adam Carriker is gone? Surely, he stays in my opinion.[/quote]

I'll say it's a 50/50 and depends on training camp really and Jenkins health.

Ruhskins 01-03-2012 12:59 PM

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Speaking of Carriker, he just posted this on Tweeter:

"Adam Carriker
I wonder if I just played my last game as a Redskin?"

12thMan 01-03-2012 01:00 PM

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Carriker literally just tweeted this:

@AdamCarriker: I wonder if I just played my last game as a Redskin?


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