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PSUskinsfan11 03-29-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Slow but there are still options
 
Hovan is trash. He wasn't even activated for the last 3-5 games. I would rather resign Haley then get him.

diehardskin2982 03-29-2005 05:40 PM

Re: Slow but there are still options
 
they said the same thing about glenn and he is the best reciever for the cowboys since he's goten there

shallyshal 03-29-2005 10:39 PM

Re: Slow but there are still options
 
of the group you mentioned these are my thoughts..

kevin dyson is likely through in the nfl. signing him would mean giving up on mccants and jacobs. better to give them the opportunity to develop. also, if we are serious about taking a receiver high inthis draft, there is little or no purpose in taking dyson. it is just wasted money.

andre dyson is worth taking a look at. especially if the team is serious about going in another direction with the draft. the same thing about him is true inthat it would mean that the development of jimoh, brown and wilds is going to be stunted. it comes down to how much the staff feels the young trio can be counted on..

law... the only reason to sign him would be to a 1 year contract at vet min, tied to health/performance markers. he will simply never go for that contract because other teams will eventually pay him royally.

marques douglas... i would have thought the skins would be very interested in him as a fall back after losing brown. he played very well in spots over the past several years and should be coming into his own. he played at howard so there is a dc connection. still, the post said today that the front office has no apparent interest in him.

holdman.. the skins went after him last year or the year before when he signed with cleveland. it is just as well he signed elsewhere. he gives the team nothing that clemons, lemon, barnes and campbell cannot provide and would cost considerably more. develop the youngsters.

hovan... a mystery. a top 10 pick once. is it chemistry or is he just a loser?? is it frustration from playing on a bottom 10 defense or was he part of the reason? for sure he needs a change of address. maybe an invitation to camp to see how serious he is about getting in shape and playing??? clearly, nothing more than that. we have had enough of marginal character players. also, remember, his signing would likely cost a player like bosetti or possibly nic clemons a roster spot. is he really worth it? unlike brown, who was injured, there are character questions at the very least with hovan. also, does he really represent an upgrade over a rotation of noble, griffin, salave'a and bosetti? haley was considered expendable now. hovan is likely the same..

i think that covers them alll

EternalEnigma21 03-30-2005 12:58 AM

Re: Slow but there are still options
 
I signed hovan in madden after i won the superbowl and brandon noble held out on me... (jeeze a guy gets 104 sacks in a season and he thinks hes god or something) and when i signed hovan he was nothing but grief. His morale sucked, then everyone elses morale sucked. I think hes got problems. He definately wasnt hugged enough as a child.

PSUSkinsFan21 03-30-2005 09:12 AM

Re: Slow but there are still options
 
[QUOTE=PSUskinsfan11]Hovan is trash. He wasn't even activated for the last 3-5 games. I would rather resign Haley then get him.[/QUOTE]

When you can't land a spot on the Vikings Defense, you know your career is over.

MTK 03-30-2005 09:36 AM

Re: Slow but there are still options
 
[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]celts32:

Last season there were horror stories in the Minneapolis/St. Paul papers about Hovan. Supposedly he "refused to practice" and had some run-ins with various coaches and did not play hard on defense. So the Vikes - whose defense was pretty miserable - deactivated him for a couple of games; they didn't even dress him out. And then he had a meeting with Tice where it was either get with the program or be suspended for the rest of the season by the team for what most people would call "insubordination".

Those stories may or may not be true; but when I read things like that, I get a very queasy feeling about signing that guy as a free agent. Yes, he played well a couple of years ago, but last year was a disaster on the field and in the locker room.

And remember, the Vikes put up with Randy Moss' nonsense for seven or eight years before that got to be too much for them and Hovan went deep into the doghouse in only a couple of years. That does not bode well.

I agree that some D-line help would be a good idea; but if I'm the Skins' GM, I'd be looking somewhere else...[/QUOTE]

I definitely agree on Hovan.

He's a bad seed, not the kind of guy I can see Gibbs looking to bring into this locker room.

SmootSmack 04-01-2005 07:49 PM

Re: Slow but there are still options
 
Hovan is Gruden's problem now

[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/04/01/bc.fbp.lgns.tampabayhovan.r/[/url]

SKINSnCANES 04-01-2005 07:55 PM

Re: Slow but there are still options
 
I think Hovan is going to be a good pickup for them. I dont know all the details about his play in Minnesota but I thougth he was a solid player.


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