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[b]Dolphins | Team to visit with Maddox[/b]
Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:01:05 -0800

Jason Cole, of the Miami Herald, reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/22/nfl"]Miami Dolphins[/url] will visit with free agent QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1533/nfl"]Tommy Maddox[/url] (Steelers) Tuesday, March 21. Agent Vann McElroy said Maddox has also received interest from Oakland and Cincinnati, but the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/22/nfl"]Dolphins[/url] situation may be the most intriguing because [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/7754/nfl"]Mike Mularkey[/url] is now the offensive coordinator.


[b]Bears | Team begins Griese visit[/b]
Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:01:42 -0800

John Mullin and K.C. Johnson, of the Chicago Tribune, report the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"]Chicago Bears[/url] began their visit with free agent QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/602/nfl"]Brian Griese[/url] (Buccaneers) Sunday, March 19. The visit is expected to continue into Monday, March 20. Griese has maintained he will be healthy by training camp as he recovers from last season's knee injury. The [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"]Bears[/url] are looking to sign a veteran quarterback likely to supplant QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/11298/nfl"]Kyle Orton[/url] as the backup and for insurance should starting QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/5889/nfl"]Rex Grossman[/url] suffer another injury. Griese's best option may be a one-year deal that allows him to demonstrate his recovery and possibly play his way into another long-term deal beginning in 2007.



[b]Bengals | Team expected to contact Griese's agent Monday[/b]
Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:27:03 -0800

John Mullin and K.C. Johnson, of the Chicago Tribune, report the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/12/nfl"]Cincinnati Bengals[/url] visited with free agent QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/602/nfl"]Brian Griese[/url] (Buccaneers), but he left without a contract offer. However, a source said the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/12/nfl"]Bengals[/url] intend to contact Ralph Cindrich, Griese's agent, Monday morning, March 20, indicating they're not conceding he will sign with the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"]Chicago Bears[/url].

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Does anyone here think Harrington is worth more than Patrick?

I lean towards "hell no." but i think my bias may be showing.

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harrington has no leadership skills and apparently very poor people skills as well.

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Here is my prediction.... Ramsey has learned more from Gibbs in the last couple of years than he did his whole time with Spurrier. He will be given a shot in NY and will replace Pennigton as the starter before too long. Harrington is a joke. I think Harrington has had more talent arround him that Ramsey ever did, but could not make it as a starting QB.

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Harrington Released from Lions.
McMahon (QB) and Andrew Hall (QB) released from Eagles.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]harrington has no leadership skills and apparently very poor people skills as well.[/QUOTE]

was he smacking too many asses in the locker room?

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[QUOTE=PWNED]was he smacking too many asses in the locker room?[/QUOTE]

well jeff garcia was in close proximity....

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ha HA! anyone still have that pic of ol jeffy? that thing cracks me up

"who has two thumbs and loves to man ass? this guy"

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[b]Vikings | Childress had thoughts of Owens in dealing with Culpepper[/b]
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:21:17 -0800

John Shipley, of the [url="http://www.kffl.com/link/26"]Pioneer Press[/url], reports [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl"]Minnesota Vikings[/url] head coach [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/8309/nfl"]Brad Childress[/url] said he heard enough from former QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1120/nfl"]Daunte Culpepper[/url] to know that he did not want to be with the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl"]Vikings[/url] and that the feeling was mutual. Childress had plenty of background experience having to deal with WR [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1608/nfl"]Terrell Owens[/url] for the last two seasons. In his first public appearance in the Twin Cities, Childress told a St. Paul Chamber of Commerce luncheon crowd he didn't like what he heard from Culpepper during the few conversations they have had since Childress was hired Jan. 5. Childress was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in Philadelphia the past seven seasons, the last two with Owens, whose egocentric, and eccentric, behavior ultimately became such a headache that his prodigious talent was deemed not worth it.



more smack talk.

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[b]Lions | Millen will meet with Harrington soon[/b]
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:56:24 -0800

Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington is currently on vacation in Southeast Asia. Two sources said he was ready to return to take part in the team's offseason conditioning program, but head coach Rod Marinelli decided to move in a different direction. Harrington is expected to return from vacation and talk to team president Matt Millen late this week, two other sources said. The Lions have almost three months to make a move with Harrington. He is due a $4 million roster bonus June 15.

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[b]Ravens | Collins still a candidate[/b]
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:18:19 -0800

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports free agent QB Kerry Collins (Raiders) is still a candidate to sign with Baltimore Ravens.


[b]Bears | Talks for Griese heating up[/b]
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:17:54 -0800

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports talks between the Chicago Bears and free agent QB Brian Griese (Buccaneers) are heating up.

[b]Dolphins | Team looking to secure Griese
Buccaneers | Team looking to secure Griese
Bengals | Team contacts Griese's agent[/b]

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[B]Bears | Team agrees to terms with Griese[/B]
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:06:56 -0800

John Mullin and K.C. Johnson, of the Chicago Tribune, report the Chicago Bears have agreed to a five-year contract with free agent QB Brian Griese (Buccaneers), according to a source close to the player. Financial details weren't yet immediately available. Griese is expected to supplant QB Kyle Orton as QB Rex Grossman's primary backup.

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[QUOTE=That Guy][B]Bears | Team agrees to terms with Griese[/B]
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:06:56 -0800

John Mullin and K.C. Johnson, of the Chicago Tribune, report the Chicago Bears have agreed to a five-year contract with free agent QB Brian Griese (Buccaneers), according to a source close to the player. Financial details weren't yet immediately available. Griese is expected to supplant QB Kyle Orton as QB Rex Grossman's primary backup.[/QUOTE]

That's 3 pretty decent young QBs on one team. I'm a big Griese fan, surprised he hasn't been able to just stick with one team. Grossman shows a lot of promise but just can't stay healthy. And Orton is clearly the weakest but put all the right pieces around him and he did ok

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what about j harrington?wasnt he released?where would he end up?

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[B]Cardinals | Team has some interest in Harrington[/B]
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:28:05 -0800

The Associated Press reports Arizona Cardinals vice president for player personnel Rod Graves said the Cardinals have some interest in Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington, who won't return to the Lions. "We have considered both of those (Harrington and Kerry Collins), but we're going to weigh that against draft considerations as well, and see where we come out," Graves said. "There's certainly no opposition to looking at Joey Harrington."

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[quote=TAFKAS]That's 3 pretty decent young QBs on one team. I'm a big Griese fan, surprised he hasn't been able to just stick with one team. Grossman shows a lot of promise but just can't stay healthy. And Orton is clearly the weakest but put all the right pieces around him and he did ok[/quote]

yeah, i'm still not an orton fan. he's clearly backup material at this point.

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[B]Vikings | Team will visit with McMahon
Broncos | Team will visit with McMahon[/B]

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[B]Raiders | Team keeps Brooks over for a longer stay[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:03:07 -0800

Bill Soliday, of the Oakland Tribune, reports the Oakland Raiders have extended their visit with free agent QB Aaron Brooks (Saints) another day. Brooks stayed the night and will meet with the Raiders again Wednesday, March 22. [B]Brooks may also be pursued by the Green Bay Packers[/B], according to the Wisconsin State Journal.

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I just read the interview Antonio Pierce gave. What a schmo! He's LOBBYING TO GET LAVAR! HAHAH. Is it just me, or is my hatred for this guy legitimate? I hope Clinton makes him his BITCH when he breaks his ankles RACING to the secondary against the Midgets this year. I'm gonna bust a nut watching Al Saunders and CP tearing up that linebacker core. Especially Antonio Pierce. Think that would shut him up? I hope they get Lavar also, so Mr. Saunders can show the rest of the NFL, and the world for that matter that Lavar Arrington is garbage. He can't play in a structured D. This season is going to be very emotional. **** you Pierce. Much terminal illness to you, and your family, along with Jeremy Shockey.


Love,
Hatred in DC

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[quote=CooleyFan]I just read the interview Antonio Pierce gave. What a schmo! He's LOBBYING TO GET LAVAR! HAHAH. Is it just me, or is my hatred for this guy legitimate? I hope Clinton makes him his BITCH when he breaks his ankles RACING to the secondary against the Midgets this year. I'm gonna bust a nut watching Al Saunders and CP tearing up that linebacker core. Especially Antonio Pierce. Think that would shut him up? I hope they get Lavar also, so Mr. Saunders can show the rest of the NFL, and the world for that matter that Lavar Arrington is garbage. He can't play in a structured D. This season is going to be very emotional. **** you Pierce. Much terminal illness to you, and your family, along with Jeremy Shockey.


Love,
Hatred in DC[/quote]

i don't know why or how this got here, but it doesn't belong. Please stop with the terminal illness and death wishes shit though. Its stupid and only reflects poorly on you.

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[B]Raiders | Team agrees to terms with Brooks[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:43:20 -0800

Jerry McDonald, of the Oakland Tribune, reports the Oakland Raiders have agreed to terms with free agent QB Aaron Brooks (Saints) on an undisclosed contract, according to two NFL sources.


[B]Bengals | Team to visit with A. Wright[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:41:47 -0800

Geoff Hobson, of Bengals.com, reports the agent for free agent QB Anthony Wright (Ravens) said his client will begin a visit with the Cincinnati Bengals Wednesday evening, March 22.

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[B]Bengals | Team focusing on Maddox[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:56:14 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports the Cincinnati Bengals focus on a backup quarterback appears to be zeroed in on free agent QB Tommy Maddox (Steelers).

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[B]Bears | Grossman has starting role[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:25:05 -0800

The Associated Press reports Chicago Bears QB Rex Grossman is the starting quarterback for the Bears. QB Brian Griese hopes to become the team's starting quarterback, but head coach Lovie Smith is sticking with Grossman for now. Smith said, "That's the way we're going to start up our football team, and we'll go from there. It's that way at every position. The person that's at the top of the depth chart knows he has to play a certain way or you give the second guy an opportunity to play. ... It's good to have these type of players at the quarterback position."

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[B]Vikings | McMahon signed[/B]
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:12:11 -0800

ESPNews reports the Minnesota Vikings have signed free agent Mike McMahon (Eagles) to a two-year deal.

the best QBs left:
k. collins
harrington

and yet the ravens still wait...

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[quote=That Guy][B]Vikings | McMahon signed[/B]
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:12:11 -0800

ESPNews reports the Minnesota Vikings have signed free agent Mike McMahon (Eagles) to a two-year deal.

the best QBs left:
k. collins
harrington

and yet the ravens still wait...[/quote]

McMahon's very good, kinda like Patrick Ramsey for us.

Anyone would have lost a majority of games with the team he was playing with last year (no westbrook, 3 starters out on line, no TO), including McNabb.

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[quote=GTripp0012]McMahon's very good, kinda like Patrick Ramsey for us.

Anyone would have lost a majority of games with the team he was playing with last year (no westbrook, 3 starters out on line, no TO), including McNabb.[/quote]
that doesnt mean mcmahon is very good

if you get replaced by joey harrington in detroit, you're not good

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[quote=steveo395]that doesnt mean mcmahon is very good

if you get replaced by joey harrington in detroit, you're not good[/quote]

He got replaced because of contract size, mainly. Harrington was destined to play.

And...it's Detroit...it's because they keep making moves like Harrington (everything about him, drafting him, starting him, not benching him) that they have won as many games as they have over the past 5 years.

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[b]Lions | Millen supports moving on without Harrington; trying to trade him[/b]
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:57:50 -0800

The Detroit Free Press reports in his first comments since head coach Rod Marinelli declared the Detroit Lions were moving on at quarterback without QB Joey Harrington; team president Matt Millen expressed a mixture of resignation and regret. "Nothing you can do about it," Millen said. "He's not the first one that didn't work and probably won't be the last. So we have to make what we have work. That's what we've got to do." Millen is trying to trade Harrington, and there is interest in Harrington around the league. But Harrington's contract is an obstacle. Harrington is due a $4 million roster bonus June 15 and his salary is $4.45 million this year and next. Harrington needs to reduce his salary for a trade to work. Apparently Harrington's agent, David Dunn, isn't cooperating. He has been asking teams for about what Harrington is making now.

[b]Chiefs | Team remains interested in Harrington[/b]
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:37:11 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson said the Chiefs remain interested in Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington. Peterson and Lions' team president Matt Millen are expected to talk about Harrington at the NFL owner's meetings this week. The Chiefs appear interested enough that they would give the Lions a choice in the first three rounds of next month's draft if they can work out details of a new contract with Harrington and his agent.

[b]Dolphins | Team calls about Harrington[/b]
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:17:04 -0800

Armando Salguero and Jason Cole, of the Miami Herald, report the Miami Dolphins have called the agent for Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington to express their interest in acquiring Harrington. A source said Miami officials called agent David Dunn to gauge Harrington's availability should the Lions waive Harrington before June 15 when he is due a $4.5 million bonus. It is likely the Dolphins and Lions will talk about Harrington's availability this week at the NFL annual meeting.

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man, that dolphins QB coach has visited with vince young and at least 2 other comine QBs privately, he's talked to culpepper, ferotte and now harrington? at least he's thorough.

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[B]Dolphins | Team could have interest in Collins[/B]
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:12:49 -0800

Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports the Miami Dolphins might have interest in free agent QB Kerry Collins (Raiders). The team could use insurance if Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper (knee) is not fully recovered from knee surgery.

very thorough ;) you have to wonder, with ferrote getting 2.1mill a year, how much is collins (who's better) going to cost? And if they're that unsure, why didn't they just re-hitch gus?

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[B]Rams | Contract update: G. Frerotte[/B]
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:05:45 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams QB Gus Frerotte's three-year, $6.3 million contract with the team, included a signing bonus of $2.1 million. Frerotte receives base salaries of $810,000 (2006), $1 million (2007) and $1.4 million (2008). In addition, Frerotte receives roster bonuses of $500,000 before both the 2007 and 2008 seasons.

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[quote=That Guy][B]Dolphins | Team could have interest in Collins[/B]
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:12:49 -0800

Jamison Hensley, of the Baltimore Sun, reports the Miami Dolphins might have interest in free agent QB Kerry Collins (Raiders). The team could use insurance if Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper (knee) is not fully recovered from knee surgery.

very thorough ;) you have to wonder, with ferrote getting 2.1mill a year, how much is collins (who's better) going to cost? And if they're that unsure, why didn't they just re-hitch gus?[/quote]

No way. Frerotte is no prize himself, but hes a hundred times better than Collins.

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collins:
[url]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1013[/url]

ferotte:
[url]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1070[/url]

ferotte throws a few less INTs per TD, but collins puts up LOTS more yards... its not like he had the greatest WR cast in NY, and he isn't a career backup either.

your point is somewhat supported by the time collins has been on the FA market without interest though. I don't think his arm was strong enough to max out on randy last year :/

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[quote=That Guy]collins:
[URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1013"]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1013[/URL]

ferotte:
[URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1070"]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1070[/URL]

ferotte throws a few less INTs per TD, but collins puts up LOTS more yards... its not like he had the greatest WR cast in NY, and he isn't a career backup either.

your point is somewhat supported by the time collins has been on the FA market without interest though. I don't think his arm was strong enough to max out on randy last year :/[/quote]

I'm focusing on the offensive efficency though. Collins had Moss, Porter, LaMont Jordan, and a decent O-Line, and put up 310 points (the cards put up 311) and lost 11 games. Frerotte had Chambers, Michmichael, and Ronnie Brown/Pot Head, and a far worse O-line, put up 318 pts, and won 9 games. That's why hes better.

Oh, and Frerotte didn't hit Lemar Marshall in stride.

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[quote=GTripp0012]I'm focusing on the offensive efficency though. Collins had Moss, Porter, LaMont Jordan, and a decent O-Line, and put up 310 points (the cards put up 311) and lost 11 games. Frerotte had Chambers, Michmichael, and Ronnie Brown/Pot Head, and a far worse O-line, put up 318 pts, and won 9 games. That's why hes better.

Oh, and Frerotte didn't hit Lemar Marshall in stride.[/quote]

yeah but the dolphins defense wa about 100x better than oaklands, and i think that had a lot to do with it as well.

and, you know.... the raiders had norv.

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[B]Dolphins | Team contacts Collins' agent[/B]
Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:06:23 -0800

Jason Cole, of the Miami Herald, reports the Miami Dolphins have talked to agent David Dunn about free agent QB Kerry Collins (Raiders). Collins ranks higher on the team's priority list than Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington. Dunn indicated Monday, March 27, that both Collins and Harrington are hoping to land starting jobs.

interest is official now. I think collins will wait on the ravens to make an offer before deciding, since boller is a step below terrible.

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[B]Dolphins | Team to visit with Harrington[/B]
Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:19:55 -0800

Jeff Darlington, of the Palm Beach Post, reports a source said Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington will visit the Miami Dolphins Wednesday, March 29, as both teams are interested in a potential trade. Harrington has received interest from several teams but is visiting the Dolphins first because of their critical need for a backup. Dolphins' head coach Nick Saban said he hopes to fill the vacancy soon, but would not rush.

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[B]Packers | Team asking for decision from Favre by Saturday[/B]
Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:03:53 -0800

ESPNews reports Green Bay Packers officials have asked QB Brett Favre to make a decision on retirement by Saturday, April 1.

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[B]Bengals | Team to visit with Harrington
Chiefs | Team given permission to visit with Harrington
Seahawks | Team given permission to visit with Harrington
Raiders | Team given permission to visit with Harrington
Dolphins | Harrington to visit team Wednesday[/B]

how come ramsey couldn't buy that much attention?

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[B]Cowboys | Team granted permission to talk with Harrington[/B]
Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:30:16 -0800

Rick Gosselin, of the Dallas Morning News, reports Detroit Lions team officials have confirmed the Dallas Cowboys have been granted permission to talk with Lions' QB Joey Harrington. The Lions also have given Miami, Cincinnati Denver, Kansas City, Oakland and Seattle permission to speak with Harrington.

I still don't get all the harrington love.