FA QB mama-drama (3/14)

That Guy · 03-14-2006, 11:53 PM

Alright, plenty of QB movement today, quick recap:

Culpepper traded to Dolphins for a 2nd round pick. The 'Phins release Gus Ferotte shortly afterwards (to avoid paying a 300k roster bonus), and they may now be looking for a 1 year vet for insurance.

After the Dolphins made their choice of Culpepper over Brees (probably due to contract issues), Brees Signs a 6 year $60mill deal with the Saints. which will pay him an $8mill SB and 2$mill base salary in 2006 followed by a $12mill option bonus (presumeably) if the saints are happy with him after the season.

The third domino to fall is that the Saints are now shopping the #2 pick. Best guesses are that they want to stay near the top of the first round to get M Williams (DE) and additional picks.

Lions Sign Kitna (bengals starter turned backup) four 4 years (3.5mill SB, 10.5mill deal), and announce an open competition for the starter's job in Detriot. Meanwhile, Palmer says he'll miss the guy ().

After the signing of Kitna, the Lions still want to sign McCown (for a 3-way? err.. 3-way competition?). Martz loves seeding a good (and prolonged) QB controversy. None of these guys are great, but they're all close enough to give fans plenty of options for why they should hate whoever happens to be under center at the time and how easy it would be to fix the situation with a constant QB carousel.

Meanwhile, the Raiders have McCown in town for a visit. They need to get someone.

Bengals are looking more like they'll be replacing Kitna with J Martin (rams #3 QB in 2006) in the #2 QB role. A bit scary since he stunk pretty bad last year and Palmer may not be ready to start the season.

The Saints' signing obviouly has the most far reaching implications regarding the draft.

scowan · 03-14-2006, 11:57 PM

In the mean time, where does all of this leave poor Patrick Ramsey? I guess he will eventually get picked up to be a backup somewhere else, like he was with the Skins last year. His starting days are over.

EXoffender · 03-14-2006, 11:58 PM

MIA should keep Frerotte and Culpepper. Kitna is getting a raw deal. He should've demanded a trade after CIN announced that Palmer was taking over.

That Guy · 03-14-2006, 11:59 PM

they may be. the Lions aren't going to trade a pick for him and the Raiders don't seem to care.

The Dolphins still need short term insurance ssince Gus is gone, and the Jets are also interested (also as insurance). Those are the best chances he has to start.

EXoffender · 03-15-2006, 12:04 AM

QB carousel.

That Guy · 03-15-2006, 01:59 PM

oakland wants to resign collins
bears and the vikings are looking at mccown as a backup.

That Guy · 03-15-2006, 02:01 PM

Packers | Favre asks for team to be active in free agency
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:40:14 -0800

Chris Mortensen, of ESPN.com, reports Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre has told the Packers' front office to become more active in free agency and he will return to the team.

bribe them to spend money by offering to come back with your massive one year contract (7-12mill) :P

ArtMonkDrillz · 03-15-2006, 03:29 PM

I wonder if Arizona would give us anything of value for Ramsey. Who's their backup QB now that McCown is gone?

PWNED · 03-15-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

Packers | Favre asks for team to be active in free agency
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:40:14 -0800

Chris Mortensen, of ESPN.com, reports Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre has told the Packers' front office to become more active in free agency and he will return to the team.

bribe them to spend money by offering to come back with your massive one year contract (7-12mill) :P

you know, favre is a good player, but his power over people would give the devil himself a boner.

That Guy · 03-15-2006, 11:28 PM

Alright, here's today's update:

Lions | Harrington wants out
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:47:36 -0800

Tom Kowalski, of mLive.com, reports Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington has told the Lions' front office and coaching staff that he does not want to play in Detroit. The Lions have been in talks with free agent QB Josh McCown (Cardinals), which could allow the team to move Harrington.

Eagles | Garcia agrees to deal
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:31:23 -0800

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles and free agent QB Jeff Garcia (Lions) have agreed in principle to a deal. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Saints | Brooks released
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:15:00 -0800

The NFL Network reports the New Orleans Saints have released QB Aaron Brooks, making him an unrestricted free agent.

Dolphins | Culpepper passes physical
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:20:42 -0800

ESPNews reports Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper (knee) passed his physical Wednesday, March 15, which makes the trade from the Minnesota Vikings for a 2006 second-round draft choice complete.

Saints | Brees' signing would not discourage Leinart from coming
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:42:44 -0800

Jimmy Smith, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports Southern California QB Matt Leinart's agent, Leigh Steinberg, said the New Orleans Saints' signing of QB Drew Brees will not deter his client from coming to New Orleans if the team selects him with the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft. "From Matt's perspective, we have always assumed there would be a veteran starter with any franchise that drafted him," Steinberg said, "and (assumed) he would not be the immediate starter, wherever he would go, and spending some time learning has proven to be advantageous for a number of the best quarterbacks in football."

so garcia moves to philly, harrington wants out (with the possibility of 3 average QBs in town), brooks is finally out, and leinhart would rather go #2 than #3 or lower.

That Guy · 03-16-2006, 01:42 AM

Dolphins | Team has interest in re-signing Frerotte
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:58:11 -0800

Armando Salguero, of the Miami Herald, reports the Miami Dolphins have interest in re-signing free agent QB Gus Frerotte (Dolphins) to serve as the team's No. 2 quarterback.

Dolphins | Team restructures Culpepper's contract
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:57:47 -0800

Armando Salguero, of the Miami Herald, reports Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper restructured his contract Wednesday, March 15. The team turned what was supposed to be a $6 million bonus and $2 million base salary in 2006 into a $7 million bonus and $1 million base. The new contract has a cap savings of nearly $5 million.

That Guy · 03-16-2006, 04:15 AM

Packers | Latest team to show interest in McCown
Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:09:03 -0800

Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports the Green Bay Packers have expressed interest in free agent QB Josh McCown (Cardinals) and may host him for a visit.

Bills | Team to visit with Nall

Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:04:23 -0800

Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports free agent QB Craig Nall (Packers) will visit with the Buffalo Bills Thursday, March 16.

more teams looking for QBs not named ramsey. At least PR is going to meet with the bucs now.

That Guy · 03-16-2006, 02:17 PM

Lions | Team will have competition for starting quarterback role
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:38:37 -0800

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports Detroit Lions QB Jon Kitna will compete with QB Josh McCown for the starting quarterback role.

Lions | Harrington likely released
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:38:14 -0800

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington will likely get released from the team. Harrington is due a $4 million roster bonus on June 15 and is scheduled to have a base salary of $4.5 million for the 2006 season. His release would save the team approximately $5.4 million in salary cap space.

Lions | McCown signed to two-year contract
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:37:51 -0800

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Detroit Lions have signed free agent QB Josh McCown (Cardinals) to a two-year contract worth $6 million. The deal will pay him $4 million in 2006 between his signing bonus and base salary.

not unexpected. Ramsey is now the premeire QB on the market with brooks, and soon harrington (who's the biggest bust of the 3). Ramsey is the least likely to make mistakes, so maybe now he'll have value to the teams that lost on mccown.

A couple teams prefer ferotte, but he should find a home soon, and there's a good chance it'll be with the vikes instead of back in miami.

SmootSmack · 03-16-2006, 02:19 PM

I thought I read somewhere that Gus could be headed to Denver

That Guy · 03-16-2006, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I thought I read somewhere that Gus could be headed to Denver

he could be. there's 3-4 teams looking at him. my guess is he's not back in miami as of right now though.

03-14-2006, 11:53 PM	#1
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	FA QB mama-drama (3/14) Alright, plenty of QB movement today, quick recap: Culpepper traded to Dolphins for a 2nd round pick. The 'Phins release Gus Ferotte shortly afterwards (to avoid paying a 300k roster bonus), and they may now be looking for a 1 year vet for insurance. After the Dolphins made their choice of Culpepper over Brees (probably due to contract issues), Brees Signs a 6 year $60mill deal with the Saints. which will pay him an $8mill SB and 2$mill base salary in 2006 followed by a $12mill option bonus (presumeably) if the saints are happy with him after the season. The third domino to fall is that the Saints are now shopping the #2 pick. Best guesses are that they want to stay near the top of the first round to get M Williams (DE) and additional picks. Lions Sign Kitna (bengals starter turned backup) four 4 years (3.5mill SB, 10.5mill deal), and announce an open competition for the starter's job in Detriot. Meanwhile, Palmer says he'll miss the guy (). After the signing of Kitna, the Lions still want to sign McCown (for a 3-way? err.. 3-way competition?). Martz loves seeding a good (and prolonged) QB controversy. None of these guys are great, but they're all close enough to give fans plenty of options for why they should hate whoever happens to be under center at the time and how easy it would be to fix the situation with a constant QB carousel. Meanwhile, the Raiders have McCown in town for a visit. They need to get someone. Bengals are looking more like they'll be replacing Kitna with J Martin (rams #3 QB in 2006) in the #2 QB role. A bit scary since he stunk pretty bad last year and Palmer may not be ready to start the season. The Saints' signing obviouly has the most far reaching implications regarding the draft.

03-14-2006, 11:59 PM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) they may be. the Lions aren't going to trade a pick for him and the Raiders don't seem to care. The Dolphins still need short term insurance ssince Gus is gone, and the Jets are also interested (also as insurance). Those are the best chances he has to start.

03-15-2006, 12:04 AM	#5
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) QB carousel.

03-15-2006, 01:59 PM	#6
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) oakland wants to resign collins bears and the vikings are looking at mccown as a backup.

03-15-2006, 02:01 PM	#7
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) Packers \| Favre asks for team to be active in free agency Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:40:14 -0800 Chris Mortensen, of ESPN.com, reports Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre has told the Packers' front office to become more active in free agency and he will return to the team. bribe them to spend money by offering to come back with your massive one year contract (7-12mill) :P

03-14-2006, 11:57 PM	#2
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 55 Posts: 1,559	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) In the mean time, where does all of this leave poor Patrick Ramsey? I guess he will eventually get picked up to be a backup somewhere else, like he was with the Skins last year. His starting days are over.

03-14-2006, 11:58 PM	#3
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) MIA should keep Frerotte and Culpepper. Kitna is getting a raw deal. He should've demanded a trade after CIN announced that Palmer was taking over.

03-15-2006, 03:29 PM	#8
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) I wonder if Arizona would give us anything of value for Ramsey. Who's their backup QB now that McCown is gone? __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

03-15-2006, 11:28 PM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) Alright, here's today's update: Lions \| Harrington wants out Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:47:36 -0800 Tom Kowalski, of mLive.com, reports Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington has told the Lions' front office and coaching staff that he does not want to play in Detroit. The Lions have been in talks with free agent QB Josh McCown (Cardinals), which could allow the team to move Harrington. Eagles \| Garcia agrees to deal Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:31:23 -0800 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles and free agent QB Jeff Garcia (Lions) have agreed in principle to a deal. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. Saints \| Brooks released Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:15:00 -0800 The NFL Network reports the New Orleans Saints have released QB Aaron Brooks, making him an unrestricted free agent. Dolphins \| Culpepper passes physical Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:20:42 -0800 ESPNews reports Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper (knee) passed his physical Wednesday, March 15, which makes the trade from the Minnesota Vikings for a 2006 second-round draft choice complete. Saints \| Brees' signing would not discourage Leinart from coming Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:42:44 -0800 Jimmy Smith, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports Southern California QB Matt Leinart's agent, Leigh Steinberg, said the New Orleans Saints' signing of QB Drew Brees will not deter his client from coming to New Orleans if the team selects him with the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft. "From Matt's perspective, we have always assumed there would be a veteran starter with any franchise that drafted him," Steinberg said, "and (assumed) he would not be the immediate starter, wherever he would go, and spending some time learning has proven to be advantageous for a number of the best quarterbacks in football." so garcia moves to philly, harrington wants out (with the possibility of 3 average QBs in town), brooks is finally out, and leinhart would rather go #2 than #3 or lower.

03-16-2006, 01:42 AM	#11
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) Dolphins \| Team has interest in re-signing Frerotte Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:58:11 -0800 Armando Salguero, of the Miami Herald, reports the Miami Dolphins have interest in re-signing free agent QB Gus Frerotte (Dolphins) to serve as the team's No. 2 quarterback. Dolphins \| Team restructures Culpepper's contract Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:57:47 -0800 Armando Salguero, of the Miami Herald, reports Miami Dolphins QB Daunte Culpepper restructured his contract Wednesday, March 15. The team turned what was supposed to be a $6 million bonus and $2 million base salary in 2006 into a $7 million bonus and $1 million base. The new contract has a cap savings of nearly $5 million.

03-16-2006, 04:15 AM	#12
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) Packers \| Latest team to show interest in McCown Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:09:03 -0800 Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports the Green Bay Packers have expressed interest in free agent QB Josh McCown (Cardinals) and may host him for a visit. Bills \| Team to visit with Nall Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:04:23 -0800 Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports free agent QB Craig Nall (Packers) will visit with the Buffalo Bills Thursday, March 16. more teams looking for QBs not named ramsey. At least PR is going to meet with the bucs now.

03-16-2006, 02:17 PM	#13
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) Lions \| Team will have competition for starting quarterback role Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:38:37 -0800 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports Detroit Lions QB Jon Kitna will compete with QB Josh McCown for the starting quarterback role. Lions \| Harrington likely released Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:38:14 -0800 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington will likely get released from the team. Harrington is due a $4 million roster bonus on June 15 and is scheduled to have a base salary of $4.5 million for the 2006 season. His release would save the team approximately $5.4 million in salary cap space. Lions \| McCown signed to two-year contract Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:37:51 -0800 Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Detroit Lions have signed free agent QB Josh McCown (Cardinals) to a two-year contract worth $6 million. The deal will pay him $4 million in 2006 between his signing bonus and base salary. not unexpected. Ramsey is now the premeire QB on the market with brooks, and soon harrington (who's the biggest bust of the 3). Ramsey is the least likely to make mistakes, so maybe now he'll have value to the teams that lost on mccown. A couple teams prefer ferotte, but he should find a home soon, and there's a good chance it'll be with the vikes instead of back in miami.

03-16-2006, 02:19 PM	#14
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: FA QB mama-drama (3/14) I thought I read somewhere that Gus could be headed to Denver __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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