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[quote=Mattyk72;518344]Yeah I agree, I was just tossing that out there. If MH was cut there would be a number of teams lining up to sign him as their starter.[/quote]

I think he would be a great mentor for JC but I really can't see him wanting to be the back up somewhere especially knowing that he's the best QB on the team (well atleast in a win now situation). It would help speed up JC's development to have a proven or quality QB mentoring him

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;518304]The only way I bring in Hasselbeck is under these conditions: he comes cheap, and he understands that he is the clearcut backup for 2009 and is a mentor for JC.

Beyond that will depend on Campbell's development. If JC falters Hasselbeck takes over in 2010. If JC is worthy of a new contract and is the clear answer for the long term, we cut Hasselbeck to let him try to start elsewhere.[/quote]

Mentor for JC? Sorry Matty, but I think JC has been around long enough not to need a mentor. And if he does still need a mentor after being a starter for 2 full seasons, then you have to ask the question is JC a bona fide starting QB? To me, if JC flounders or does not show progression in '09 his butt is gone. Statwise, with the exception of the TD/INT ratio, he is just above Gus Frerotte level, and unfortuantely as much as I liked Gus back in the day, he never really made a progression either.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;518410]Mentor for JC? Sorry Matty, but I think JC has been around long enough not to need a mentor. And if he does still need a mentor after being a starter for 2 full seasons, then you have to ask the question is JC a bona fide starting QB? To me, if JC flounders or does not show progression in '09 his butt is gone. Statwise, with the exception of the TD/INT ratio, he is just above Gus Frerotte level, and unfortuantely as much as I liked Gus back in the day, he never really made a progression either.[/quote]

A mentor in this offense certainly wouldn't hurt. Although it's probably a year too late.

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

[quote=Bill B;518270]Saw a report that Matt Hasselback is entering the final year of his contract with the Seahawks and his cap number is $6.3 million and he may be a possible cut. With the coach leaving the team maybe the Seahawks would consider cutting him? If he were to get cut should the Skins make a run and sign him? If the Skins signed him I guess this would send the clear message to JC that he is not the future - Scout.com said Hasselback at 33 still has 3-4 good years left in his career. My gut tells me leave qb alone and just start building the lines....

[url=http://sea.scout.com/2/815943.html]Scout.com: Cut Matt Hasselbeck?[/url][/quote]

Go with your gut.

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

[quote=saden1;518364]The Seahawks are not going to cut Matt Hasselback. I would wager $500 he'll be a Seahawk for a few more years. They have nobody that can step in and play QB and if this team doesn't win Hawks fans will go the way of the dodo. They're a fickle bunch up here and their management isn't going to mess with what's working out of fear of losing the fan base. I expect them to draft a QB in April though.

Of course if his back is total shit, he'll be shit-canned quickly.[/quote]

I agree 100%. They're not cutting him. No way. He's still a pretty good Qb that has taken a team to the SB. He was hurt last year and his line sucks. If they cut him who's gonna play QB? Seneca Wallace? Actually Wallace comes in and plays well but he's not a 16 game starter. Hassleback isn't going anywhere.

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Kind of surprised about all the interest over Matt. Nothing personal but I could give two-shits where he plays next year. The only thing I ever think about hearing his name is the insane hit Smoot put on him in last year's playoff game. Hasselback's leg was a giant bruise (he looked pathetic against Green Bay the next week). Fond memory of Smoot... maybe he deserves another year. As nickel? And he has to practice more or something, i don't know but i get the feeling Smoot parties his arse off.

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A healthy MH would be an improvement in places like Minny, Chicago, and Detroit. Seattle is getting a new head coach, so who knows what direction Mora Jr. will go. I think MH would be serviceable here as a back up and nothing else, a more talented Todd Collins.

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

So Ruskell said yesterday that Hasselbeck isn't going anywhere

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

thank god. we have enough old heads on this team

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;518283]He still has some quality years left in him as a starter, not sure that he would want to come here as a backup.[/quote]

If he comes here and there is fair open competition for starting QB then he will be the starter. He's a proven pro bowl QB that still has a bunch of good years in front of him. He's not Bruenell who was obviously finished when the Skins picked him up. JC hasnt really shown anything and its still not clear he ever will. That said, I'm not sure the Skins should sign him. For some reason it really bothers me that the Skins cant draft and develop their own players and always have to rely on FAs to attempt to bolster the team. This method isnt working and successful teams dont really do it that way.

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[quote=irish;519107]If he comes here and there is fair open competition for starting QB then he will be the starter. He's a proven pro bowl QB that still has a bunch of good years in front of him. [B]He's not Bruenell who was obviously finished when the Skins picked him up.[/B] JC hasnt really shown anything and its still not clear he ever will. That said, I'm not sure the Skins should sign him. For some reason it really bothers me that the Skins cant draft and develop their own players and always have to rely on FAs to attempt to bolster the team. This method isnt working and successful teams dont really do it that way.[/quote]Wait, exactly how isn't he any different from Brunell when he came here?

That's actually a really good comparison that never really crossed my mind. So, thanks, I guess.

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[quote=GTripp0012;519122]Wait, exactly how isn't he any different from Brunell when he came here?

That's actually a really good comparison that never really crossed my mind. So, thanks, I guess.[/quote]

MHs arm still works, MBs didnt.

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[quote=irish;519149]MHs arm still works, MBs didnt.[/quote]

Unfotunaley, MH's back doesn't work.

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[quote=irish;519149]MHs arm still works, MBs didnt.[/quote]I think there was a year (2004) where Brunell was playing through an arm injury, and then he hurt his knee late in 2005, but I don't see where his arm just stopped working. I mean, even this year in the preseason for NO, he's still got a lot of zip on the ball.

He started 37 games here, including the 2005 playoffs, and very rarely was a lack of arm strength ever an issue, if I remember correctly. Last I remember the guy was setting completion records while Brandon Lloyd was on the field running God-knows-what.

And yeah, isn't Hasselbeck's back injury every bit as bad as whatever Brunell had that forced him out of Jacksonville (Leftwich-itis?)

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[quote=GTripp0012;519152]I think there was a year (2004) where Brunell was playing through an arm injury, and then he hurt his knee late in 2005, but I don't see where his arm just stopped working. I mean, even this year in the preseason for NO, he's still got a lot of zip on the ball.

He started 37 games here, including the 2005 playoffs, and very rarely was a lack of arm strength ever an issue, if I remember correctly. Last I remember the guy was setting completion records while Brandon Lloyd was on the field running God-knows-what.

And yeah, isn't Hasselbeck's back injury every bit as bad as whatever Brunell had that forced him out of Jacksonville (Leftwich-itis?)[/quote]

MB never threw the ball more than 5 yds. I'm sure almost anybody can zip a 5 yd pass. Like I said, I dont think the Skins should sign MH. He's not the answer to the Skins problems at QB.

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[quote=irish;519163]MB never threw the ball more than 5 yds. I'm sure almost anybody can zip a 5 yd pass. Like I said, I dont think the Skins should sign MH. He's not the answer at QB.[/quote]I think you and I have a different definition of 'never', or perhaps '5 yards' but either way, it's still somewhat dumb to use the absence of an event for proof of the contrary.

But yeah, I see Hasselbeck as a guy in decline, and he can probably hang on for 5 more years in the NFL, but I don't think he'll play like he did in 2005 anytime in the near future. Perhaps in a more powerful offense, he could be successful.

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all the back and forth makes me think MH would be the perfect backup in DALLAS!!!!

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I shouldn't have let this thread get this far.

Unless there's major progress towards a CBA extension, we can't afford Hasselbeck without decimating our team at numerous other positions, cutting some of the vets we have and replacing them with bums or rookies.

The salary cap situation doesn't practically allow for it.

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[quote=Schneed10;519205]I shouldn't have let this thread get this far.

Unless there's major progress towards a CBA extension, we can't afford Hasselbeck without decimating our team at numerous other positions, cutting some of the vets we have and replacing them with bums or rookies.

The salary cap situation doesn't practically allow for it.[/quote]Well, and then there's the fact that he's actually the starting quarterback of another team, and has a very large contract with them.

But, on the other hand, it's the offseason...so, you know

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

[quote=Schneed10;519205]I shouldn't have let this thread get this far.

Unless there's major progress towards a CBA extension, we can't afford Hasselbeck without decimating our team at numerous other positions, cutting some of the vets we have and replacing them with bums or rookies.

The salary cap situation doesn't practically allow for it.[/quote]

I think the discussion also turned into one about other possible destinations for MH. I know, not relevant for the Redskins, but interesting for football fans in general.

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Unless he came over for the vet min. (which he'd never do), hellz NO!!!

We already have Campbell and Collins...and the other guy.

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

If the Colts released Payton Manning should the Skins make a run at signing him?

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

[quote=Schneed10;519205]I shouldn't have let this thread get this far.

Unless there's major progress towards a CBA extension, we can't afford Hasselbeck without decimating our team at numerous other positions, cutting some of the vets we have and replacing them with bums or rookies.

The salary cap situation doesn't practically allow for it.[/quote]


Schneed - I am not sure MH would get the break the bank contract though if everyone is as concerned about his back as people are saying. I will say though that I was just throwing a hypothetical out there to see what people would say given that Zorn and Hasselback have a close relationship and with Seattle getting a new coach maybe the team goes in a new direction - that's all.

Also, with regards to your post on not being able to sign MH without decimating the other parts of our roster - wouldn't this also be applicable to all these other threads on the Warpath about signing Julius Peppers, Jordan Gross and other big time unrestricted/restricted/soon to be franchised players as well? I guess I just look at some other posts and see "lets sign a big time player that would fill a need" - but at the same time wouldn't the team that that player is currently on like Carolina with Peppers make the financial committment as well (unless it is the Steelers teams like Carolina are not going to let their important lineman just get up and walk without a fight. Also signing a Gross or Peppers (if we wanted to part with picks if he is franchised) would also cause some major financial stress to the cap I would think - right?

Personally, I wish the Skins would just make a committment to build through the draft - even if it meant some bad years. Let the team flush away some of it major contracts while it trys to get younger and then use FA to bolster a position here and there. I liked when the Skins traded down last year to get more picks - although I wish they used some of the picks on more need areas like DE and the offensive line more.

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[quote=saden1;519471]If the Colts released Payton Manning should the Skins make a run at signing him?[/quote]


Heck yes - although the Colts are going to cut Harrison to deal with Peyton's massive contract.

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[quote=saden1;519471]If the Colts released Payton Manning should the Skins make a run at signing him?[/quote]

Only if we can get their offensive line too.

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

If we do not upgrade the line and had Hasselbeck in at QB, he'd get killed, he's not as mobile as Campbell.

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

NO. If he can't block or tackle, the Skins don't need him.

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this thread is still going? even after the hawks said Hasselback isnt going anywhere?

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

[quote=saden1;519471]If the Colts released Payton Manning should the Skins make a run at signing him?[/quote]

Yes, if the Skins had Manning this year they'd have easily been in the playoffs.

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 

Hasselback is done! its over for that guy!

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[quote=FlyWonderful23;520419]Hasselback is done! its over for that guy![/quote]Welcome to the board. Do you happen to be a gangster from the 30's?