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[quote=SmootSmack;526966]Bengals have claimed Plack, I think[/quote]

Yep, good for them and him.

[B][URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/13/bengals-pounce-on-plackemeier/"]BENGALS POUNCE ON PLACKEMEIER[/URL][/B]

Posted by Mike Florio on February 13, 2009, 4:35 p.m.
The Cincinnati Bengals have claimed punter Ryan Plackemeier on waivers from the Redskins, the team announced on Friday.
Plackemeier had been waived by the Seahawks during the 2008 season, and he signed with Washington on October 15.
Kyle Larson is the other punter on the roster; he has held the job for the last five years. Signed through 2012, Larson is scheduled to earn a base salary of $1 million in 2009.

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Placks now a Bengal. Wow sucks for him. I actually thought he was ok

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Do people have short memories around here or what?

Plackemeier was 28th in the league in punting average last year, and 37th in net avg. Outside of one game he was awful.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=punt&pos=off&league=nfl&season=2&year=2008]NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk72;526984]Do people have short memories around here or what?

Plackemeier was 28th in the league in punting average last year, and 37th in net avg. Outside of one game he was awful.

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=punt&pos=off&league=nfl&season=2&year=2008"]NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

Yep, they must. Good riddance and don't come back!

The guy is awful! One decent game against philly, thats it. There's a really good reason he's gone it's called HE SUCKS! Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.....

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He doesnt suck. hes been off lately but this guy has great potenetial. hes only 24 years old and it was his 3rd year pro . I think we should have kept him one more year. Check out his stats for 06 He was 4th in the league

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=punt&season=2&year=2006]NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League - ESPN[/url]
Also his stats started coming up late in the year with his best game at Philly earning him special player of the week with 4 of his kicks within the 10YL

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Plackemeier_Named_NFC_Special_Teams_Player_of_Week_29931.jsp]Plackemeier Named NFC Special Teams Player of Week[/url]

I think the Bengals were smart to go after him.

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I still cant believe they cut him in the off season.

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[quote=44ever;527001]He doesnt suck. hes been off lately but this guy has great potenetial. hes only 24 years old and it was his 3rd year pro . I think we should have kept him one more year. Check out his stats for 06 He was 4th in the league

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=punt&season=2&year=2006"]NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League - ESPN[/URL]
Also his stats started coming up late in the year with his best game at Philly earning him special player of the week with 4 of his kicks within the 10YL

[URL="http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Plackemeier_Named_NFC_Special_Teams_Player_of_Week_29931.jsp"]Plackemeier Named NFC Special Teams Player of Week[/URL]

I think the Bengals were smart to go after him.[/quote]

Off lately? Besides his rookie year he's been pretty bad. 1 good season out of 4 puts you in the 'kinda sucks' category.

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[quote=Mattyk72;527019]Off lately? Besides his rookie year he's been pretty bad. 1 good season out of 4 puts you in the 'kinda sucks' category.[/quote]

Ok well Ill go with "kinda sucks" :) I just wanted to see one more season just to see. I dont blame the skins for dumping him.

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[quote=Mattyk72;526944]Yeah I'm just saying there are other punters available, not just Lechler. Smootsmack hinted perhaps Hunter Smith.[/quote]

Update on Smith

[url=http://www.indystar.com/article/20090218/SPORTS03/902180364/1058/SPORTS03]Colts to allow Smith to test free agency | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;527670]Update on Smith

[URL="http://www.indystar.com/article/20090218/SPORTS03/902180364/1058/SPORTS03"]Colts to allow Smith to test free agency | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star[/URL][/quote]

Sign him up!

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Lechler or Smith. Either one would give us some stability at that position.

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While Smith is definatly an upgrade from Plack. I dont think we should jump on him without exploring the possibility of signing Lechler. 53 spoke of both punters bringing stability and they would. But if you look at the stats for the last 4 years, its obvious Lechler sets the standard for stability while Smith is good he is up and down. I added Plack in just to show contrast.

[B]Rankings............2005........2006........2007.........2008[/B]
Lechler................2nd............2nd.........1st...........2nd
Smith..................5th............10th........21st.........12th
Plack...................---............4th..........32nd.........28th

Smith had a great 08 season but he has consistantly declined from 05 to 07 with a good showing for 08

Where Lechler has been in the top 2 for the last four seasons. While I would welcome Smith, Im not sure I would jump on him to fast if there is a chance to land Lechler

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But what if Smith is 2-3 million dollars cheaper?

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[quote=SmootSmack;527707]But what if Smith is 2-3 million dollars cheaper?[/quote]

He probably will be. Its just hard to watch a FA like Lechler slide if we could get him. But back to reality, yes Smith would be the logical choice as far as $$$ is concerned. If the best SS player is the main objective then Lechler.

I wonder sometimes if our only FA move was Lechler and did everything else in the draft how that would work. Then i remember we only have 4 picks so I would still welcome Smith. But will he continue to play at his 08 level? I guess any way you look at it we would be in better shape with Smith than Plack.

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[quote=SmootSmack;527707]But what if Smith is 2-3 million dollars cheaper?[/quote]

I think he would be the better choice, more bang for the buck.

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[quote=SmootSmack;527707]But what if Smith is 2-3 million dollars cheaper?[/quote]

Smoot, If Smith and Lechler dont work out. How much you think it would take to get this guy? :)
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=XI9VfNQHo9s&feature=related]YouTube - David Beckham: Field Goal Kicker (Futbol meets Football)[/url]

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Plack sucked , and I'm glad he's gone to mess up the Cincinnati Bungles kicking game...

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If Hunter Smith would sign here for something close to league minimum, I'd rather have him then Lechler.

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[quote=SmootSmack;527707]But what if Smith is 2-3 million dollars cheaper?[/quote]

I think it was Danny Smith who said that there are about 6 good punters and the rest are pretty much interchangeable. In terms of dollars, paying top dollar for Lechler equates to paying back-up money to a tackle. Yet, a good punter will have a much bigger impact on the game.

Because punters are cheap to begin with, I would pay top dollar for Lechler. In the big picture, punter is the cheapest place to get a difference maker.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;527849]I think it was Danny Smith who said that there are about 6 good punters and the rest are pretty much interchangeable. In terms of dollars, paying top dollar for Lechler equates to paying back-up money to a tackle. Yet, a good punter will have a much bigger impact on the game.

Because punters are cheap to begin with, I would pay top dollar for Lechler. In the big picture, punter is the cheapest place to get a difference maker.[/quote]

I strongly agree with you Joe. I believe most people underestimate the importance of a great kicking game. I would rather have a guy like Lechler who can consistently pin the opposing team deep in there own territory. Than say a Haynesworth who by himself can't do as much and cost a lot more $$$ When we played Philly the second game and Plack pinned them within there 10 YL four times it changed there offense they felt rushed and made mistakes. Plack won us that game IMO.

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[quote=44ever;527856]I strongly agree with you Joe. I believe most people underestimate the importance of a great kicking game. I would rather have a guy like Lechler who can consistently pin the opposing team deep in there own territory. Than say a Haynesworth who by himself can't do as much and cost a lot more $$$ [B]When we played Philly the second game and Plack pinned them within there 10 YL four times it changed there offense they felt rushed and made mistakes. Plack won us that game IMO.[/B][/quote]

I think having that in almost every game would be huge.

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If it's between Smith and Lechler I say take the best guy and pay for what you get rather than trying to take a bargain, If we want the punting game to change , Let's take the best punter available ...

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Lechler just signed a 4 year deal with the Raiders

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;527882]Lechler just signed a 4 year deal with the Raiders[/quote]

Yep, heard it on the radio here in the Bay area.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;527901]Yep, heard it on the radio here in the Bay area.[/quote]

4 years, $12 million. I thought it'd be around $15 million. Colts kept Kelvin Hayden as well.

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[quote=SmootSmack;527918]4 years, $12 million. I thought it'd be around $15 million. Colts kept Kelvin Hayden as well.[/quote]

Damn! I guess the Lechler thread is over now.

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RAIDERS REEL IN LECHLER
Posted by Mike Florio on February 18, 2009, 9:47 p.m.

At a time when it appeared that Raiders punter Shane Lechler would leave via free agency, the team worked out a new contract with the man owning one of the strongest legs in the game.

According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, Lechler will receive $12 million over four years, with $9 million guaranteed.

Lechler is the first punter to receive an average of $3 million per year.

Some league observers thought that the Raiders were ready to move on, given that Lechler was allegedly thumped on a plane flight home from a road game by defensive tackle Terdell Sands — and that Sands faced no discipline.

Then again, it was just a punter.

The move also clears the way for the Raiders to use the franchise tag on Nnamdi Asomugha. According to RaiderBeat.com, a fairly new team-specific web site with a domain name that is crying out for a cease-and-desist letter from the organization, Asomugha and the team are closing in on a deal.

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[quote=Mattyk72;526984]Do people have short memories around here or what?

Plackemeier was 28th in the league in punting average last year, and 37th in net avg. Outside of one game he was awful.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=punt&pos=off&league=nfl&season=2&year=2008]NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League - ESPN[/url][/quote]

OK Plack was 28th in the league and Dirk Johnson was 27th. I my missing somthing here Matty? Was this a big upgrade?

RNK NAME .......................PUNTS YDS AVG LNG IN20 IN20% TB TB% BP RET YDS AVG NET
27 Dirk Johnson ...P, ARI/WAS 40 ..1670 41.8 59 ..13 ..32.5 ....4 10.0 ..0 19 ...182 9.6 35.2
28 R. Plackemeier P, SEA/WAS 66 ..2741 41.5 62 ..17 ..25.8 ...10 15.2 .1 27 ...310 11.5 33.8

In 2006 Plack was ranked 4th Johnson 24th what gives?