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SBXVII 10-23-2009 11:04 AM

Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season
 
[quote=mredskins;614413]"Love is in the air!" So cute.[/quote]

You like that...;).....don't be jealous. I can like more then one person. :)

Longtimefan 10-23-2009 11:06 AM

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[quote=Buster;614344]This is assuming Vinny is there for the rest of the season. :D


I expect them both to be gone after Week 17's game, but I still do not think it is impossible that Zorn is fired this season after some horribly-embarrassing game that gets Snyder's blood boiling.[/quote]

If you listen closely to what Cerrato is saying here, not only is he endorsing Jim Zorn as HC for the remainder of the season, he sounds as though he intends to be here as well.

Cerrato said: I want to make "a few things perfectly clear" Jim Zorn is the HC of the Washington Redskins for the rest of the season, and hopefully into the future.......frightning!!

"Hopefully into the future"

SBXVII 10-23-2009 11:08 AM

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I can live with Zorn for the remainder of the season, kinda half expected it. However, VC is another matter. Maybe DS could show good faith to the fans and shit can VC to show he is looking to handle the Skins in the future the right way. or not and let VC keep pissing off the fans with his diatribe.

CRedskinsRule 10-23-2009 11:10 AM

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I think Vinny wants Zorn here longer, because that is the only way he will keep his job. I have no doubt that Snyder is putting intense pressure on VC to force something good to happen. If it doesn't sayonara VC

sandtrapjack 10-23-2009 11:17 AM

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[quote=firstdown;614409]Yea, this comes from a Boy's fan who has a coach that looks like someone stomped on his Wally World's doll after every negative play or Romo int. They also brought in the guy who was suppose to take his place when he was fired but he cannot even run the O so they kept old stupid to run the team.[/quote]
Well, if it makes you feel better we could compare head coaches. Just to see which one makes more sense keeping for the season.

Why don't you go ahead and do that, then get back to me.

firstdown 10-23-2009 11:25 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;614417]The sad thing is after the fans being so disgruntled, the media speculation, the fans most likely won't be happy with this turn of events, so I hope DS is ready for some more "Booing" and "Sell the team" and "Vinny must go" chants while at games. That's second to fans selling their tickets which some have started to do. At work we have people offering up Skins/Eagle tickets for free and no one wants them.

I just get the feeling it's going to get a lot uglier before seasons end.

Bilking fans
VC
Losing team
Selling beer in the bathroom
etc. etc. etc.[/quote]
Whats wrong with selling beer in the bathroom? It ends up there at some point anyways unless your at the new Dallas stadium and you just take a leak on the first star you see.

Lotus 10-23-2009 11:37 AM

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This announcement would have had more oomph if it came from Danny, since he can still fire both Zorn and VC late Monday night. But I hope that this sticks. When I've thought about who would take over for the rest of the year if Zorn were fired, I've become ill.

over the mountain 10-23-2009 12:07 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;614355]Could serve as the public endorsement the players have been calling for. It does offer just a "little" stability to what otherwise has become a calamity. If there's any such thing as the "lesser of two evils" then Zorn is probably the best option at least until the end of the season.[/quote]

longtime fan, i like and agree with alot of your posts, this one as well sir.

go skins!!

SC Skins Fan 10-23-2009 12:10 PM

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Are we really placing great faith in this report? Because Vinny said it then it must be true? He also said that he hopes Zorn is the coach for many years in the future. I guess that is technically true because it would mean there was some sort of miraculous turnaround, but we all know that is complete bull. Total spin from VC. Also just setting the cover in case they are able to fire Zorn for cause at some point or if he resigns under pressure. "Hey we wanted him to succeed and gave him every opportunity to do so, but he did X so we had to let him go (and not pay him)."

Probably Zorn is the coach for the duration, maybe he is not. Vinny saying he will be is next to worthless.

MTK 10-23-2009 12:16 PM

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;614473]Are we really placing great faith in this report? Because Vinny said it then it must be true? He also said that he hopes Zorn is the coach for many years in the future. I guess that is technically true because it would mean there was some sort of miraculous turnaround, but we all know that is complete bull. Total spin from VC. Also just setting the cover in case they are able to fire Zorn for cause at some point or if he resigns under pressure. "Hey we wanted him to succeed and gave him every opportunity to do so, but he did X so we had to let him go (and not pay him)."

Probably Zorn is the coach for the duration, maybe he is not. Vinny saying he will be is next to worthless.[/quote]

Honestly even before this "endorsement" I was thinking Zorn would probably last the season. Snyder doesn't want to fire yet another coach during the season making the job even less desirable than it already is.

skinsguy 10-23-2009 12:24 PM

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Well, if I'm Jim Zorn, I have no idea whether if I am relieved about this or what? Part of me can't help but to think the screws will continue to be tightened on Zorn as the season progresses until he finally screams uncle.

SmootSmack 10-23-2009 12:30 PM

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Watch next week, they tell Zorn that Chris Meidt will be the new QB coach

Two weeks later, they tell Zorn that Joe Bugel will be holding the press conferences

Three weeks later, they tell Zorn that Stan Hixon will be attending Zorn's kids' parent-teachers conferences

Four week later, they tell Zorn that John Palermo will be sitting at the head of the dinner table at the Zorn home for Thanksgiving

skinsguy 10-23-2009 12:37 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;614487]Watch next week, they tell Zorn that Chris Meidt will be the new QB coach

Two weeks later, they tell Zorn that Joe Bugel will be holding the press conferences

Three weeks later, they tell Zorn that Stan Hixon will be attending Zorn's kids' parent-teachers conferences

Four week later, they tell Zorn that John Palermo will be sitting at the head of the dinner table at the Zorn home for Thanksgiving[/quote]

LOL! Man, I hate to see what happens during Christmas!

GMScud 10-23-2009 12:42 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;614476]Honestly even before this "endorsement" I was thinking Zorn would probably last the season. Snyder doesn't want to fire yet another coach during the season making the job even less desirable than it already is.[/quote]

Yup. Plus without this endorsement, every single day in the media for the next 10 weeks you'd be hearing "is this it for Zorn?" or "latest update on Zorn's job status..." Those kind of constant distractions are bad for everyone in the organization.

Barring a miracle he's done in 10 games, but at least this lets the staff focus on trying to win a few games instead of putting out fires.

redsk1 10-23-2009 12:45 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;614487]Watch next week, they tell Zorn that Chris Meidt will be the new QB coach

Two weeks later, they tell Zorn that Joe Bugel will be holding the press conferences

Three weeks later, they tell Zorn that Stan Hixon will be attending Zorn's kids' parent-teachers conferences

Four week later, they tell Zorn that John Palermo will be sitting at the head of the dinner table at the Zorn home for Thanksgiving[/quote]

It's like that dude from Office Space that they keep moving farther and farther away til his desk is in the basement.

SC Skins Fan 10-23-2009 12:45 PM

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[quote=GMScud;614498]Yup. Plus without this endorsement, every single day in the media for the next 10 weeks you'd be hearing "is this it for Zorn?" or "latest update on Zorn's job status..." Those kind of constant distractions are bad for everyone in the organization.

Barring a miracle he's done in 10 games, but at least this lets the staff focus on trying to win a few games instead of putting out fires.[/quote]

I seriously doubt Cerrato's statement will stop anyone from speculating about Zorn's job status. I agree that was likely the goal, but I doubt it will have much effect.

GMScud 10-23-2009 01:05 PM

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[quote=redsk1;614501]It's like that dude from Office Space that they keep moving farther and farther away til his desk is in the basement.[/quote]

LOL! Good one. Milton. Taking Zorn's playcalling was like when someone took his stapler.

JoeRedskin 10-23-2009 01:20 PM

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"ummm, Jim.... ahhh, we going to be hiring a consultant...yeah, we're going to be letting him call the plays, but ... ahh ... if you want to, yeah, you should still come to the game on Monday."

Seriously, but some ugly glasses on VC and -> Vinny Cerratto, Bill Lumbergh separated at birth.

CRedskinsRule 10-23-2009 02:33 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;614518]"ummm, Jim.... ahhh, we going to be hiring a consultant...yeah, we're going to be letting him call the plays, but ... ahh ... if you want to, yeah, you should still come to the game on Monday."

Seriously, but some ugly glasses on VC and -> Vinny Cerratto, Bill Lumbergh separated at birth.[/quote]

be funnier if you had said Sunday. (yeah I know we play Monday.)

JoeRedskin 10-23-2009 02:49 PM

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^^ So now your giving comedy critiques? Don't you have work to do? Just laugh and be quiet. Nuff Said.

skinsfan69 10-23-2009 03:05 PM

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[quote=hooskins;614353]I love how some posters will find negativity in this move. The masses just want to bash ownership, and that is gonna happen regardless of what they do.

This was the right move by ownership/VC. Quell the media and give Zorn support. Now ESPN and SC can stfu about firing Zorn 24/7. This doesnt mean ownership is off the hook, but for now they did the right thing by endorsing the Z-man.[/quote]

Ownership and mgt deserve everything they're getting right now. And they're only endorsing him now cause Shanahan wouldn't take the job mid season.

CRedskinsRule 10-23-2009 03:14 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;614557]^^ So now your giving comedy critiques? Don't you have work to do? Just laugh and be quiet. Nuff Said.[/quote]

yes. no(well yes, but not doing it). stop being zesty. thread closed!

Swarley 10-23-2009 03:30 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;614359]It's a no win at this point.[/quote]

unless we do win!

tryfuhl 10-23-2009 09:47 PM

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[quote=redsk1;614360]I have no problem w/ keeping JZ for the rest of the season. I just don't believe anything VC sais. Never have. If the skins lose big and get embarrassed Monday we'll see if VC meant what he said.

VC shouldn't have a radio show anyways. Earlier in the year, VC had Mel Kiper on and was talking about the Notre Dame game. I can't remember who they were playing, but VC was saying that it was a must win for Weiss in order for him to keep his job.

MK then told Vinny that the Skins needed to beat the Lions or he'd lose his job. Nice reply by Mel Kiper.[/quote]
:laughing2

tryfuhl 10-23-2009 09:48 PM

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VC thinks that he's a good football mind, which is eff'd

He's quick to remind people of his ring with SF I hear

DBUCHANON101 10-23-2009 09:53 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;614788]VC thinks that he's a good football mind, which is eff'd

He's quick to remind people of his ring with SF I hear[/quote]

Well you know what they say about the sun and a dog's butt

tryfuhl 10-23-2009 10:05 PM

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;614790]Well you know what they say about the sun and a dog's butt[/quote]
must be a Louisiana thing, enlighten me

DBUCHANON101 10-23-2009 10:55 PM

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=snibbe/091023&sportCat=nfl]What did new Washington Redskins assistant coach Sherman Lewis find when he read Jim Zorn's playbook? - ESPN[/url]

Sad but kindof funny.

GMScud 10-24-2009 12:12 AM

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;614806][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=snibbe/091023&sportCat=nfl"]What did new Washington Redskins assistant coach Sherman Lewis find when he read Jim Zorn's playbook? - ESPN[/URL]

Sad but kindof funny.[/quote]

That's actually incredibly stupid. I'm not a fan of anything going on with our team right now, but that's so cheap and brainless I'm surprised it's on ESPN's site.

kdogg3270 10-24-2009 12:19 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;614343]I kinda expected this. Snyder doesn't want to fire another coach midseason... it's only going to reflect poorly on him in the end. Looking back I'm sure he regrets canning Norv during the season and wishes that didn't happen.

The best thing to do is ride out this season and then address things after the season ends.[/quote]

i actually went out and bought a new car the day, in fact one hour, after that happened lol.

DBUCHANON101 10-24-2009 12:54 AM

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[quote=tryfuhl;614792]must be a Louisiana thing, enlighten me[/quote]

That even the sun shines on a dog's @$$ once in a while. VC may take credit for what happened in SF but he hasnt done much since he got here except run this team into the ground.

DBUCHANON101 10-24-2009 12:57 AM

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[quote=GMScud;614828]That's actually incredibly stupid. I'm not a fan of anything going on with our team right now, but that's so cheap and brainless I'm surprised it's on ESPN's site.[/quote]

Im at work so i watched it without sound, i laughed when i saw some of the picks that were made out of the formations. Ill try it with the sound when i get home in the morning.. odds are its corny but at this point i gotta laugh to keep from crying.

Meks 10-24-2009 02:21 AM

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quote me.

this will prove to be the turning point in our season.

Meks 10-24-2009 02:26 AM

Re: Zorn to coach the rest of the season
 
[quote=DBUCHANON101;614806][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=snibbe/091023&sportCat=nfl"]What did new Washington Redskins assistant coach Sherman Lewis find when he read Jim Zorn's playbook? - ESPN[/URL]

Sad but kindof funny.[/quote]



i posted. .... u sir, are a disgrace to ESPN.


becuz that shit was a disgrace.

CRedskinsRule 10-24-2009 07:11 AM

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well the one where the WR ran in circles could have been called for ARE. I thought it was normal piling on, but funny enough.

sandtrapjack 10-24-2009 09:15 AM

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I do not think this "backing" of Zorn is slowing down any agenda at all.

Even though they have assured Zorn the season at the least, that does not mean that a coaching search and interview process can not commence immediately. Just because Zorn has the job for the season, does not stop Snyder from interviewing as early as Tuesday.

Front office can start screening and interviewing, taking thier time over the next couple fo months so they have a solid candadite, with an "agreement in priciple" already in place by January.

This does not slow down the process at all. Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren, Gruden...none would ever take a coaching job mid-season. Reports are that Shanahan already turned the job down the week after the Detroit loss.

But that does not mean that Danny-boy cannot convince Shanahah (or any of the other top tier coaches) over the next 8-10 weeks to take the job for next season.

tryfuhl 10-24-2009 02:29 PM

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[quote=GMScud;614828]That's actually incredibly stupid. I'm not a fan of anything going on with our team right now, but that's so cheap and brainless I'm surprised it's on ESPN's site.[/quote]
it's from their "Page 2" section if that makes it any better

tryfuhl 10-24-2009 02:29 PM

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;614835]That even the sun shines on a dog's @$$ once in a while. VC may take credit for what happened in SF but he hasnt done much since he got here except run this team into the ground.[/quote]
ahhhh got it :)

CultBrennan59 10-24-2009 03:19 PM

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Don't be surprised if a loss to the eagles changes snyders mind, and keep in mind that the person saying this is someone who is on the hot seat as well. At the end of the day snyder has the final say.

CrustyRedskin 10-24-2009 11:13 PM

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But what if Zorny somehow makes a drastick turn around and we suddenly win a few? Na never mind.....


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