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CRedskinsRule 10-11-2010 03:54 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;746501]Forget this imaginary Super Bowl Kool-Aid you speak of. Do you not appreciate at all that we have won back-to-back key games? That we are 2-0 in the division? That these are games that in the past the players, like the fans, would have given up on after the 1st quarter? Do you not see the positives of the season so far? Do you not realize that before you even play in the Super Bowl you have to make the playoffs and to make the playoffs you have to win games? Does none of that even remotely resonate with you?[/quote]

Smoot,
You sound a bit like JoeRedskin. Take that however you want :D

CRedskinsRule 10-11-2010 04:06 PM

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[quote=calia;746508]A win is a win, and being 3-2 is a lot better than 2-3 (and we could easily have been 4-1). All of this is pretty positive, and this team does seem to have the will to win, which is unquestionably a change from recent years.

What's troubling me most is our O-line and our D (which are obviously related in that the failure to sustain drives puts our D on the field a lot). But we have shown flashes and shown improvement during games and over the course of the season.

Our team D is last -- dead last -- in the league in yards per game. But we're 9th in the league in points given up. At some point, those yards per game are going to translate into some real points (which hasn't been the case in a couple of games we've played -- yesterday's being a good example), and we don't have the offensive power to score tons of points. So unless we can get better at the O-line somehow (blocking schemes, getting the ball out faster, getting our running game going), if our D will continue to give up these kinds of yards, we're going to start coming up short more often than not.

I do trust, however, that we have good coaches who can figure this out within the limits of the talent we have on the team. And winning a game like this one should give us confidence that we really can play with anyone.[/quote]

The Saints last year were 25th in total D, but 13th in points allowed. That seems to be the model we are following. We are living by the turnovers, and so far being successful creating and taking advantage of them (mostly). We also have played some very good teams (Rams excluded) and held them in check points wise, this is a better test than last year's 0fers that we ended up looking incompetent against

KI Skins Fan 10-11-2010 04:59 PM

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The Best: Winning a hard-fought game in overtime!

The Worst: Negative people who can't enjoy a win and bring me down by nit-picking the ever-lovin' shit out of everything about it.

I am an unabashed Redskins fan and homer from the "Just win, Baby!" school of football. If our untalented but scrappy team manages to luck into enough wins, we'll go to the playoffs, as unworthy as we may be on paper. And I'll love it! Meanwhile, there will be some much more talented teams with cleaner uniforms sitting at home during the playoffs.

Football is played on the field. At the end of the game, the scoreboard tells you who is the better team. The game isn't decided by who has the better looking roster.

I know we're building and that many other teams have more talent than we do. But I'll tell you this: whoever beats us had better bring it on the day they play us because they're in for a fight. Right now, what more can we fans ask of our team?

SmootSmack 10-11-2010 05:22 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;746523]Smoot,
You sound a bit like JoeRedskin. Take that however you want :D[/quote]

So I sound a little like this?

[YT]0pK5HmuCMBM[/YT]

mlmdub130 10-11-2010 06:10 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;746393][url=http://www.fredericksburg.com/video/2010/102010/20101010-skinspackersslides/index.html]Week 5: Redskins Defeat Packers In Overtime: 16-13[/url]

good pictures[/quote]

no s those are really good number 14 is my favorite i wish i could copy it but it won't let me. it looks like the ref is trying to console rodgers while at the same time he isn't sure if orakpo is gonna kick his ass and then rip arron rodgers is half. orakpo is a beast.

SirClintonPortis 10-11-2010 06:26 PM

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[quote=Lotus;746519]It seems like you are creating a straw dog argument. No one is seriously talking about the Super Bowl - except for you. I'm not sure I get the point of knocking down a non-argument.

So far this year we have been competitive. I personally am going to enjoy that fact for what it is.[/quote]

People are accusing me of not being happy with a win when I'm just keeping stuff in one of the two perspectives that matter. But hey, I could go back to the naive times when I thought we were going to make it after the 2008 season and hopelessly optimistic for every game, because that seems like the only way to not get ostracized.

Lotus 10-11-2010 07:23 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;746603]People are accusing me of not being happy with a win when [B]I'm just keeping stuff in one of the two perspectives that matter.[/B] But hey, I could go back to the naive times when I thought we were going to make it after the 2008 season and hopelessly optimistic for every game, because that seems like the only way to not get ostracized.[/quote]

With respect, I offer that there is a third perspective available in the middle between extremes.

SirClintonPortis 10-11-2010 07:45 PM

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[quote=Lotus;746623]With respect, I offer that there is a third perspective available in the middle between extremes.[/quote]

Nope, only two. How close they are to a Super Bowl now and how close they are to a Super Bowl in the near future.

CRedskinsRule 10-11-2010 07:52 PM

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[quote=AlexTrebeck] The Daily Double, the category is "Double Trouble"[/quote]

I'll wager 2000 Alex

[quote=AlexTrebeck;746629][I]The answer is:[/I]... How close they are to a Super Bowl now and how close they are to a Super Bowl in the near future.[/quote]

What is: "What questions keep a football fan miserable in life?"

SirClintonPortis 10-11-2010 07:54 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;746631]I'll wager 2000 Alex



What is: "What questions keep a football fan miserable in life?"[/quote]

I believe we're going to pull off a Denver and be almost guaranteed to make it there in three years. WE WILL WIN ONE BEFORE THOSE CAPS WIN A CUP.

MTK 10-11-2010 08:06 PM

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[quote=Lotus;746623]With respect, I offer that there is a third perspective available in the middle between extremes.[/quote]

Agreed. There's a rational side in there between the two extremes.

SirClintonPortis 10-11-2010 08:10 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;746640]Agreed. There's a rational side in there between the two extremes.[/quote]

Yes, the "Jason Campbell" perspective in which we hype up everything and brush aside flaws after win and go all emo after a loss. When the team goes 8-8, you'll see the hype is all for naught.

MTK 10-11-2010 08:16 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;746643]Yes, the "Jason Campbell" perspective in which we hype up everything and brush aside flaws after win and go all emo after a loss. When the team goes 8-8, you'll see the hype is all for naught.[/quote]

I wouldn't have a big problem with 8-8. A 4 game improvement? I'll take that.

Where is all this hype you keep talking about?? Seems like you're talking to yourself on that.

JC isn't here man, move on.

SirClintonPortis 10-11-2010 08:31 PM

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Me keeping things in perspective does not mean I did not get a thrill from beating the Packers when Gano drilled it through the uprights. That doesn't mean that I'm going to turn a blind eye to all the flaws on the team Apparently, you all can't seem to get that.

MTK 10-11-2010 08:33 PM

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You're obviously not paying attention if you think everyone but yourself is ignoring our flaws.

SirClintonPortis 10-11-2010 08:35 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;746656]You're obviously not paying attention if you think everyone but yourself is ignoring our flaws.[/quote]

"Just be happy with the win" heavily implies the that emotional state is all that matters.

MTK 10-11-2010 08:36 PM

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Try reading some more threads.

diehard 10-11-2010 09:21 PM

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I wish we played NYG this week.

SmootSmack 10-11-2010 09:45 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;746654]Me keeping things in perspective does not mean I did not get a thrill from beating the Packers when Gano drilled it through the uprights. That doesn't mean that I'm going to turn a blind eye to all the flaws on the team Apparently, you all can't seem to get that.[/quote]

You need to be de-knighted.

Kindoy 10-11-2010 09:57 PM

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hated that graphic. with a passion.

Kindoy 10-11-2010 09:59 PM

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why can't we be frieeeeeeeeeeeends, why cant we be frieeends

LavaRnChad 10-11-2010 10:06 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;746496]And recent Super Bowl teams usually dominate in at least one facet of the game, those facets being offense or defense, for the whole year. We're barely keeping afloat everywhere.

[/quote]

This right here is the reason I can't get to hyped over our 3-2 start. Thats why I need to see better football execution before I can even consider us a POSSIBLE playoff team.

Kindoy 10-11-2010 10:17 PM

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[quote=LavaRnChad;746702]This right here is the reason I can't get to hyped over our 3-2 start. Thats why I need to see better football execution before I can even consider us a POSSIBLE playoff team.[/quote]

everyone is a 'possible' playoff team.

LavaRnChad 10-11-2010 10:23 PM

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[quote=Hog1;746502]You mean like Dallas??
How does "SirTonyRomo" sound to you?[/quote]

I hate them as much as anybody here, but for Romo to come into the NFL as a very low round draft pick and become one of the top 7-10 QBs, arguably the best in the NFCE, I'll take him.

Hog1 10-11-2010 10:29 PM

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[quote=LavaRnChad;746709]I hate them as much as anybody here, but for [B]Romo[/B] to come into the NFL as a very low round draft pick and become [B]one of the top 7-10 QBs, arguably the best in the NF[/B]CE, I'll take him.[/quote]
AGREED, a phenom in his own right and a...steal!!
If he was getting better protection, they would be dangerous

Monkeydad 10-12-2010 10:41 AM

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What the hell? Look at this disrespect I spotted on ESPN's fantasy player pages this morning:

[IMG]http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5188/espn.png[/IMG]

SmootSmack 10-12-2010 11:23 AM

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[quote=Buster;746892]What the hell? Look at this disrespect I spotted on ESPN's fantasy player pages this morning:

[IMG]http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5188/espn.png[/IMG][/quote]

Heads are rolling (to be clear though this is Rotowire.com)

Monkeydad 10-12-2010 11:27 AM

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Yep, but it's on ESPN's page, so in the end, it's their responsibility.


Make heads roll, SS. Get rid of Cowturd first.

SmootSmack 10-12-2010 11:50 AM

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[quote=Buster;746916]Yep, but it's on ESPN's page, so in the end, it's their responsibility.


Make heads roll, SS. Get rid of Cowturd first.[/quote]

It is (was) on Yahoo! Sports, among others, as well. Rotowire provides the content to multiple sites. These things slip by sometimes

I like Cowherd. Didn't until I met him, but now he's probably my favorite personality here (or one of them at least)

Monkeydad 10-12-2010 11:54 AM

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He could be a cool guy to hang out with and get some wings...but on the air, I can't stand him. His voice, his views, his ego/personality and most of all...anything he says. Even if there's a promo/commercial with his voice on, I change the station until it is over. He's like ESPN's radio version of Stuart Scott. :D

SmootSmack 10-12-2010 11:57 AM

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[quote=Buster;746929]He could be a cool guy to hang out with and get some wings...but on the air, I can't stand him. His voice, his views, his ego/personality and most of all...anything he says. Even if there's a promo/commercial with his voice on, I change the station until it is over. He's like ESPN's radio version of Stuart Scott. :D[/quote]

He can sound a bit grating sure...but he did pick the Skins over the Packers and has called Shanahan an early favorite of his for coach of the year. The wings here aren't so great...the sushi on the other hand...

MTK 10-12-2010 12:06 PM

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Cowturd has grown on me over the years. He's entertaining, and that's his job. But man, the guy wasn't made for TV that's for sure.

over the mountain 10-12-2010 12:07 PM

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Best: That anthony armstrong catch. reminded me of the a johnson catch in that when armstrong went up and got 2 hands on the ball, the defender actually had his arm/hand in between armstrong's hands holding ball and armstrong's chest making hard for armstrong to just bring the ball in, somehow armstrong managed to maintain control of the ball as he fell. just a super game changing play in a game were we didnt have many on offense.

Also hunter smith gets a big 2 thumbs up. those punts at the 10 really put GB back and imo made GB have to change the way they called plays when backed up. winning the field position battle, not punting it for a touch back, are big big plays in close hard fought games like these.

Good: while i thought the refs just refused to call any holding in this game, i liked how the refs let the players play aggressive. i dont mind refs calling a close game or letting them play, but they must be consistent for both teams and through out the game. yeah that was PI when the guy bumped cooley early but that was the way they were letting them play for both teams. i think the non PI call on jarmon at the very end was also a should have been penalty in alot of other games but in this one it was a consistent non-call.

Worst: lichensteiger, torrain to a degree on pass pro and mcnabb who had his first really ugly inaccurate game which we expected but he also stuck it out and made plays at the end to win the game, which we expected as well.
gano, im alil worried, he seems mentally fragile and inconsistent up to now but Ill take him over what we had in the past.

Ruhskins 10-12-2010 12:12 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;746927]It is (was) on Yahoo! Sports, among others, as well. Rotowire provides the content to multiple sites. These things slip by sometimes

I like Cowherd. Didn't until I met him, but now he's probably my favorite personality here (or one of them at least)[/quote]

Looks like it was taken down.

Monkeydad 10-12-2010 12:28 PM

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Success! :D

SirClintonPortis 10-12-2010 12:38 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;746688]You need to be de-knighted.[/quote]

Good knights do not flatter themselves with accolades they do not deserve.

MTK 10-12-2010 12:41 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;746965]Good knights do not flatter themselves with accolades they do not deserve.[/quote]

You're the new offiss around here, congrats

Granted a more calmer version, but still

BigHairedAristocrat 10-12-2010 12:47 PM

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I thought our O-line play was down-right ugly, even before williams and brown got hurt. Rabach was getting abused badly. In my opinion, Dockery should start at left guard and Lichtenstein or whatever his name is should start at center.

SmootSmack 10-12-2010 01:54 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;746971]You're the new offiss around here, congrats

Granted a more calmer version, but still[/quote]

He totally is. Who would have thought it possible

Hog1 10-12-2010 02:06 PM

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Did Offiss have any......offspring?
Perhaps a DNA test is in order??
QUICK....tell him "Patrick Ramsey blows dead dogs" and NOTE his reaction.


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