Re: Judge grants motion, lifts lockout; owners' appeal coming
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;795500] None of these guys (the ones pushing this fight) deserve respect because they all are self-obsessed ego-maniacs, regardless of the face they put on in public.[/quote]

I think we are in 100% total agreement here. ;)

Re: Judge grants motion, lifts lockout; owners' appeal coming
 

[quote=Ruhskins;795492]Interesting twitter post here:

"MarkMaske
James Quinn, attorney for players, said he thinks free agency should begin within 24 hours or he "would have concerns" about collusion."[/quote]

Well sh*t gas up Redskins One...this is the part of the season where we shine

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[quote=NC_Skins;795491]I'm still dumbfounded by some people. The ONE time a American work force an incredible leverage over a greedy corporation, and many of you want to favor the corporation? ...lol You all should be applauding their ability to tell this corporation to go **** themselves. Corporations have been screwing the American people for a long time now, it's about time somebody had fighting power against them.[/quote]

I find it a stretch to infer professional athletes as an American Workforce fighting a greedy corporation/system. We are not talking about teachers in Wisconsin or auto workers in Detroit. We are talking about elite, high paid athletes (i think the league minimum is 300k+) who want to keep a higher share of revenue than the owners want them to have. I don't have a dog in this fight but I think it far fetched for aither party to play the victim.

Re: Judge grants motion, lifts lockout; owners' appeal coming
 

[quote=Son Of Man;795505]I find it a stretch to infer professional athletes as an American Workforce fighting a greedy corporation/system. We are not talking about teachers in Wisconsin or auto workers in Detroit. We are talking about elite, high paid athletes (i think the league minimum is 300k+) who want to keep a higher share of revenue than the owners want them to have. I don't have a dog in this fight but I think it far fetched for aither party to play the victim.[/quote]

I agree with this, but there are other people that make regular salaries that are getting screwed by this lockout.

Also, I still think that teams will have long term effects b/c they were not able to deal in free agency, have offseason programs to install offenses/defenses, and make draft decisions w/o free agency.

Re: Judge grants motion, lifts lockout; owners' appeal coming
 

[QUOTE]@AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Players have asked Judge Nelson judge to force NFL owners to start the league year. Judge ordered owners to respond by 5 pm. tomorrow.
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One question, and it is probably naive. IF the judge forces the league to start a "league year", and forces them to put rules in place to operate, then HOW can the owners then be sued for anti-trust violations. I simply don't understand the players can have it both ways: you can't treat us like a collective group, however, you must behave like a collective group, and once you do we will sue you because you are acting like an illegal collective group.

I simply don't get it.

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I wish I knew. Not particularly familiar with labor law to begin with and anti-trust is a whole other specialty. THere are probably so many arcane legal rules at play here that it takes five lawyers sitting in a rooom just name half - not agree on them mind you, just name them.

I think ultimately, it will all be settled under the guise of a "legal fiction" which is the equivalent of "poetic license".

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good on the Giants! You would think this kind of info would make it very awkward for other teams tomorrow if players decide to show up before the Judge makes her decision.

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/26/giants-let-players-work-out-at-facility/"]Giants let players work out at facility[/URL]

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According to JLC the NFLPA is telling Agents that Free Agency is open and they should start contacting teams now. Another twist.

Re: Judge grants motion, lifts lockout; owners' appeal coming
 

[quote=GreekSkin;795592]According to JLC the NFLPA is telling Agents that Free Agency is open and they should start contacting teams now. Another twist.[/quote]

Teams aren't responding to agents' calls. I think that could change tomorrow night

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NFLPA instructs free agents to start shopping their services now

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/16637/NFLPA-instructs-free-agents-to-start-shopping-their-services-now/Default.aspx]NFLPA instructs free agents to start shopping their services now[/url]

Re: Judge grants motion, lifts lockout; owners' appeal coming
 

[quote=alvin walton;795595]nflpa instructs free agents to start shopping their services now

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/blogdescription/tabid/61/entryid/16637/nflpa-instructs-free-agents-to-start-shopping-their-services-now/default.aspx]nflpa instructs free agents to start shopping their services now[/url][/quote]


where is vinny when you need him??

Re: Judge grants motion, lifts lockout; owners' appeal coming
 

Congratulations owners. Not only did you fumble in the court of public opinion while in the red zone but the players just took that fumble all the way to the house.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;795599]where is vinny when you need him??[/QUOTE]

Hopefully in Elba. Man that joke would have been funnier if you asked me where Snyder was but it still works.

If I'm a GM right now I'd tell my owner to let free agency happen. I'm sure a lot of teams would not want to go into the draft without free agency. The owners can have their appeal after the draft.

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[quote=Ruhskins;795643]If I'm a GM right now I'd tell my owner to let free agency happen. I'm sure a lot of teams would not want to go into the draft without free agency. The owners can have their appeal after the draft.

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If I'm a GM right now I'm making gentlemen's agreements on the down-low or at least letting the free agents that I like know that I am very ($$$) interested.

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[quote=Lotus;795645]If I'm a GM right now I'm making gentlemen's agreements on the down-low or at least letting the free agents that I like know that I am very ($$$) interested.[/quote]

Maybe it's not as much a risk now but apparently the league was going to go HARD after teams that did under the table deals during the lockout, and maybe with the Lockout lifted it gives them a little more leeway. However it's still a risk.

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I had not thought much about this, but the undrafted college players could also file a suit against the NFL owners as well, if the lockout continues to long after the draft. . This whole anti-trust route some the players are taking in court could gain some traction and has to be scaring the owners a bit. It kind of smells rotten to me that some college players will drafted on Thursday and the others will be told to pound sand. PLus throw in all of the veteran unrestricted Free agent NFL players and that is a sh*tload of players. The owners need to be careful not expose themselves in attempt to grab more money. Reward to risk is starting to run high.

Re: Judge grants motion, lifts lockout; owners' appeal coming
 

One more question for any and everyone: Is it possible that the NFL goes to Congress and somehow circumvents the judicial branch?

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Yep, cant sign UDFA's either......
There is going to be one hellacious flurry of activity once this crap gets settled.

Well it seem that there is still uncertainty in regards to free agency. I still can't believe that teams are passing up the opportunity to temporarily have free agency.

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[quote=Ruhskins;796098]Well it seem that there is still uncertainty in regards to free agency. I still can't believe that teams are passing up the opportunity to temporarily have free agency.

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Are they still under 2010 rules or can they pick up any free agent? Would tenders and franchise tags still apply? These things have to be sorted out before they can actually start the league year...