Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

I give them a B+/A-. They've treated free agency just like it should be for a 3 win team. Hatcher, Roberts, Jackson and Porter are all very solid moves. All of those guys make the team better. The linemen from Cleveland and the LB from Houston are kind of wait and see, didn't really like the Clark signing. The rest of them were for depth and teams. What I like is they're not trying to build a team with free agents, but make solid improvements. The Jackson deal was icing on the cake. So far so good.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

[quote=over the mountain;1069648]F - they failed to address FS or RT which were the two biggest needs and positions I do not think you can plug-in a 2nd or 3rd round rookie to start right away.

Of course I love the idea of what D jax can bring to the field but i did not think we needed him .. at all. its like buying a spoiler for our banged up 1998 honda civic.

biggest FA addition imo is a healthy RG3. if he is healthy, its lights out on our comp.[/quote]

Do you think overpaying for Byrd was the way to go? I sure don't. I think we can find a RT with that 2nd round pick. We're probably going to struggle at safety again but we can't address everything.

Putting Jackson on the field opens up the entire offense. It gives Morris more room to operate. It gives Reed the middle of the field, Jackson does things that will not show up in the stat sheet. Of course keeping him happy is another story.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

[quote=over the mountain;1069648]F - they failed to address FS or RT which were the two biggest needs and positions I do not think you can plug-in a 2nd or 3rd round rookie to start right away.

Of course I love the idea of what D jax can bring to the field but i did not think we needed him .. at all. its like buying a spoiler for our banged up 1998 honda civic.

biggest FA addition imo is a healthy RG3. if he is healthy, its lights out on our comp.[/quote]

Sorry, I can't really agree with you on this. First of all, you can't look at free agency as being the primary way of building your team. The 'skins have been doing that for far too long. Free agency should be used as supplementing your roster and adding the occasional star if he should become available and the price is right. The draft is where this team needs to focus on building their team, and that's where they'll look to fill holes on the offensive line and the defensive secondary. I don't personally see anything wrong with that.

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Outside of Garcon who did we really have at WR??

Jackson filled a huge need and gives us a legit 1-2 combo. Add in a 3rd in Roberts and this WR group went from blah to having the potential to be one of the better groups in the league.

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[quote=Mattyk;1069699]Outside of Garcon who did we really have at WR??

Jackson filled a huge need and gives us a legit 1-2 combo. Add in a 3rd in Roberts and this WR group went from blah to having the potential to be one of the better groups in the league.[/quote]

exactly!

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[quote=Mattyk;1069699]Outside of Garcon who did we really have at WR??

Jackson filled a huge need and gives us a legit 1-2 combo. Add in a 3rd in Roberts and this WR group went from blah to having the potential to be one of the better groups in the league.[/quote]

Right on. In fact, we were worse than "blah." There's a reason why Garcon had more targets than anyone else in the league: there was no one else to throw the ball to.

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[quote=Mattyk;1069699]Outside of Garcon who did we really have at WR??

Jackson filled a huge need and gives us a legit 1-2 combo. Add in a 3rd in Roberts and this WR group went from blah to having the potential to be one of the better groups in the league.[/quote]
How much more effective will it make our TE group? Slipping a back out of the backfield?
We became a team who cannot have all the weapons covered. If we can get an Oline guy or two, we may have something.......

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1068293]Lots of head scratchers in that list. For example -Mario Manningham is rated as an A, while Riley Cooper is a C, and DJax is graded at a D?

That's just ridiculous.[/quote]

I can only assume this guy is a complete idiot.

Re: Offseason grade
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1068306]I know Denver and New England are respected franchises, but to me their FA signings are basically the types of signings that our team used to make under Vinny. Overpaying for stars past their primes.[/quote]

I disagree as those are Super Bowl contenders. I think there's a time and place to "overpay" for free agents. That time is now for both those teams as their QB's are in the twilight of their careers.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

[quote=Mattyk;1069699]Outside of Garcon who did we really have at WR??

Jackson filled a huge need and gives us a legit 1-2 combo. Add in a 3rd in Roberts and this WR group went from blah to having the potential to be one of the better groups in the league.[/quote]


Didn't we talk about you making sense? Don't you remember how dangerous that is?

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The only thing I will say is that if we could have gotten T.J. Ward for 4.5 million dollars for 5 years then great but I am not going to knock what we have accomplished this off-season.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1069737]The only thing I will say is that if we could have gotten T.J. Ward for 4.5 million dollars for 5 years then great but I am not going to knock what we have accomplished this off-season.[/quote]

he wanted to go to cleveland (coach he liked), he wouldn't have come here for that... at least from what i've read.

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[quote=That Guy;1069751]he wanted to go to cleveland (coach he liked), he wouldn't have come here for that... at least from what i've read.[/quote]


I figured that, but I was just saying I am not gonna piss all over the FO like some have.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

[quote=That Guy;1069751]he wanted to go to cleveland (coach he liked), he wouldn't have come here for that... at least from what i've read.[/quote]

Cleveland or Denver?

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1069761]Cleveland or Denver?[/quote]

Yeah, pretty sure That Guy meant Denver.

Still annoys and confuses me that we overpayed for Lavuao, but didn't use that money on Verner, Ward, or someone else actually worth a price tag in that neighborhood. Not sure what Allen/Gruden was thinking there. I mean, it seems like we could've drafted Cyril Richardson in the 3rd round and got pretty much the same production for quite a bit less money. I sure as heck hope Lavuao proves to be worth that cap space; perhaps with Trent and Kory surrounding him, he'll do better than he did in Cleveland.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

yeah, my bad - sorry.

Re: Offseason grade
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1069730]I disagree as those are Super Bowl contenders. I think there's a time and place to "overpay" for free agents. That time is now for both those teams as their QB's are in the twilight of their careers.[/quote]

You're right, but those are still the type of signings Vinny used to do (on a bad Redskins team).

I find it interesting that Denver would spend so much money on defense, when they were beating soundly by Seattle's defensive line.

Re: Offseason grade
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1069808]You're right, but those are still the type of signings Vinny used to do (on a bad Redskins team).

I find it interesting that Denver would spend so much money on defense, when they were beating soundly by Seattle's defensive line.[/quote]

But they managed to lure the centerpiece from the Redskins physically opposing line from 2013 - Will Montgomery.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

[quote=That Guy;1069794]yeah, my bad - sorry.[/quote]

I thought so.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

We signed some guy.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/43567/Redskins-Sign-Fullback-Stephen-Campbell/Default.aspx]Redskins Sign Fullback Stephen Campbell[/url]

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

Stephen Campbell? [I]The[/I] Stephen Campbell? Woohoo! Championship, baby!

I wonder why they went with a fullback to fill Tanard's spot. Campbell played TE in college, as well as special teams, so he's versatile at least.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

We sign a FB? I wonder if the team will even keep a FB on the 53-man roster.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

I can't see Young being in jeopardy.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

[quote=Mattyk;1075664]I can't see Young being in jeopardy.[/quote]

Neither can I. Young is rock solid.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

[quote=skinsguy;1075667]Neither can I. Young is rock solid.[/quote]

Yeah, if the fact that Morris is much more effective when Young is run-blocking for him isn't enough, he's also easily one of the best 53 on the roster, probably closer to best 15.

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

Says he played TE in college - seems a bit small for that at the pro level (6' 1", 245lbs.), but you never know. Maybe brought in as a potential 4th TE and back-up FB.

... or he's just a camp body.

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Special teams maybe?
After last season I wouldnt mind trying out a few dozen new guys in that area.

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Camp body to take away some of Young's reps ... Nothing to see here

Re: Redskins free agent signings thread part II
 

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Long snapper Kyle Nelson released to make room.