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[quote=skinsguy;1090374]I'm done with Tyler Polumbus. Leave Compton in there and see what he can do. Can't be any worse.[/quote]

I support this 100%.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1090363]There shouldn't be any debate at who is the starting RB; it's Morris and it should be. But he desperately needs to work on ball security. He's not fumbling every single game but I can't say I don't hold my breath when he tries to fight for extra yards.[/quote]

Wouldn't mind seeing Redd get some carries.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1090379]Wouldn't mind seeing Redd get some carries.[/quote]

This.

I know I keep saying this, but I dont think Alfmo is the lead back next year. Is he problem? Not at all, but I think Gruden wants a more dynamic RB to lead and Alfmo to be the change of pace, masher RB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1090379]Wouldn't mind seeing Redd get some carries.[/quote]

Me too.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1090379]Wouldn't mind seeing Redd get some carries.[/quote]

I came back just to say this. He ran some in one of the first two games we played. Why haven't we seen him more?

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+ We won a home game we should've won at home

- The trade value for Cousins might be a BLT from Wawa

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1090387]+ We won a home game we should've won at home

- The trade value for Cousins might be a BLT from Wawa[/quote]

I'm positive the BLT is better.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1090293]I don't have an issue with Gruden staying upbeat and positive with a player through the week. Especially with Kirk's realistic attitude about his performance. Coaches know their players better than we do. Kirk is hard on himself and might need coaches to show confidence in him.

A great example is we are all calling for Moses but obviously the coaches believe Compton is better. That's why we saw him come in for Polumbus.

Colt was a huge unknown to us and a pleasant surprise. I'm guessing there was a reason he started the season as the 3rd string qb rather than the 2nd.

All that being said, I loved his decision making today and the smart way he rushed on a broken play.[/quote]

What I meant is that coaches have to plan for all occasions, if he's not wanting to think about KC having picks, then that's not good. You can still be upbeat, and try to make the situation the best for him, but the OC and HC ought to be having a plan B discussion, and it doesn't sound like that happened.

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I think Gruden realized that this was going to be a close game. If KC turned it over one more time there in the 2nd half we probably lose the game. He did what he had to do and good for him.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1090270]Big positive was Gruden making moves with players who obviously weren't getting it done.

negative is that Gruden in his press conference said they didn't plan or talk about the possibility of having to pull Kirk during the week. He said he spent the time trying to make it work for Kirk. Ok, I get that the first week. The second week, you have to be thinking about options. One of the few coaching comments I haven't liked from him.

Positive, even after the defense gave up the go ahead touchdown the team didn't give up. Also the defense played well for many parts of the game, I think they got several 3 and outs, but not positive.

Positive, Amerson/Breeland could be a good tandem for the Skins for a while. Maybe not the shutdown ala Revis, but CB's you can build the defensive backfield around.[/quote]

I can tell you he's lying. Colt was told Saturday to be ready because he was coming in if Kirk struggled again and the game was close

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[quote=skinsfan69;1090392]I think Gruden realized that this was going to be a close game. If KC turned it over one more time there in the 2nd half we probably lose the game. He did what he had to do and good for him.[/quote]

That is exactly what I took away.

I think Gruden thought based off of the Jags game that we would come out and trounce the Titans, and since Cousins' turnover tendencies were mostly in the 4th quarter playing catch up, it was likely a non-issue. That is why he thought it best to stick with him through the week in practice, but once he started coughing it up in the first half and we were going into the locker room at halftime behind the Titans, there was no choice but to try his other option.

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In regards to Colt's performance.


[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/10/20/good-start-and-finish-for-redskins-mccoy-but-issues-in-between/]Good start and finish for Redskins’ McCoy but issues in between | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]



[quote=CRedskinsRule;1090270]negative is that Gruden in his press conference said they didn't plan or talk about the possibility of having to pull Kirk during the week. He said he spent the time trying to make it work for Kirk. Ok, I get that the first week. The second week, you have to be thinking about options. One of the few coaching comments I haven't liked from him.[/quote]


People still believe coaches in press conferences? They are probably lying 50% of the time.

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So is Colt automatically starting against the Cowboys are will this be one of those wait and see how both he and Kirk practice? If Kirk was struggling in practice last week, I'm sure he'd struggle in practice this week.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1090399]I can tell you he's lying. Colt was told Saturday to be ready because he was coming in if Kirk struggled again and the game was close[/quote]

That makes me like Gruden even more, not necessarily the "lie" but that he's looking at every option and gave McCoy the chance.

Maybe McCoy should start until RG is 100% healthy and confident. What do you think?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1090401]In regards to Colt's performance.




People still believe coaches in press conferences? They are probably lying 50% of the time.[/quote]

Well in fairness, the plays called were all short and quick passes, not much downfield action for McCoy to complete longer passes. You would think Gruden will open up the playbook more for him after a week of practicing with the starters.

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[quote=skinsguy;1090407][B]So is Colt automatically starting against the Cowboys[/B] are will this be one of those wait and see how both he and Kirk practice? If Kirk was struggling in practice last week, I'm sure he'd struggle in practice this week.[/quote]

I sure hope not. Colt delivered the win, so all his short-comings are over-looked by the fans. I'm not sold on the idea that he's really a better option than Cousins. If Gruden starts Colt, fine. But he shouldn't be handed the job automatically just based off the Tennessee game.


Some quotes from [URL="http://realredskins.com/2014/10/20/good-start-and-finish-for-redskins-mccoy-but-issues-in-between/"]Tandler's latest article[/URL]:

[quote]If you give McCoy five yards on that completion instead of 70, he has only 63 yards passing and his yards per attempt from an impressive 10.7 to a substandard 5.3. Add in the eight yards he lost to sacks and it comes to a net yards per attempt of 3.9[/quote]

[quote]In between the TD pass to Garçon and the final drive, a span of about 24 minutes, McCoy completed five of six passes for a net of 10 yards and was sacked twice for a loss of eight.
[/quote]

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I agree with how body language is very telling. Definitely evident in Kirk.


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/10/20/watch-the-redskins-kirk-cousins-hang-his-head-repeatedly/?dd]Watch the Redskins’ Kirk Cousins hang his head, repeatedly - The Washington Post[/url]

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I agree with Tandler's assessment. Other than his initial pass, which was only a five yard completion with Garcon doing all the rest, and the final drive, Colt was decidedly unimpressive.

However ... he did two things that Kirk has failed to do this year: Protect the ball, come up big in the 4th quarter.

Colt is the better starter now but, hopefully, RGIII comes in and we can see the difference.

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I don't understand Tandler's argument. Because this is what the west coast offense and specifically Jay's west coast offense is all about. You don't need a QB with a cannon for an arm. You want one who can put the ball in the right spot and let the WRs do the rest

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[quote=SmootSmack;1090417]I don't understand Tandler's argument. Because this is what the west coast offense and specifically Jay's west coast offense is all about. You don't need a QB with a cannon for an arm. You want one who can put the ball in the right spot and let the WRs do the rest[/quote]

I'll let Tandler take this one:

[quote]A team can occasionally win a game with a passing performance like that but it’s unusual. A team has averaged 3.9 net yards per pass attempt in 285 games since the start of the 2010 season. Those teams are 31-254, a .109 winning percentage.[/quote]

Edit: And I don't know where to finds the stats, but I think it's safe to say Cousins takes quite a few more shots down field.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1090387]+ We won a home game we should've won at home

- The trade value for Cousins might be a BLT from Wawa[/quote]

I miss Wawa.

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[quote=SirLK26;1090412][B]I sure hope not. Colt delivered the win, so all his short-comings are over-looked by the fans.[/B] I'm not sold on the idea that he's really a better option than Cousins. If Gruden starts Colt, fine. But he shouldn't be handed the job automatically just based off the Tennessee game.


Some quotes from [URL="http://realredskins.com/2014/10/20/good-start-and-finish-for-redskins-mccoy-but-issues-in-between/"]Tandler's latest article[/URL]:[/quote]

So true. I would prefer that he goes back to KC simply because he hits big plays every game. However, he would be on a short leash.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1090416]I agree with Tandler's assessment. [B]Other than his initial pass, which was only a five yard completion with Garcon doing all the rest[/B], and the final drive, Colt was decidedly unimpressive.

However ... he did two things that Kirk has failed to do this year: Protect the ball, come up big in the 4th quarter.

Colt is the better starter now but, hopefully, RGIII comes in and we can see the difference.[/quote]

I'm not knocking Garcon, who made a great play, but Michael Griffin was pathetic on that play. Like Bacarri Rambo pathetic.

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Make no mistake, when healthy RG3 is far and away the best QB on this team and when he's ready he needs to be under center.

However, Colt did everything that was asked of him. Kirk has failed week after week. Long overdue for him to take a seat on the bench. I don't see how Colt was unimpressive. Did he do nothing on that game winning drive?

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Colt was efficient and cool under fire. He definitely deserves some props and the starting nod next week if RG3 isn't back. I've had enough of Kirk's turnovers.

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Colt did exactly what he needed to do (Kept the ball safe from the other team, and put the team in position to score enough to win).

Is he our long term answer, almost certainly not, but until RG3 gets better I think he is our best answer

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Colt stepped in under Very tough circumstances with little or no practice with the first squad. As has been stated, he did what was necessary and most importantly.....HE WON!!!
Cousins is not done in this league and maybe not with this team. BUT, he needs to be done...for now
Ala Alex Smith-Thank you BMitch

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[quote=SirLK26;1090418]I'll let Tandler take this one:



Edit: And I don't know where to finds the stats, but I think it's safe to say Cousins takes quite a few more shots down field.[/quote]



It is only one play but I don't think it is fair to take it away to lower his stats to 3.9 ypa. That is going to be part of the game for the Skins. One cannot simply choose to ignore stats and I doubt he took yac away from the other QBs in his comparison.

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Colt gave us a chance. We haven't even had that with KC in the game for a few weeks now. I hate it that KC didn't make the most of his opportunity but he needs to go back to the bench to get his head straight. He looked lost out there, repeatedly. I could understand benching him and starting him next week if it was a one time deal where he looked bad, but KC has looked bad every week since J-ville. Colt deserves the opportunity to start until RG3 gets back.

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Look, I think it's all about the TOs when it comes to KC versus Colt. No matter what else KC is bringing, if he keeps giving it to the other team it does not matter. On Colt's stats: he was playing for the Browns, so it's probably pretty hard to get much in the way of stats there. But we'll see. At this point, we're waiting for RGIII, obviously.

Positives: Breeland, Compton, Garcon and Desean, Reed, Helu (playing well all year, other than that ST f-up), we won a game we should have (after dropping 2 we could have).

Negatives: No sacks (though I thought they got a bit of pressure and several sacks we're erased by questionable penalties), Morris/run game, Orakpo done, Biggers, safeties (as usual), offsides on a punt (WTF!?!?!), Red zone woes.

Still beats losing any day.

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Colt to start v. Dallas per ESPN. Not a surprise. I wouldn't imagine Gruden would want to do anything to rush back RGIII given what happened to his predecessor.

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1090428]Colt did exactly what he needed to do (Kept the ball safe from the other team, and put the team in position to score enough to win).

Is he our long term answer, almost certainly not, but until RG3 gets better I think he is our best answer[/quote]

This.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1090358]Do you think Will Montgomery is a great OL?[/quote]

No, I do not...?

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Gruden couldn't let KC come in and take the chance he'd throw another int.

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[quote=JWsleep;1090444]Look, I think it's all about the TOs when it comes to KC versus Colt. No matter what else KC is bringing, if he keeps giving it to the other team it does not matter. On Colt's stats: he was playing for the Browns, so it's probably pretty hard to get much in the way of stats there. But we'll see. At this point, we're waiting for RGIII, obviously.

Positives: Breeland, Compton, Garcon and Desean, Reed, Helu (playing well all year, other than that ST f-up), we won a game we should have (after dropping 2 we could have).

Negatives: No sacks (though I thought they got a bit of pressure and several sacks we're erased by questionable penalties), Morris/run game, Orakpo done, Biggers, safeties (as usual), offsides on a punt (WTF!?!?!), [B]Red zone woes.[/B]
Still beats losing any day.[/quote]

Red zone was a big issue. I like to see us go to Reed more...we did once on a kinda poor throw. Also would like to see Roberts more in motion around the end zone, get him moving for sprint out throws or boots going his way.

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[quote=Lotus;1090423]I'm not knocking Garcon, who made a great play, but Michael Griffin was pathetic on that play. Like Bacarri Rambo pathetic.[/quote]

To be fair, he and a lot of people have underestimated Garcons speed, which he showed he still has.

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I'm surprised they already named Colt as the starter (if RG3 isn't ready). I thought they'd wait.

If I were Gruden, I would send so many mixed signals about who will start that Dallas wouldn't know how to game plan. I'd be saying:

"RG3 is 'All-In for Dallas Week,' but Cousins might get another chance if he's not ready, we'll see how he and Colt do in practice."

Am I wrong? Why would you show your hand this early?

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Negative - Breeland played well and is improving, the NFL will swiftly suspend him

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[quote=WillH;1090463]I'm surprised they already named Colt as the starter (if RG3 isn't ready). I thought they'd wait.

If I were Gruden, I would send so many mixed signals about who will start that Dallas wouldn't know how to game plan. I'd be saying:

"RG3 is 'All-In for Dallas Week,' but Cousins might get another chance if he's not ready, we'll see how he and Colt do in practice."

Am I wrong? Why would you show your hand this early?[/quote]

It would only create unnecessary drama, especially if there's no real chance of him returning.

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[quote=sevier2;1090453]No, I do not...?[/quote]

Because he's really the only difference across the offensive line from 2012, so no I don't think the offensive line is to blame for Morrises problems this year. That's just a convenient excuse, in my opinion