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Still feel like that was a dream. Has been a really long time since I have seen our defense shutdown a good offense like that. Maybe the most dominant I have ever seen from a Skins team. And for our offense and defense to be clicking in the same game was just heavenly. I have seen us look good before only to inexplicably shit the bed in following weeks but that was such an ass kicking that I have some kool aid free swagger today as a Skins fan. HTTR!

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What is getting lost in that performance by the D was the performance of our offense. My goodness they were well balanced. Kirk was unbelievable. The o line was kicking butt. CT is a damn star. If we beat the Chiefs next week I am going to get straight stupid about the very near future of this team.

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Go ahead, live in the past, bask in it:

[YT]xHlA-tbRxkU[/YT]

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Not to move past this too quickly, but the Chiefs will also be a big test (win that game, and even Redskins haters will have to concede we're legit). Interestingly, the Chiefs have a bend-don't-break defense -- they give up the 5th most amount of yards per game, but are #10 in points per game: [url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&season=2017&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go]ational Football League Stats - by Team Category | NFL.com[/url]

This is a D that can be beat if we make the most of our opportunities. Having had a bunch of bend-don't-break defenses of our own over the years, I never think that is terribly sustainable. But winning in Arrowhead has proved really, really hard, and keeping up this kind of momentum may be pretty hard as well.

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[quote=Schneed10;1175193]Go ahead, live in the past, bask in it:

[YT]xHlA-tbRxkU[/YT][/quote]

Lol i have watched the highlights quite.a.few times.today haha

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[quote=calia;1175194]Not to move past this too quickly, but the Chiefs will also be a big test (win that game, and even Redskins haters will have to concede we're legit). Interestingly, the Chiefs have a bend-don't-break defense -- they give up the 5th most amount of yards per game, but are #10 in points per game: [url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&season=2017&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go]ational Football League Stats - by Team Category | NFL.com[/url]

This is a D that can be beat if we make the most of our opportunities. Having had a bunch of bend-don't-break defenses of our own over the years, I never think that is terribly sustainable. But winning in Arrowhead has proved really, really hard, and keeping up this kind of momentum may be pretty hard as well.[/quote]

Tough task for sure, and I wouldn't presume to win in Arrowhead. But I sure as hell like our chances a lot more today than I did yesterday morning!

HTTR

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[quote=Schneed10;1175197]Tough task for sure, and I wouldn't presume to win in Arrowhead. But I sure as hell like our chances a lot more today than I did yesterday morning!

HTTR[/quote]

Amen to that.

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Some of these stats from the game are dominant.

10 -- tackles for Z Brown
9 - tackles for Spaight
8 - number of different receivers
7 - total number of raiders 1st downs
6 - total number of carries for bitch mode
5 - Vernon Davis was 5-5 on catches/targets
4 - total tackles for Kerrigan, 1 sack 3 TFL
3 - TD passes thrown by Cousins
2 - skins ints
1 - sack allowed by Skins
0 - number of successful 3rd down conversions by the vaunted Raiders offense

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Beating the Raiders is like stealing a game. We all play the game when the schedule is released, that's a win, that's a loss, that's a win, that's a win, that's a loss...

Every one of us would have had the Raiders as a stone loss. We won one we weren't expected to.

One game at a time, but string together a couple of those this season and that's the kind of thing that makes you start to dream...

If there's anything that will propel this team to new heights, it will be rallying around an identity: hit harder, fight harder, fight longer. Win in the trenches, let everything else take care of itself.

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Not good.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/riggosrag.com/2017/09/25/redskins-reserve-tackle-ty-nsekhe-core-injury-weeks/amp/[/url]

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1175128]This was the best I've felt after a win in a LONG time. Now I'm like, "How do we pay Zach Brown?!"[/quote]
How do we not? The guy wreaks havoc on opposing offenses.

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Nothing more enjoyable in football, than watching your team punch people in the mouth on defense. That was utter domination. Minus the fumbles, could have been a shut out.

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Just saw the game, holy hell what a win! As complete a performance as I'm ever gonna see, that's for damn sure. First off, I need to eat a big heaping plate of crow for talking shit about Greg Manusky. Jury is still out but his stock just took a massive jump.

There were a few negatives, Crowder needs to stop letting these once-a-game lapses happen, he's normally as solid as they come. And Perrine needs to improve his vision, and his ball handling skills. Can't be fumbling the rock. Other than that, A++ for everyone.

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Perrin missed several BIG HOLES that could have taken the distance..you could see the holes on replay he is almost to quick to the line and runs into blockers before they open it up..patience grasshopper..

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Unbelievable game,defense was so dominating,like someone said been a long long time since we've seen the skins defense show up and play like that,if only they played with that same intensity every game.Kept waiting for them to give up the big play but it never happened.
Did not want to see Rob Kelley get hurt but have been wanting to see the rookie get more carries and I've always thought Mack Brown should be thrown more in the mix,Gruden barely used him last year either.I really dont want to see Kelley get his job back,he doesnt look the same to me as he did last yr when he got his first opportunity,I have not been impressed,would rather see Brown get his carries.
Cousins played his best game by far this yr,pass to Doctson was great{and in bounds}and great catch by Josh,great to see him finally contribute.
Overall great win,best win we've had in a long time.

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How did Buffalo let Brown walk out the door? That guy so far is a total stud.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1175243]How did Buffalo let Brown walk out the door? That guy so far is a total stud.[/quote]

[url]https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/6/16/15811038/preston-brown-buffalo-bills-linebacker-good-or-not-sean-mcdermott-4-3[/url]


[I]To me, it’s quite clear what the assortment of specialized stats and film-study grades indicate about Brown — he’s become a boom-or-bust linebacker, someone capable of short bursts of incredible play who severely lacks consistency.[/I]- From the article

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1175243]How did Buffalo let Brown walk out the door? That guy so far is a total stud.[/QUOTE]



Good question, total baller who deserves a nice payday, we better lock him up

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[quote=mredskins;1175244][url]https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/6/16/15811038/preston-brown-buffalo-bills-linebacker-good-or-not-sean-mcdermott-4-3[/url]


[I]To me, it’s quite clear what the assortment of specialized stats and film-study grades indicate about Brown — he’s become a boom-or-bust linebacker, someone capable of short bursts of incredible play who severely lacks consistency.[/I]- From the article[/quote]

Kinda confusing article ... but its a case study focus on Bills LB Preston Brown. Unless you were pointing to it to say they let Zach walk bc they liked Preston more. Im guessing the Bills only want to carry 1 successful LB at a time. Still trying to pull a Major League and suck enough to move the team to Toronto.

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[quote=over the mountain;1175247]Kinda confusing article ... but its a case study focus on Bills LB Preston Brown. Unless you were pointing to it to say they let Zach walk bc they liked Preston more. Im guessing the Bills only want to carry 1 successful LB at a time. Still trying to pull a Major League and suck enough to move the team to Toronto.[/quote]

Basically, sounded like they were high Preston Brown and rich at ILB. Much like us with PG and Djax.

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Brown was a semi-bust his first four years in the league. A 2012 2nd rounder for Tennessee, they let him walk when his rookie contract was up. He went to Buffalo on a one year deal ($1.25M). So, he was a true free agent and Buffalo had no rights to re-sign unless they tagged him. They were tight under the cap and had lots of folks to replace including their No. 1 CB Stephone Gilmore.

So, we just got lucky. The real question is why he lasted so long in free agency after exploding in the Bills defense last year.

[url]https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-news/2016/4/6/11376464/zach-brown-contract-details-buffalo-bills-free-agency[/url]

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[quote=over the mountain;1175202]Some of these stats from the game are dominant.

10 -- tackles for Z Brown
9 - tackles for Spaight
8 - number of different receivers
7 - total number of raiders 1st downs
6 - total number of carries for bitch mode
5 - Vernon Davis was 5-5 on catches/targets
4 - total tackles for Kerrigan, 1 sack 3 TFL
3 - TD passes thrown by Cousins
2 - skins ints
1 - sack allowed by Skins
0 - number of successful 3rd down conversions by the vaunted Raiders offense[/quote]

Total Domination by the Skins ..... Just Win Baby !

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So I'm looking back on Perine's game like I did with Kelley week 1, and he definitely missed some opportunities, but there were some head scratchers in the blocking. Here's a blown play by Brandon Scherff:

Scherff pulls.
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He has two Defensive players that he could target to help create what looks like it could've been a nice running lane for Perine.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/d4e43b7940d9eef9109ebc8120d40e18.jpg[/IMG]

But instead . . .
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/691711bc0f54ceea8fb206fae66e2973.jpg[/IMG]

He knocks Lauvao off his block, freeing a defender.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/e9e2ed54ac9238b80928c616f7561ebf.jpg[/IMG]

Who makes the play for a short gain.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/3a98c65a49320849211913c4a1e51fb5.jpg[/IMG]


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So here is the one where Perine left some yards on the field. Listening to Cooley and Riggins this AM, they were saying that he wasn't patient with his runs. I didn't see many instances where he was missing big holes, but I did see what they were talking about with plunging forward without letting his blocks develop / helping to setup his blocks. Here's an example:

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/cdbd500d87917b5a04474f7f35673f13.jpg[/IMG]

After the handoff he begins pressing straight forward too quickly. If he were to hesitate here he can get the LBs to commit one way or another and see where his line opens a lane.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/b3131ae986d63acd9cdfb8a6e0b8c6ae.jpg[/IMG]

A nice lane opens to the left, but Perine has already pressed right up his lineman's ass and limited his options.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/aec602560febb9b9b00bf41c72b46bae.jpg[/IMG]

So he plunges forward and is stuffed.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/9b2b898b6b8e78596576de78ff4ac299.jpg[/IMG]


I have a feeling that this is common for young RBs and coachable, as opposed to poor field vision which is not. I'm hoping it's the former rather than the latter.


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that was one hell of a beat down. if we play every game like that, we don't lose.

extremely impressive and exciting.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0704687847273140893-4]Quarterback Kirk Cousins was named NFC Offensive Player of the Week after completing 25-of-30 passes for 365 yards and three touchdowns vs. the Raiders. It's the fourth time he's received the honor.[/url]

Cousins named NFC Offensive Player of the Week.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1175235]Nothing more enjoyable in football, than watching your team punch people in the mouth on defense. That was utter domination. Minus the fumbles, could have been a shut out.[/QUOTE]



Should have been 30-0. But im fine with the results. In close games we have to protect the ball better down there for sure!

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Will H -- good stuff man. Im not sure we can put it on Perine for the 2nd post breakdown. If the play is a designed run right without him looking to cut back or him having the option to cut back, I cant blame him for running the play how it is supposed to be run.

If its a zone run type play were perine should be looking to cut back, then that is a horse of a different color.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1175358]Will H -- good stuff man. Im not sure we can put it on Perine for the 2nd post breakdown. If the play is a designed run right without him looking to cut back or him having the option to cut back, I cant blame him for running the play how it is supposed to be run.



If its a zone run type play were perine should be looking to cut back, then that is a horse of a different color.[/QUOTE]



Definitely agree, I have no knowledge of what plays were called and who's responsible to do what. I was basing it off of what Cooley and Riggo were saying, but that may not have been one of the plays they were talking about, but it did look like it.

Having scrutinized all the run plays, Davis was the worst culprit in missing / letting blocks go too quickly. I counted 5 runs in which the defender he was "blocking" was in on the tackle. I think this was the primary reason for the low yards/carry for Perine, but he also didn't break tackles or make people miss. I'm not ready to write him off, but it wasn't a great first start.


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i hope rob and marvin plat.

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[quote=WillH;1175391]Definitely agree, I have no knowledge of what plays were called and who's responsible to do what. I was basing it off of what Cooley and Riggo were saying, but that may not have been one of the plays they were talking about, but it did look like it.

Having scrutinized all the run plays, Davis was the worst culprit in missing / letting blocks go too quickly. I counted 5 runs in which the defender he was "blocking" was in on the tackle. I think this was the primary reason for the low yards/carry for Perine, but he also didn't break tackles or make people miss. I'm not ready to write him off, but it wasn't a great first start.


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what did you see from Mack Brown?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1175393]what did you see from Mack Brown?[/QUOTE]



Off the top of my head, on his longest run he had a hole you could drive two trucks through side by side. I'll post something later.


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[quote=WillH;1175395]Off the top of my head, on his longest run he had a hole you could drive two [B]trucks[/B] through side by side. I'll post something later.


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Would you say a Mack truck?

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[quote=mredskins;1175396]Would you say a Mack truck?[/quote]

this is great

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Alright so here's the play I was talking about. I'm not sure if this was a designed play or a great decision by Mack.

After the handoff he's approaching the line, but there's nothing there.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170928/db481320f3bc12621c09133395214b36.jpg[/IMG]

So he bounces it to the outside, so was it the play call or a good cut? I honestly think it was designed based on the way Davis is blocking on the edge, but regardless, he sells the inside run well and bounces out to open field.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170928/b95788fccb879402dbfdaeaa5355b9ac.jpg[/IMG]

And just look at all that room, it looks like this could be a break away play, but which way to go? From this angle it looks like he has a defender in the middle and if he follows his block maybe he can get by him to the outside. But look at the other angle
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170928/ca6c96ee07f3e3f3a1104e28885b7bd5.jpg[/IMG]

Looks like a beautiful lane to the inside, but . . .
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170928/ca83f46f8828908d629024597d546364.jpg[/IMG]

Instead he kind of awkwardly hides behind his blocker until he is surrounded. While I appreciate him trying to follow his blocks, he needs to set his cut off of the block and try to break this open.

That said, watching the play in motion, I don't know that either choice would have been the better one. If he cut inside he'd still have to break a tackle or some ankles, and maybe he can't .

Overall he actually had some good looking plays, they didn't gain as much, but he made some nice cuts. More to come ...


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Love these breakdowns Will, thanks for doing these. I'm sure Perrine will get better with time but Mack impressed where he failed against the Raiders. Just having the vision to bounce it outside when there's nothing at the line is smart.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1175409]Love these breakdowns Will, thanks for doing these. I'm sure Perrine will get better with time but Mack impressed where he failed against the Raiders. Just having the vision to bounce it outside when there's nothing at the line is smart.[/QUOTE]



Thanks man, I'll try to keep them coming.

Yeah, definitely agree. Mack has better discipline and knows how to pick his spots. He also has more of a burst, but in the long run I think Perine has more potential to become a true #1 RB, but he definitely isn't there yet. We may not have that back on our team, but we may have enough to work with for now. I'm hoping though that Perine will get coached up and the game will slow down and he will be more confident in his decisions and can use that strength to break through tackles. We'll see.

But I digress. . .


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Cousins hands off to Mack Brown.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/f683e19e6457b043cc4e2f5a4f224e95.jpg[/IMG]

As Mack approaches the line he slows down moving out to his right behind Spencer Long with patience. Davis, Moses, Scherff, and Lauvao farthest down field make a wall of Burgandy. There's no well defined lane to follow, but there's definitely room to pick up some yards.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/cd8f2521269fbc7fa48264e7ff1edc81.jpg[/IMG]

Mack chooses his hole.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/a8a59415a0c45765a110ad6e3006c8dd.jpg[/IMG]

He bursts through with great acceleration.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/61c583e776093c43138e43377d2616b8.jpg[/IMG]

And finds enough space for a 6 yard gain.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/5dafacbba284875f341eaee15285bcbd.jpg[/IMG]


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Alright last one . . . For now

Cousins hands off to Mack. Everyone is pulling left.[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/7cac3bc8dacc674d7b713db00afd30e4.jpg[/IMG]

Mack Brown sees an opening cutting back to the right (Counter maybe?)
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/247aaf9711a2f920d3d0b1ee33af4131.jpg[/IMG]

He accelerates through the hole. He really is quick.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/a04d4674ceccd3e7dd2192f3d3c794f6.jpg[/IMG]

They get ahold of him at the 32.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/274361cba58ca1c6425f56baf71edd78.jpg[/IMG]

But he drags them with him.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/d2031faeddebf791f345ed01eef8fbde.jpg[/IMG]

To the 27 for a 9 yard gain. Not too shabby.
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/e55ce32dea3d4fd8c3cdd678a0034648.jpg[/IMG]



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