Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Chico23231;1182491]I like Sprinkle..continue to coach up...V Davis is coming back next year...and let Jordan Reed heal up...I wouldn't change anything. Nile Paul has been good, but time to move on...maybe spend a late round pick for a practice squad type TE if one seems coachable with promise.[/quote]

Totally agree. I would look to draft a true blocking pass catcher who is a bigger and longer than Niles. Especially if he is anywhere close to BPA.

I do think this line of thinking has to change if he is hurt next year and his dead money becomes more favorable.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1182503]5th year in the league, he misses an average of 5-6 games a year and isn't 100% for many of the games he has played in. He has never played a full season. I seriously doubt he is suddenly going to have better luck staying on the field as he gets older, I think it is time to move on from him.[/QUOTE]I'd trade him for a 5 this OS

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Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1182510]I'd trade him for a 5 this OS

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk[/quote]Trading Reed this offseason would accelerate a ton of dead money against the cap.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

I'm glad some of you are not GM's.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1182513]I'm glad some of you are not GM's.[/quote]

You think this guy is going to magically get healthy after 5 injury riddled seasons? You want to pay a guy $9 mil a year (his contract averaged out) to miss 1/3 of the games entirely and play at less than 100% in many others? Last I checked an offensive player in street clothes does not present problems for an opposing teams defense.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

Yes, Reed is a great example of "What could have been". In the end he was injury prone and not dependable. He was great for the 4 or 5 games a year that you get him, but that is not enough to be a difference maker. I wonder what anyone would trade for him, if anything?

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

Thank goodness the FO signed Vernon Davis to a modest contract. At least he posts come gametime, and he's probably our best deep threat this season.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1182512]Trading Reed this offseason would accelerate a ton of dead money against the cap.[/quote]

actually they would save about $5 million, this includes about $5 million in dead money

[url=http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/2018/]Washington Redskins 2018 Salary Cap Table | Spotrac[/url]

time to renegotiate his contract or cut him

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Irrefutable;1182529]actually they would save about $5 million, this includes about $5 million in dead money

[url=http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/2018/]Washington Redskins 2018 Salary Cap Table | Spotrac[/url]

time to renegotiate his contract or cut him[/quote]

He is certainly a candidate to restructure and makes sense that he would to create some cap space to sign a #1 wr.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

The Glassman is officially done for 2017:
[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Bolt/Jordan-Reed-placed-on-injured-reserve--112178883[/url]

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1183073]The Glassman is officially done for 2017:
[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Bolt/Jordan-Reed-placed-on-injured-reserve--112178883[/url][/quote]

That's a good thing, he just wasn't right this season. Let him rest and recouperate. He'll be back next year. guaranteed

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

Reed played in 6 games and in 2 of those didn't even see 35% of the snaps. Solid season.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

Time to get a Donnie Warren, block-first TE. There isn't a TE on the roster that can block, which is a HUGE liability in the run game. Asking Reed and Davis to block is like asking a pig to recite Shakespeare. As Cooley has said all year, our TE's avoid contact.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=SouperMeister;1183085]Time to get a Donnie Warren, block-first TE. There isn't a TE on the roster that can block, which is a HUGE liability in the run game. Asking Reed and Davis to block is like asking a pig to recite Shakespeare. As Cooley has said all year, our TE's avoid contact.[/quote]

I'd want a TE that can do both. If you have a strictly run blocking TE you are basically giving a sign to the D that you plan to run. That's why prime TE's that can do both are so valuable.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=mooby;1183086]I'd want a TE that can do both. If you have a strictly run blocking TE you are basically giving a sign to the D that you plan to run. That's why prime TE's that can do both are so valuable.[/quote]I should have clarified, there is still a place for a receiving TE in 2 tight end sets. But as long as Jay doesn't utilize a FB in his offense, he needs a blocking TE to seal the edge. We don't have one of those on the current roster.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

3 more to IR including Reed

NBC Sports - ProFootballTalk: Washington puts three on IR, including Jordan Reedhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/12/washington-puts-three-on-ir-including-jordan-reed/

But remember folks we’re healthier than ever

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183077]That's a good thing, he just wasn't right this season. Let him rest and recouperate. He'll be back next year. guaranteed[/quote]

not with the Redskins @ $10 million dollars for 2018

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183077]That's a good thing, he just wasn't right this season. Let him rest and recouperate. He'll be back next year. guaranteed[/quote]

He'll be back to do what? Get hurt again? His body can't take the rigors of pro football.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1183129]He'll be back to do what? Get hurt again? His body can't take the rigors of pro football.[/quote]

yeah he's good for about 5 games a yr. No point in keeping Reed

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

Reed is worth bringing back just as long as there’s contingency plan. I like VD and Sprinkle but we should still look to add to the TE group in the draft.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

We've been missing Reed from a ton of games now. We were still able to compete well in Seattle and for most of the New Orleans game. This move to IR in no way explains why the team has gone in the toilet over the last two games.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Schneed10;1183143]We've been missing Reed from a ton of games now. We were still able to compete well in Seattle and for most of the New Orleans game. This move to IR in no way explains why the team has gone in the toilet over the last two games.[/quote]

The final straw was the CT injury IMO, that just killed this offense

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1183144]The final straw was the CT injury IMO, that just killed this offense[/quote]

Still no excuse for why we can't run in short yardage with players like Williams and Scherff playing, and a big back like Perine in the backfield.

I know that's not your point. Just saying how absurdly reductionist it is to say that injuries are our chief problem.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Schneed10;1183145]Still no excuse for why we can't run in short yardage with players like Williams and Scherff playing, and a big back like Perine in the backfield.

I know that's not your point. Just saying how absurdly reductionist it is to say that injuries are our chief problem.[/quote]

Chief problem?, hmm... I would argue that Jonathan Allen going down was a huge blow to our defense. You can clearly see a different monster pre and post JA injury.

I think the CT injury exploited an offense that was overly reliant on him, which is probably to your point. On offense we weren't destroyed by injuries across the board, but got dealt a death blow due to our lack of talent (specifically on the WR corps). No way to recover from that.

But I see your point. Saying just "INJURIES" is a lazy and inaccurate statement on its own. I think it's probably not valid as standalone, but a large contributor to a bad season.

Lastly, why the fuck can't we run in short yardage situations ever? I'm curious as to what teams that can run in short yardage situations do differently and how we can replicate that.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Schneed10;1183145]Still no excuse for why we can't run in short yardage with players like Williams and Scherff playing, and a big back like Perine in the backfield.

I know that's not your point. Just saying how absurdly reductionist it is to say that injuries are our chief problem.[/quote]

For sure, sucks that he went down because he was on pace for 1600 yards! That is insane

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/34912/despite-jordan-reeds-injuries-keeping-him-remains-redskins-best-option]Despite injuries, keeping Jordan Reed remains Redskins' best option - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=MTK;1183177][url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/34912/despite-jordan-reeds-injuries-keeping-him-remains-redskins-best-option]Despite injuries, keeping Jordan Reed remains Redskins' best option - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

32 Ryan Grant Washington Redskins WR 72.5%
35 Chris Thompson Washington Redskins RB 72.2%
80 Vernon Davis Washington Redskins TE 63.8%
81 Jamison Crowder Washington Redskins WR 63.5%


And this is prob why, Grant (who people kill here) actually leads our team in catch %.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/here-are-reasons-why-redskins-wont-be-moving-jordan-reed-offseason]Here are the reasons why the Redskins won't be moving on from Jordan Reed this offseason | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1183194]32 Ryan Grant Washington Redskins WR 72.5%
35 Chris Thompson Washington Redskins RB 72.2%
80 Vernon Davis Washington Redskins TE 63.8%
81 Jamison Crowder Washington Redskins WR 63.5%


And this is prob why, Grant (who people kill here) actually leads our team in catch %.[/quote]

Says more about our lack of weapons than it does Ryan Grant's ability

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Schneed10;1183145]Still no excuse for why we can't run in short yardage with players like Williams and Scherff playing, and a big back like Perine in the backfield.

I know that's not your point. Just saying how absurdly reductionist it is to say that injuries are our chief problem.[/quote]

That baffles me too, I want to say our C and LG play is garbage and that no TEs on our roster can block but that seems like a cop out explanation

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=MTK;1183177][url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/34912/despite-jordan-reeds-injuries-keeping-him-remains-redskins-best-option]Despite injuries, keeping Jordan Reed remains Redskins' best option - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

Your the eternal optimist, we get that. The chances of Reed getting healthier as he ages are slim, expect more of the same or worse. He had one game this year where he really made an impact. As far as dead money if he is cut or traded, his whole salary was basically dead money this year.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

I wouldn’t say it’s about being optimistic, more like realistic. It’s unlikely anyone would trade for him, and when healthy he’s a difference maker. He’s got the type of talent that’s worth taking the chance on.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1183222]That baffles me too, [B]I want to say our C and LG play is garbage [/B]and that no TEs on our roster can block but that seems like a cop out explanation[/quote]

No you can say that, and you would be 100% right. The "no push" in the middle in the run game kills this team. Also a general lack of experienced talent at RB is another.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=Chico23231;1183245]No you can say that, and you would be 100% right. The "no push" in the middle in the run game kills this team. Also a general lack of experienced talent at RB is another.[/quote]

Im with quake. I thought it could be chalked up to no interior push and no blocking TEs ... but it does seem like a cop out. We have 2 studs in Trent and Scherff and Moses is above average. We should have been able to scheme/coach up/help an average LG and C.

I always thought RBs were just a product of O line and scheme and you dont need a top end RB .... but idk.

Baffling that it has been going on for years now. We have a great O line coach, some O line studs ... wth is going on?

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

So they are going to hang on to him.... let's hope in 2018 Reed plays all 16 games and doesn't get injured at all.

Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1183368]So they are going to hang on to him.... let's hope in 2018 Reed plays all 16 games and doesn't get injured at all.[/quote]

Better chance of getting hit by lightning while finding out you won the lottery than him playing anything near a full season.