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Prime time games are so overrated to me, maybe I'm approaching boomer status here but I hate staying up late on a weeknight especially only to see us get thumped.

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[quote=MTK;1251636]Prime time games are so overrated to me, maybe I'm approaching boomer status here but I hate staying up late on a weeknight especially only to see us get thumped.[/quote]

LMAO I actually feel the same now and yeah we never ever fucking win night games so who cares to play them?

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[QUOTE=mooby;1251632]I would like a Sunday night game because I like Michaels and Collinsworth, but I'm thrilled not to have any Monday nighters. A. I have to be at work at 5:30 every morning so Monday nighters suck, B. we suck a bag of dicks on Monday night dating back the last 10 years (2-13 record IIRC).



Give us a year to learn how to be competitive again and hopefully in 2021 we're worthy of a MNF game. I'm cool with it.[/QUOTE]How can anyone like Collinsworth. Ugh. The guy can change his obseevations mid game. Man Haskins is firat ballot hall of famer -look at that throw. 5 minutes later same game, Haskins doesnt belong on this field with throws like that. And that is coherent compared to his blabber.


As for the schedule release i have two opinions: 1 - it is like when the networks used to have a special on previewing their upcoming seasons. If a show I was interested in, I would watch it. 2- it is basically a chance for the analysts to gave a circle jerk around their favorite teams.

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Mike Clay of ESPN and their schedule machine predicts the skins to go 1-15 and only winning V Carolina.. That's just fucking dumb

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Get ready for plenty of dumb predictions


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[quote=skinsfan69;1251630]The reason why we suck in primetime is cause we're not a good team. We're also not a good team at home or on the road or at 4pm or probably at practice.[/quote]

Lol. Fair points.

It is way worse losing in primetime, especially on MNF tho. You have to wait all day or to the next day then stay up late. Then you proceed to get your ass kicked when the whole world is watching. Its terrible.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1251640]Mike Clay of ESPN and their schedule machine predicts the skins to go 1-15 and only winning V Carolina.. That's just fucking dumb

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Debbie downer here. Objectively it’s between us, bengals and lions as front runners for the no. 1 overall pick next year. Starting LT is not on the roster yet, secondary was not upgraded, LG play will probably fall below what flowers gave us, new coaches, young QB who needs development will be getting less of it bc of the Coronavirus.

Unless the front 4 really excel and take over some games, we should be a bottom 3 team again this year.

Outside of chase young, what impact player have we added that will make this 3-13 team a 6-10 team?

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1251644]Debbie downer here. Objectively it’s between us, bengals and lions as front runners for the no. 1 overall pick next year. Starting LT is not on the roster yet, secondary was not upgraded, LG play will probably fall below what flowers gave us, new coaches, young QB who needs development will be getting less of it bc of the Coronavirus.



Unless the front 4 really excel and take over some games, we should be a bottom 3 team again this year.



Outside of chase young, what impact player have we added that will make this 3-13 team a 6-10 team?[/QUOTE]Can't be a debbie downer with a nick of SunnySide. Please edit your post and have us winning atleast the division!

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[quote=SunnySide;1251644]Debbie downer here. Objectively it’s between us, bengals and lions as front runners for the no. 1 overall pick next year. Starting LT is not on the roster yet, secondary was not upgraded, LG play will probably fall below what flowers gave us, new coaches, young QB who needs development will be getting less of it bc of the Coronavirus.

Unless the front 4 really excel and take over some games, we should be a bottom 3 team again this year.

Outside of chase young, what impact player have we added that will make this 3-13 team a 6-10 team?[/quote]

Normally I agree with you but let me play devil's advocate here.

Starting LT not on the roster yet - best case scenario Charles wins the job outright or learns quickly enough Geron? or whoever fill-in we got can hold it down the first half of the year.

Secondary not upgraded - this might be one of those things where an upgraded pass rush masks secondary deficiencies. Also hopefully our young DB's will progress enough, after all this year should be about building the roster anyways.

LG not live up to Flowers - Wes Martin looked decent filling in for Scherff last year, hopefully he seizes the opportunity and runs with it.

New coaches - =/= They just need time.

Young qb needs development - Yes, not working out with his guys on offense will hurt this offseason. Still, even if we get off to a slow start I don't see Haskins not working as hard as possible to prove himself.

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If they finish dead last, HELLO FOOTBALL JESUS lol

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1251645]Can't be a debbie downer with a nick of SunnySide. Please edit your post and have us winning atleast the division!

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You mean the division we went 0-6 in last year, and were out scored by 86 points? Including 2 loses to the 4-12 giants.

:D

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1251651]You mean the division we win 6-0 this year, and we out score the other teams by 86 points? Including 2 blowout wins to the 4-12 giants.



:D[/QUOTE]

Fixed it for you

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[quote=mooby;1251647]Normally I agree with you but let me play devil's advocate here.

Starting LT not on the roster yet - best case scenario Charles wins the job outright or learns quickly enough Geron? or whoever fill-in we got can hold it down the first half of the year.

Secondary not upgraded - this might be one of those things where an upgraded pass rush masks secondary deficiencies. Also hopefully our young DB's will progress enough, after all this year should be about building the roster anyways.

LG not live up to Flowers - Wes Martin looked decent filling in for Scherff last year, hopefully he seizes the opportunity and runs with it.

New coaches - =/= They just need time.

Young qb needs development - Yes, not working out with his guys on offense will hurt this offseason. Still, even if we get off to a slow start I don't see Haskins not working as hard as possible to prove himself.[/quote]

LT - no way we roll Charles or geron out week 1. I do think with injuries by seasons end they both get some starts. We should add a Donald Penn type or a better option isn't cut but I imagine a decent older vet will be cut that we can sign.

Secondary - that's my biggest concern. Outside slot corner fuller we have young unproven jags. Darby hopefully can stay healthy.

Looking at the schedule, I could see 5-11 and I'm cool with that. .500 in Ron's second year and we are building something.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1251644]Debbie downer here. Objectively it’s between us, bengals and lions as front runners for the no. 1 overall pick next year. Starting LT is not on the roster yet, secondary was not upgraded, LG play will probably fall below what flowers gave us, new coaches, young QB who needs development will be getting less of it bc of the Coronavirus.

Unless the front 4 really excel and take over some games, we should be a bottom 3 team again this year.

Outside of chase young, what impact player have we added that will make this 3-13 team a 6-10 team?[/QUOTE]


Jack Del Rio for one. Ron Rivera for another. Coaching will be a lot better and that matters.

I think Davis is an upgrade over Nicholson and Fuller is back too. On offense, I am excited about our RBs and young WRs - waiting to see who emerges there. OL scares me, not going to lie about that.

All talk until games start though.


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Haskins, the O line, Guice, and the secondary are the big questions. Coaching should be better than its been in years. Man I am so excited about Del Rio. Looking at this schedule after a full glass of koolaid I can imagine 9 wins. That is on a full glass. [emoji51]

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[quote=punch it in;1251678]Haskins, the O line, Guice, and the secondary are the big questions. Coaching should be better than its been in years. Man I am so excited about Del Rio. Looking at this schedule after a full glass of koolaid I can imagine 9 wins. That is on a full glass. [emoji51][/quote]

You need a bigger glass. Go get a big gulp!

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I see 5 wins as most realistic outcome. In their off season, the Bengals made a lot of moves. I do not think we can take it for granted t hat we will be better than them. I think there will be some improvement just due to the coaching. I think these coaches will actually try to work with Haskins rather than just throwing him out on the field they way Gruden did. Plus Del Rio will be far, far, far, far, far, far, far better as a DC than Manusky.

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I'm cautiously optimistic. Itll be nice to see what happens when we have a coach that puts gameplans together, and makes adjustments at the half. Remember when we had coaches that used to do that?

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I think Scott Turner is gonna surprise alottttt of people. Also the point of signing and drafting RB should really clue people to the direction of the offense.

I think last year we would say, the defense has the majority of talent on the team. The team went out and acquired 5 new starters there...Del Rio has had a chance to completely reshape that unit.

This is gonna be a run and play good defense team. The passing offense will get a chance to mesh and grow together...it’s not gonna be a rush job

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On paper it looks like a 4-5 win season but things change so fast in the NFL.. Remember last yr some said SF would be 4-12 and look what happened.

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If Haskins comes out wheeling and dealing like he ended last year, who knows, anything could happen. Sky's the limit if he's the real deal.

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To be honest when it comes to the passing game, I’m less worried about Haskins. I’m more worried that TE and no true outside WR outside of Terry develops.

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I see some are concerned with Secondary .. have no fear Did you not read that drafting Young would vault this D into top 10 ? We have used a lot of top picks on our D line .. Allen,Payne ,Sweat and others .. I hope this works out . We are really really thin at Oline And It’s all on Haskins . I hope he can stay upright !

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[quote=rocnrik;1251742]I see some are concerned with Secondary .. have no fear Did you not read that drafting Young would vault this D into top 10 ? We have used a lot of top picks on our D line .. Allen,Payne ,Sweat and others .. I hope this works out . [B]We are really really thin at Oline [/B]And It’s all on Haskins . I hope he can stay upright ![/quote]

I think they have more depth and versatility at O-line than they have had in years. They aren't all rock stars, and TW is gone, but if Charles is what they think he is, and Martin can slide in at LG, I think it'll be aight.

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Seems like every offseason we fret over the OL but somehow they always have a decent to good unit.

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[quote=MTK;1251750]Seems like every offseason we fret over the OL but somehow they always have a decent to good unit.[/quote]

Because Callahan was a wizard

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USA today has us 5-11 that's the best I've seen so far

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1251842]USA today has us 5-11 that's the best I've seen so far

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We were 3-13 last year. That's atrocious. Atrocious teams the season prior get atrocious predictions for the next season. Unless the Bengals are somehow predicted to win 9 games, I have no reason to be upset with any prediction that is more than 2 wins.

All these predictions are little better than grading the draft the 1st Monday afterwards anyways. At least 1 good team last year will miss the playoffs this season and at least 1 bad team will get in.

I'll settle for 1-15, if the 1 win is in Dallas on Thanksgiving. I'd actually prefer that outside of any other option besides winning the Super Bowl, if I didn't have to go thru another offseason of replacing Haskins. Adding the best player in the draft 2 years in a row would be pretty awesome tho.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1251860][B]I'll settle for 1-15, if the 1 win is in Dallas on Thanksgiving.[/B] I'd actually prefer that outside of any other option besides winning the Super Bowl, if I didn't have to go thru another offseason of replacing Haskins. Adding the best player in the draft 2 years in a row would be pretty awesome tho.[/quote]

Oh, no! I just couldn't handle 1-15. I need to see some progress. I would enjoy a heaping portion of beating Dallas on Thanksgiving, though. Let that be our signature win of the season.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1251865]Oh, no! I just couldn't handle 1-15. I need to see some progress. I would enjoy a heaping portion of beating Dallas on Thanksgiving, though. Let that be our signature win of the season.[/quote]

The irony is if we actually won that game, the worse we were overall, the more great/hilarious that win would be.

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I think the hardest thing to measure in a coaching change when trying to predict the first year's record for that new coach, is[B] culture[/B]. It could be a dramatic difference, or negligible difference ....


In an admittedly apples and oranges comparison, as a University of Louisville season ticket holder, we just went through year 1 of a new head coach, coming off a disastrous 2 and 10 season, where the team clearly gave up on the coaching staff, and one year removed from having Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson on our roster.

The roster had some gaping holes on it, but it also had some talent on it too.

New coach from Appalachian State comes in, preaching "culture, culture, culture", and got his team to buy in (which is probably easier on a collegiate level than pro) ... and wham ... 8 and 5 season, with a bowl win over an SEC program. And unlike the previous year where we set an NCAA record for giving up 60+ points in consecutive games, we showed fight in 12 of our 13 games.


As a Skins fan, watching the disaster that happened last year, it totally reminded me of what my favorite college team just went through.

Seeing Dunbar's antics of this past week, and knowing how RR handled that, just adds to what I HOPE is a similar buy in from the current Skins roster regarding [B]culture[/B]...

We all know we have some gaping holes in our roster, but we ALSO know we have some amazing talent too. Can the new coaching staff coach up that talent better than the previous regime?




So, factoring all this in ... how the hell can you attempt a prediction on next year's win-loss record?

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the status of our off-season programs and how much time this team gets to mesh and learn new systems will be the biggest thing to dictate our record this year IMO

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[QUOTE=Pervis_Griffith;1251902]I think the hardest thing to measure in a coaching change when trying to predict the first year's record for that new coach, is[B] culture[/B]. It could be a dramatic difference, or negligible difference ....


In an admittedly apples and oranges comparison, as a University of Louisville season ticket holder, we just went through year 1 of a new head coach, coming off a disastrous 2 and 10 season, where the team clearly gave up on the coaching staff, and one year removed from having Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson on our roster.

The roster had some gaping holes on it, but it also had some talent on it too.

New coach from Appalachian State comes in, preaching "culture, culture, culture", and got his team to buy in (which is probably easier on a collegiate level than pro) ... and wham ... 8 and 5 season, with a bowl win over an SEC program. And unlike the previous year where we set an NCAA record for giving up 60+ points in consecutive games, we showed fight in 12 of our 13 games.


As a Skins fan, watching the disaster that happened last year, it totally reminded me of what my favorite college team just went through.

Seeing Dunbar's antics of this past week, and knowing how RR handled that, just adds to what I HOPE is a similar buy in from the current Skins roster regarding [B]culture[/B]...

We all know we have some gaping holes in our roster, but we ALSO know we have some amazing talent too. Can the new coaching staff coach up that talent better than the previous regime?




So, factoring all this in ... how the hell can you attempt a prediction on next year's win-loss record?[/QUOTE]


Great post.


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Yes it was a great post and you are 100% correct, Coaching / Culture is #1 in college and pro sports. Every team has talent, its on the coaching to generate that winning culture

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Seeing no prime-time games on there brings joy to my heart lol

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