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GTripp0012 03-15-2012 04:49 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=skinsguy;899619]How can three #1's be every bit as good as three #1s AND a 2nd? Is it that new math?

I guess he was talking about the #4 being better than #6 which would equal a second rounder? I dunno........[/quote]Their ones were higher/more valuable/came sooner than our ones.

skinsguy 03-15-2012 04:55 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=GTripp0012;899621]Their ones were higher/more valuable/came sooner than our ones.[/quote]

The only sense I saw was their #4 and the other first rounder being this year as compared to having to wait to us next year's....of course I'm hoping that next year's first rounder is the last pick of the first round! :)

BigHairedAristocrat 03-15-2012 04:55 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
This is just a silly PR move.

The browns arent getting manning, they arent getting rg3, and they probably arent getting flynn. basically, theyre not getting any QB worth anything and holmgren is trying to pacify the browns fanbase by acting like he did everything he could and the rams just wanted to trade with us so theyll be less mad at him when they go another year without a quality quarterback.

GTripp0012 03-15-2012 04:55 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;899627]This is just a silly PR move.

The browns arent getting manning, they arent getting rg3, and they probably arent getting flynn. basically, theyre not getting any QB worth anything and holmgren is trying to pacify the browns fanbase by acting like he did everything he could and the rams just wanted to trade with us so theyll be less mad at him when they go another year without a quality quarterback.[/quote]Right.

Brody81 03-15-2012 04:58 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=NC_Skins;899562]I think somebody mad.


[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/03/cleveland_browns_mike_holmgren_13.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter]Cleveland Browns' Mike Holmgren says Browns' offer to Rams for RG3 was "every bit'' as good as Redskins' | cleveland.com[/url][/quote]

I posted awhile back that i felt the relationship between Shanny and fisher would be the difference that landed the #2 pick for us. I guess i was right! :goodjob:

Ruhskins 03-15-2012 05:37 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Brody81;899631]I posted awhile back that i felt the relationship between Shanny and fisher would be the difference that landed the #2 pick for us. I guess i was right! :goodjob:[/quote]

This could be the case, but if you are the Rams wouldn't you want the higher pick (Brown's #4) and to send RG3 to the AFC? Which is why I think that they may have not given the Rams an equal offer.

skinsfaninok 03-15-2012 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;899648]This could be the case, but if you are the Rams wouldn't you want the higher pick (Brown's #4) and to send RG3 to the AFC? Which is why I think that they may have not given the Rams an equal offer.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/15/holmgren-gripes-about-griffin-trade/[/url]

Hog1 03-15-2012 10:13 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Holmgren should have known to keep his mouth shut. Nothing good for his team could come from that sour grapes.....cry baby nonsense.

skinsfaninok 03-15-2012 10:18 PM

[QUOTE=Hog1;899786]Holmgren should have known to keep his mouth shut. Nothing good for his team could come from that sour grapes.....cry baby nonsense.[/QUOTE]

Yeah colt McCoy sure feels good today

mbedner3420 03-15-2012 10:19 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;899790]Yeah colt McCoy sure feels good today[/quote]

Wait until he learns he's being traded to the redskins...

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-15-2012 10:45 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[QUOTE=mbedner3420;899791]Wait until he learns he's being traded to the redskins...[/QUOTE]



Along with Jordan Shipley? I see what you did there.

MTK 03-15-2012 11:17 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Holmgren is full of shit.

There are coaches and front office guys that are friends all over the league.

Case in point from the article

[QUOTE]Holmgren has surely benefited from his own friendships and relationships many more times than he has been burned by those maintained by others. The Godfather of what once was known loosely as the Green Bay Mafia (Jon Gruden perhaps was Luca Brasi), Holmgren knows how to call in favors and/or throw his weight around when he needs to.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me.

CultBrennan59 03-15-2012 11:30 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Makes me glad we made that trade then and not Now...

skinsfanthru&thru 03-16-2012 01:14 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Don't know if anyone had posted this or not with all the RG3 stuff getting talked about, but I thought it was an awesome highlight reel. Looking forward to seeing that kind of play while wearing Redskins colors next year.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6JryHp0gJs&feature=related]Robert Griffin III (RG3) - Heisman Campaign 2011 Highlight Reel - YouTube[/ame]

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2012 08:18 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
When is Jon Gruden's QB special again? I really would like to see his interview with both Luck and Griffen.

skinsfaninok 03-16-2012 08:24 AM

[url]http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/14/keeping-an-open-mind-rg3-says-hes-not-assuming-hel/[/url]

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2012 08:30 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
I hope Griffin has a horrible Pro Day







(yes because I want Indy to take Luck)

steveherrin 03-16-2012 08:52 AM

Begins April 1 with luck then rg3 is next on the 3rd.

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SOUL-SKINS 03-16-2012 08:52 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;899955]I hope Griffin has a horrible Pro Day







(yes because I want Indy to take Luck)[/quote]

Yea I was thinking that ... With all the hype around RGIII lately.....What are the chances the Colts take him and not Luck .... I guess it's a win win for us ..... Also on a side note .... On Griffins jersey do u guys think he will put the III after Griffin ?? I hope he does ... Looks kinda cool ... Rather than just Griffin

Jontrem 03-16-2012 08:53 AM

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Very cool editing on that highlight reel, and god he throws a pretty deep ball!! Thanks for sharing!

mooby 03-16-2012 09:25 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
My biggest fear with RG3 is that he pulls an Eli before the draft and says he doesn't want to play for us. You guys have no idea how pissed I would be if that happened. And this fear is only because since we've traded for the 2nd overall pick, he hasn't really come out and gave us a ringing endorsement as a team he wants to play for.

ArtMonkDrillz 03-16-2012 09:35 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=mooby;899973]My biggest fear with RG3 is that he pulls an Eli before the draft and says he doesn't want to play for us. You guys have no idea how pissed I would be if that happened. And this fear is only because since we've traded for the 2nd overall pick, [B]he hasn't really come out and gave us a ringing endorsement as a team he wants to play for.[/B][/quote]He probably still wants to be at least considered for the 1st overall pick. Plus, he comes across as very diplomatic, IMO, so he may not want to say much until he's actually on a team.

Bubba305-ST21- 03-16-2012 09:37 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=mooby;899973]My biggest fear with RG3 is that he pulls an Eli before the draft and says he doesn't want to play for us. You guys have no idea how pissed I would be if that happened. And this fear is only because since we've traded for the 2nd overall pick, he hasn't really come out and gave us a ringing endorsement as a team he wants to play for.[/quote]

nah i dont think hes like that, i certainly hope not. Even if I could pick out of the two, i think i would pick him. Yes Luck is going to be a good qb in this league but I think RG3 will be as well he could be something remarkable.

mbedner3420 03-16-2012 09:38 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=mooby;899973]My biggest fear with RG3 is that he pulls an Eli before the draft and says he doesn't want to play for us. You guys have no idea how pissed I would be if that happened. And this fear is only because since we've traded for the 2nd overall pick, he hasn't really come out and gave us a ringing endorsement as a team he wants to play for.[/quote]

He came out during the combine and said he had a fantastic experience with the Redskins coaching staff and FO during interviews. (Though that could be just combine-speak.) My guess is he'll be thrilled to play for us and not the Browns.

MTK 03-16-2012 09:40 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
He's definitely not that kind of kid.

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2012 09:54 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=SOUL-SKINS;899961]Yea I was thinking that ... With all the hype around RGIII lately.....What are the chances the Colts take him and not Luck .... I guess it's a win win for us ..... Also on a side note .... On Griffins jersey do u guys think he will put the III after Griffin ?? I hope he does ... Looks kinda cool ... Rather than just Griffin[/quote]

He did in Baylor

CRedskinsRule 03-16-2012 09:55 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=steveherrin;899960]Begins April 1 with luck then rg3 is next on the 3rd.

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Thanks

And thanks SS for posting the full schedule.

mooby 03-16-2012 10:18 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
I don't think he's the kind of kid that would come out and publicly declare his non-interest in playing for us, I'm just kind of concerned that maybe he looks at how much we gave up and is saying to himself, "holy shit after all they gave up, and knowing in all likelihood that will be my team, I'm not sure if I can deal with all the pressure that will be put on me to succeed." Everything I've read indicates he does well under pressure, but as we all know putting the hopes of a franchise on one kid rarely works out.

MTK 03-16-2012 10:34 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=mooby;899990]I don't think he's the kind of kid that would come out and publicly declare his non-interest in playing for us, I'm just kind of concerned that maybe he looks at how much we gave up and is saying to himself, "holy shit after all they gave up, and knowing in all likelihood that will be my team, I'm not sure if I can deal with all the pressure that will be put on me to succeed." Everything I've read indicates he does well under pressure, but as we all know putting the hopes of a franchise on one kid rarely works out.[/quote]

If he's thinking that way he probably doesn't belong in the NFL.

There's going to be pressure no matter where he plays.

SOUL-SKINS 03-16-2012 10:39 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=mooby;899973]My biggest fear with RG3 is that he pulls an Eli before the draft and says he doesn't want to play for us. You guys have no idea how pissed I would be if that happened. And this fear is only because since we've traded for the 2nd overall pick, he hasn't really come out and gave us a ringing endorsement as a team he wants to play for.[/quote]

He was asked that during an interview .... An flat out said no ...
It's not in him to do that .....

mbedner3420 03-16-2012 10:39 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Mattyk;900000]If he's thinking that way he probably doesn't belong in the NFL.

There's going to be pressure no matter where he plays.[/quote]

He had to have known that whoever picked him up was going to have to spend a ton of picks. God knows the Rams weren't going to get him.

mooby 03-16-2012 10:43 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Mattyk;900000]If he's thinking that way he probably doesn't belong in the NFL.

There's going to be pressure no matter where he plays.[/quote]

True. But how many qb's have to deal with a desperate franchise like ours, combined with the fact that 3 first round picks were given up for them?

I think he has the talent and right mentality to succeed in the NFL, I'm just thinking about potential concerns.

RGIII 03-16-2012 10:47 AM

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I think that impressed me the most: the fact that RG3 was willing and able to propel Baylor's program.

MTK 03-16-2012 11:06 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=mooby;900008]True. But how many qb's have to deal with a desperate franchise like ours, combined with the fact that 3 first round picks were given up for them?

I think he has the talent and right mentality to succeed in the NFL, I'm just thinking about potential concerns.[/quote]

Plenty of QBs have gone to "desperate" franchises. The pressure is high regardless of what team you are on.

I understand thinking about potential concerns, but in this case I think he's well prepared to handle it.

mooby 03-16-2012 11:37 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Mattyk;900016]Plenty of QBs have gone to "desperate" franchises. The pressure is high regardless of what team you are on.

I understand thinking about potential concerns, but in this case I think he's well prepared to handle it.[/quote]

I wish the draft would just hurry up and get here already, I really can't wait to see hopefully RG3 walk across the stage and take a picture with The Rog holding up a Redskins jersey.

JoeRedskin 03-16-2012 11:41 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
I have not read back through the 50 pages of posts to see if this is already up but, wow, this guy is phenomenal:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/robert-griffin-iii-poised-to-handle-the-pressure/2012/03/11/gIQAuOA45R_story_2.html?sub=AR]Robert Griffin III: Poised to handle the pressure - The Washington Post[/url]

Normally, I'd put in a paragraph or two of the good stuff from the article. There's just too much there. Man, I am psyched about this kid.

Right now, he is just being diplomatic and, I am pretty sure, he thinks he is the best QB in the draft. I'm pretty sure that's why he hasn't made any comments one way or another about the Skins.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-16-2012 11:49 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;899984]He did in Baylor[/QUOTE]



There was someone named Robert Griffin on his team besides him but he'll probably have Griffin III on his jersey.

mooby 03-16-2012 12:00 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;900030]I have not read back through the 50 pages of posts to see if this is already up but, wow, this guy is phenomenal:

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/robert-griffin-iii-poised-to-handle-the-pressure/2012/03/11/gIQAuOA45R_story_2.html?sub=AR"]Robert Griffin III: Poised to handle the pressure - The Washington Post[/URL]

Normally, I'd put in a paragraph or two of the good stuff from the article. There's just too much there. Man, I am psyched about this kid.

Right now, he is just being diplomatic and, I am pretty sure, he thinks he is the best QB in the draft. I'm pretty sure that's why he hasn't made any comments one way or another about the Skins.[/quote]

Great article. And I hope you're right about RG3. It's also nice to see Sally Jenkins giving some love to the Redskins.

SirClintonPortis 03-16-2012 12:06 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;900030]I have not read back through the 50 pages of posts to see if this is already up but, wow, this guy is phenomenal:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/robert-griffin-iii-poised-to-handle-the-pressure/2012/03/11/gIQAuOA45R_story_2.html?sub=AR]Robert Griffin III: Poised to handle the pressure - The Washington Post[/url]

Normally, I'd put in a paragraph or two of the good stuff from the article. There's just too much there. Man, I am psyched about this kid.

Right now, he is just being diplomatic and, I am pretty sure, he thinks he is the best QB in the draft. I'm pretty sure that's why he hasn't made any comments one way or another about the Skins.[/quote]

So, one can conclude that he does not fit the godamned ****ing retarded and stupid stereotype for QBs that "running makes you unable or unwilling to use your brain".

Lotus 03-16-2012 01:00 PM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
My guess is that I say this once and then am ignored forever...

Since he said in his interview with Mooch that he doesn't like being called RGIII and prefers Griffin, can we please call him Griffin? If we're not going to call him what he wants to be called, who will?


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