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[quote=NC_Skins;905239][IMG]http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g56/chrisavery72/ExtremeRG3UMAD.gif[/IMG][/quote]

that's awesome

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Thanks to Smoot for getting my question through on the First Draft Podcast.
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Dear God I hate sports talk show radio. Can I just assume the relevant part is the title of the Youtube video?

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[quote=mooby;905269]Dear God I hate sports talk show radio. Can I just assume the relevant part is the title of the Youtube video?[/quote]

Of course. Though it was tough getting scolded by my idol and mentor Mel Kiper in the first part of that response.

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[quote=Mattyk;905111]I used to be a fan of the guy going back to his SU days, not so much anymore. He never takes any responsibility and always passes the buck. Lame.[/quote]

This. Lost a ton of respect for him over the past 3 yrs.

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Gruden's QB camp starts again tonight, here's a good preview with Luck

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/56436/video-grudens-qb-camp-with-luck]Video: Gruden's QB Camp with Luck - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;905490]Gruden's QB camp starts again tonight, here's a good preview with Luck

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/56436/video-grudens-qb-camp-with-luck]Video: Gruden's QB Camp with Luck - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Hey I was planning to go ahead and re-open the QB Camp thread I had started and stickied with the schedule since it's kicking off this weekend.

You want to go ahead and post this there and re-open it?

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[quote=Mattyk;905490]Gruden's QB camp starts again tonight, here's a good preview with Luck

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/56436/video-grudens-qb-camp-with-luck]Video: Gruden's QB Camp with Luck - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Nice tease.

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Apparently, Todd McShay is saying that there is very little difference between RG3 and Ryan Tannehill. I hope he is wrong, but it makes you wonder: Did we have to spend all those draft picks if Tannehill would have provided us with the same quality of play?

Overall, I'm happy with the trade, but I'll have to remember to ask myself this in three-five years...

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[quote=mbedner3420;905547]Apparently, Todd McShay is saying that there is very little difference between RG3 and Ryan Tannehill. I hope he is wrong, but it makes you wonder: Did we have to spend all those draft picks if Tannehill would have provided us with the same quality of play?

Overall, I'm happy with the trade, but I'll have to remember to ask myself this in three-five years...[/quote]

Let me say first that I am glad that we will get Griffin because he is the better QB.

That said, I don't think that the gap between Griffin and Tannehill is as big as some people think, which is why I was beating Tannehill's drum so much before the trade. IMO Tannehill is going to be very good. It will be interesting to see if Griffin will be two firsts and a second (the net of the trade) better than Tannehill.

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Keep in mind that if Tannehill goes before 6, we might not have had a chance to get him anyways.

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[quote=mbedner3420;905547]Apparently, Todd McShay is saying that there is very little difference between RG3 and Ryan Tannehill. I hope he is wrong, but it makes you wonder: Did we have to spend all those draft picks if Tannehill would have provided us with the same quality of play?

Overall, I'm happy with the trade, but I'll have to remember to ask myself this in three-five years...[/quote]

If Mayock said that, I'd give it a little more thought.. McShay, eh... I've got a general bias against ESPN guys anyways (think they say more things for effect than accuracy) but too many scouts have major questions about Tannehill for me to think the gap is close. One scout I read recently compared Tannehill to Kyle Boller coming out. Great athlete, great tools, no idea how to actually play QB at the next level.

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There's been a fair amount of backlash against Tannehill in recent days. It's not hard for me to envision Tannehill as a guy who is playing quarterback in this league at a high level, but it's hard for me to see a guy who ever has a lot of contractual security.

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[quote=Chico23231;905038]Its two first rounders, a second, and a swap of 1st rounders this year. St Louis is not gaining 3 first rounders and we are not losing 3 first rounders. Thats the way I see it.[/quote]

If i had a nickel for every time someone "explains" the deal for the number 2 pick, I think Id have more than the 540 million dollar jackpot. We gave them THREE, count em 3!! first round picks for the rights to the number two pick in this years draft (with RG3, this numero dos picko is like a number one pick any other year other than this year......).

Its just semantics..........who cares how people report on it. Everyone has an agenda, everyone wants to get their points across. So for one journalist, on Monday of next week, he is saying its 2 first rounders, but on thursday the next week, to help him prove whatever point he is trying to make, it behooves him to report the deal as 3 first rounders. All I know is that RG3 is gonna be a redskin, and i have never been as excited as this as a redskins fan for one prospect!!!!!!!

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[quote=Mechanix544;905629]If i had a nickel for every time someone "explains" the deal for the number 2 pick, I think Id have more than the 540 million dollar jackpot. We gave them THREE, count em 3!! first round picks for the rights to the number two pick in this years draft (with RG3, this numero dos picko is like a number one pick any other year other than this year......).

Its just semantics..........who cares how people report on it. Everyone has an agenda, everyone wants to get their points across. So for one journalist, on Monday of next week, he is saying its 2 first rounders, but on thursday the next week, to help him prove whatever point he is trying to make, it behooves him to report the deal as 3 first rounders. All I know is that RG3 is gonna be a redskin, and i have never been as excited as this as a redskins fan for one prospect!!!!!!![/quote]


Damn dude its the offseason, what the hell im i suppose to argue about?

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This is pretty interesting:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/gil-brandt-expects-osweiler-to-be-first-round-pick/]Gil Brandt expects Osweiler to be first-round pick | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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I would take Tannehill over Osweiler, given the choice. But I think the Dolphins are far more likely to trade [I]down[/I] for a Parcellsian prospect in Osweiler vs. trading up for a guy in Tannehill who their offensive coordinator has already invested a considerable amount of effort into to get him to this point.

I think Tannehill goes 5th overall to the Seahawks in a trade up.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;905643]I would take Tannehill over Osweiler, given the choice. But I think the Dolphins are far more likely to trade down for a Parcellsian prospect in Osweiler vs. trading up for a guy in Tannehill who their offensive coordinator has already invested a considerable amount of effort into to get him to this point.



I think Tannehill goes 5th overall to the Seahawks in a trade up.[/QUOTE]



Because the Seahawks didn't just sign Matt Flynn or anything.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;905651]Because the Seahawks didn't just sign Matt Flynn or anything.[/quote]

It's the Seahawks. Would you really be surprised?

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;905651]Because the Seahawks didn't just sign Matt Flynn or anything.[/QUOTE]

Flynn only got three year s but I still don't see them taking a qb

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[QUOTE=mbedner3420;905653]It's the Seahawks. Would you really be surprised?[/QUOTE]



If they traded up fo Tannehill yes I would as would everyone except GTripp.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;905651]Because the Seahawks didn't just sign Matt Flynn or anything.[/quote]I am not disputing that. Just pointing out that they're still aggressively involved in the quarterback market.

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Will the Seahawks select QB in the later rounds? Likely; but with Flynn signing, it's EXTREMELY unlikely they're going to trade up and select Tannehill at #5.

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[quote=vallin21;905671]Will the Seahawks select QB in the later rounds? Likely; but with Flynn signing, it's EXTREMELY unlikely they're going to trade up and select Tannehill at #5.[/quote]

tell you the truth, I could see Carroll drafting someone like Kellen Moore out of Boise St. in the 5th or 6th rounds and have him stashed away in case Flynn is a corn on the Kolb type flop.

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Seahawks, will be looking at blackmon in a trade up scenario I presume

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[quote=Mechanix544;905672]tell you the truth, I could see Carroll drafting someone like Kellen Moore out of Boise St. in the 5th or 6th rounds and have him stashed away in case Flynn is a corn on the Kolb type flop.[/quote]


HaHaHa Arizona gave Kolb a 7 million dollar bonus.
idiots!!!

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[quote=GTripp0012;905643]I would take Tannehill over Osweiler, given the choice. But I think the Dolphins are far more likely to trade [I]down[/I] for a Parcellsian prospect in Osweiler vs. trading up for a guy in Tannehill who their offensive coordinator has already invested a considerable amount of effort into to get him to this point.

I think Tannehill goes 5th overall to the Seahawks in a trade up.[/quote]

Tannehill will definitely be the 3rd QB drafted in this draft class. I would take Brandon Weeden over Osweiler. And while I'm at it, I'd take Nick Foles over Osweiler too.

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[url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2012/03/31/robert-griffin-iii-makes-appearance-at-washington-area-memorabilia-show/]Robert Griffin III Makes Appearance At Washington-Area Memorabilia Show - Redskins Journal[/url]

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[URL="https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=you+got+had&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1092&bih=533&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=6lV4T-bFFMu70AGPuqGyCQ#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=you+been+duped+son&oq=you+been+duped+son&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_l=img.3...7316l12206l0l12510l21l19l0l7l2l1l98l846l12l12l0.egsbsh.1.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=39cdadb1d6202e4b&biw=1092&bih=533"]Bruce Allen declares,"Unless the Colts take Tannehill with the 1st overall pick, we know which qb we're taking."[/URL]

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[quote=GTripp0012;905643]But I think the Dolphins are far more likely to trade [I]down[/I] for a Parcellsian prospect in Osweiler vs. trading up for a guy in Tannehill who their offensive coordinator has already invested a considerable amount of effort into to get him to this point.[/quote]Wouldn't Sherman's experience with Tannehill make him much more appealing then Osweiler?

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No matter what anybody says....I [B]Did Not[/B] bite on Moobys 4/1 link........sigh

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[URL="http://tinyurl.com/y8ufsnp"]www.sportsguys.com/#rg3luck[/URL]

I didn't know that Luck and RGIII had a private throwing session together. Warning: crappy cell phone filming.

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1994 called, they want their digital camera back.

seriosuly, wtf that footage is TERRRIBLE.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7760128&categoryid=2378529]Gruden Camp: RG3 - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url]

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;905920][url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7760128&categoryid=2378529]Gruden Camp: RG3 - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks

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[quote=mooby;905811][URL="https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=you+got+had&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1092&bih=533&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=6lV4T-bFFMu70AGPuqGyCQ#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=you+been+duped+son&oq=you+been+duped+son&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_l=img.3...7316l12206l0l12510l21l19l0l7l2l1l98l846l12l12l0.egsbsh.1.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=39cdadb1d6202e4b&biw=1092&bih=533"]Bruce Allen declares,"Unless the Colts take Tannehill with the 1st overall pick, we know which qb we're taking."[/URL][/quote]

That was lame

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[quote=The Goat;906057]That was lame[/quote]

I thought about trying harder, but I decided you guys weren't worth the effort. ;)

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[quote=mooby;906068]I thought about trying harder, but I decided you guys weren't worth the effort. ;)[/quote]

Really can't argue w/ you there man ;)

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Someone on Hogshaven just pointed this out:

[QUOTE]Chris Russell ‏ @Russellmania980

I have no idea if true RT @coltsinsider – #Colts have reached out to Luck camp & begun negotiations in earnest. Luck’s uncle is his agent.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=mbedner3420;906079]Someone on Hogshaven just pointed this out:[/quote]

LOL. Someone wise always told me to mix family and business.

/sarcasm.