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[quote=mbedner3420;906079]Someone on Hogshaven just pointed this out:[/quote]

I think we can go ahead and put up some RGIII avatars now. :)

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[quote=mooby;906081]LOL. Someone wise always told me to mix family and business.

/sarcasm.[/quote]

agreed. That seems like a dangerous move.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828091a2/article/report-colts-seriously-still-considering-griffin?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Report: Colts 'seriously still considering' Griffin[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;906158][URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828091a2/article/report-colts-seriously-still-considering-griffin?module=HP11_headline_stack"]NFL.com news: Report: Colts 'seriously still considering' Griffin[/URL][/quote]


Do you think the colts are willing to risk taking RGIII, in order to trade him to us for luck plust some later picks? Does SS know if anything is actually known, but noone is letting it out that the colts are OFFICALLY taking Luck?? and this is just not the media trying to make it like the manning/rivers deal

Sorry, Just waking up, so I hope I explained it well enough.

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We've already given up enough picks as it is. I think we'd be very happy with either guy.

That said, Colts are taking Luck.

I honestly be disapointed if RGIII went to the colts.

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[quote=Mattyk;906163]We've already given up enough picks as it is. I think we'd be very happy with either guy.

That said, Colts are taking Luck.[/quote]


Thanks Matty. was just worried cuz the colts havent started negotiating a contract or signed Luck yet... maybe they are having second thoughts..
just my fears

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[quote=skinsfaninok;906158][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828091a2/article/report-colts-seriously-still-considering-griffin?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Report: Colts 'seriously still considering' Griffin[/url][/quote]

Seems more like someone, either Wilbon or a Colts employee (read NFL employee), is trying to build up the hype for this years draft. Still I just don't see it. Especially with these pictures floating around the net
[IMG]http://cdn.blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/files/2012/03/ApVRXo7CQAARAYq.jpg[/IMG]

I don't think Griffin would have shown up if he wasn't sure that the Colts would be selecting Luck. If he goes to a similar show in Indy to sign helmets then let me know but until then it's pretty much decided.


[quote=Darrell_Green_28;906167]Thanks Matty. was just worried cuz the colts havent started negotiating a contract or signed Luck yet... maybe they are having second thoughts..
just my fears[/quote]

Just curious, how do you negotiate when theres a rookie wage scale?

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[quote=mredskins;906164]I honestly be disapointed if RGIII went to the colts.[/quote]

I wouldn't Luck is just as talented, can't go wrong with either.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;906173]Seems more like someone, either Wilbon or a Colts employee (read NFL employee), is trying to build up the hype for this years draft. Still I just don't see it. Especially with these pictures floating around the net
[IMG]http://cdn.blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/files/2012/03/ApVRXo7CQAARAYq.jpg[/IMG]

I don't think Griffin would have shown up if he wasn't sure that the Colts would be selecting Luck. If he goes to a similar show in Indy to sign helmets then let me know but until then it's pretty much decided.




Just curious, how do you negotiate when theres a rookie wage scale?[/quote]

K then not negotiate, go ahead and sign him then..

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[quote=mredskins;906164]I honestly be disapointed if RGIII went to the colts.[/quote]

Yeah especially after I drafted him in my Madden League I play in. :woot:

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[quote=mredskins;906164]I honestly be disapointed if RGIII went to the colts.[/quote]

I know what you mean. We've had our hearts set on RG3 for months. If the Colts didn't select Luck and instead drafted Griffin, I would be somewhat okay with it because either way we still come away with a franchise QB.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;906209]I know what you mean. We've had our hearts set on RG3 for months. If the Colts didn't select Luck and instead drafted Griffin, I would be somewhat okay with it because either way we still come away with a franchise QB.[/quote]

I know Luck will be a franchise QB no doubt. I just feel like RGIII has the potential to be something we have never seen before under center and to think he will be wearing burgundy and gold just gives me goosebumps!

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[quote=Dirtbag59;906173]Seems more like someone, either Wilbon or a Colts employee (read NFL employee), is trying to build up the hype for this years draft. Still I just don't see it. Especially with these pictures floating around the net[/quote]


Wilbon stole information from a person's article and didn't give credit.


[url=http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/03/23/cosell-talks-its-not-always-luck/]Cosell Talks: It’s Not Always Luck : NFL Films Blog[/url]


Greg Cosell of NFL films currently broke down RGIII and Luck and he came away with the feeling that RGIII was better in the pocket than Luck. This is a great read and I suggest Skin fans (and other NFC East fans so you can see your demise coming) read it.


[quote]Two other traits really impressed me in evaluating Griffin. The first was his patience and composure in the pocket. He did not move when the bodies started closing it down. He threw effectively out of what we call a “muddied” pocket”. He did not need much functional space to deliver the ball with velocity and distance. Surprisingly, in my 5 game breakdown of Luck, he exhibited a tendency to move too quickly, to leave the pocket too early. The result was often a positive because of his athleticism and ability to throw on the run, but I am very anxious to chart this element of his game in the NFL.

The second characteristic of Griffin’s play that stood out, and projects very well to the NFL, was his ability to throw from different platforms, or more descriptively, arm angles, and remain accurate. It’s especially important given his 6’3” height, an inch or two shorter than would be considered ideal for an NFL quarterback. I’m certainly not suggesting Griffin is the equal of Aaron Rodgers at this point, but that attribute has helped elevate Rodgers to elite status.[/quote]

[quote]The bottom line in my 5 game film evaluation: Griffin is a superior arm talent and natural passer than Luck[/quote]

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;906162]Do you think the colts are willing to risk taking RGIII, in order to trade him to us for luck plust some later picks? Does SS know if anything is actually known, but noone is letting it out that the colts are OFFICALLY taking Luck?? and this is just not the media trying to make it like the manning/rivers deal

Sorry, Just waking up, so I hope I explained it well enough.[/quote]

I thought we already went over this insanity. A team isn't going to draft a person they don't want in hopes of leveraging some team to give them draft picks.


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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/colts-get-their-close-up-with-luck/]Colts get their close up with Luck | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;906237][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/colts-get-their-close-up-with-luck/"]Colts get their close up with Luck | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

[quote]
It’s unknown when, or if, the Colts will take a closer look at Griffin. If they don’t, it most likely will mean that Luck will be the pick.
[/quote]

It was my understanding that the Colts had already invited RG3 to their facility and he refused to go. Remember however that the Colts were rumored to have brought a lot of coaches to the RG3 Pro Day, then only brought 2 people (QB, and LB coach) to the Luck Pro Day. So I'm not sure if this is the team simply wanting their own private showing or if they will be discussing more. IF RG3 did refuse to go see them then there could be many things derived from that.

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Who is saying he refused to work out for the Colts?

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[quote=SBXVII;906243]It was my understanding that the Colts had already invited RG3 to their facility and he refused to go. Remember however that the Colts were rumored to have brought a lot of coaches to the RG3 Pro Day, then only brought 2 people (QB, and LB coach) to the Luck Pro Day. So I'm not sure if this is the team simply wanting their own private showing or if they will be discussing more. IF RG3 did refuse to go see them then there could be many things derived from that.[/quote]

I think you pulled that out of thin air. Any source on RGIII refusing to do a private workout with the Colts? If anything, it's the Colts that are responsible for no private workout being given. That's because they have a owner who's already dead set on Luck since he most likely mirrors the image of Peyton.

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[quote=NC_Skins;906253]I think you pulled that out of thin air. Any source on RGIII refusing to do a private workout with the Colts? If anything, it's the Colts that are responsible for no private workout being given. That's because they have a owner who's already dead set on Luck since he most likely mirrors the image of Peyton.[/quote]

All I can find is some chatter on Twitter that RG3 turned down ALL private workouts, letting his combine and pro day stand on their own.

So to clarify, he did not specifically turn down just the Colts.

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SBXVII has his info a bit mixed up. RG3 is not holding private workouts with any teams, not just the Colts

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[quote=Mattyk;906260]All I can find is some chatter on Twitter that RG3 turned down ALL private workouts, letting his combine and pro day stand on their own.

So to clarify, he did not specifically turn down just the Colts.[/quote]

Beat me to it. But yeah that's what it is. Confirmed it with Baylor just now

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[quote=Dirtbag59;906173]



Just curious, how do you negotiate when theres a rookie wage scale?[/quote]

Well it's my understanding the rookie wage scale is just a guideline for what they should be payed according to draft slot. Teams still have to negotiate contracts with the rookies. But I think there is an actual cap on how much money you can distribute to your rookie class, and that factors into it as well.

Griff declined invite from colts according to irsays twitter

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/griffin-tells-colts-no-to-private-workout/]Griffin tells Colts “no” to private workout | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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No one reads anymore

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Does anyone read anymore?

;)

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[quote=Mattyk;906315]Does anyone read anymore?

;)[/quote]

What?

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[quote=Mattyk;906260]All I can find is some chatter on Twitter that RG3 turned down ALL private workouts, letting his combine and pro day stand on their own.

So to clarify, he did not specifically turn down just the Colts.[/quote]

This is slightly curious. Since it's pretty clear he's coming here (forget Wilbon, he is just backing up what his boy McBust said and is equally bitter) I wonder why he didn't want to come in and do a private workout with the Redskins. I guess it really doesn't matter at the end of the day.

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[quote=Mattyk;906315]Does anyone read anymore?

;)[/quote]

According to Jim Irsay's Twitter, Griffin declined a private workout with the Colts.

Just remember who told you first, the #1 source for breaking news on this site, ME.

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Does anybody even read anymore? Sure wished I wasn't the only one to notice this trend!!

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[quote=mooby;906331]According to Jim Irsay's Twitter, Griffin declined a private workout with the Colts.

Just remember who told you first, the #1 source for breaking news on this site, ME.[/quote]

In other news, Luck is working out for the Colts today, and RG3 turned them down. Again in case you missed it, RG3 turned them down.

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[quote=Mattyk;906260]All I can find is some chatter on Twitter that RG3 turned down ALL private workouts, letting his combine and pro day stand on their own.

So to clarify, he did not specifically turn down just the Colts.[/quote]

I retract my "pulled out of thin air" statement made to SBVIII then. Kind of odd he decided no private workouts with any teams.

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[quote=Mattyk;906337]In other news, Luck is working out for the Colts today, and RG3 turned them down. Again in case you missed it, RG3 turned them down.[/quote]

Nuh uh! I broke the news first, you can't steal my breaking news! Everybody else is just copycats.

Just remember who told you first, the #1 source for breaking news on this site, ME.

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Ohs noes. I broke the site. It looks like a basic textual webpage with no background. :(

Edit: It came back. :)

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[quote=NC_Skins;906339]I retract my "pulled out of thin air" statement made to SBVIII then. Kind of odd he decided no private workouts with any teams.[/quote]

I guess more than anything it confirms what we already knew.

Luck to Indy, RG3 to the Skins.

The Skins were sold the moment they traded up. What's the point in wasting everyone's time in working him out.

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[quote=Paintrain;906322]This is slightly curious. Since it's pretty clear he's coming here (forget Wilbon, he is just backing up what his boy McBust said and is equally bitter) I wonder why he didn't want to come in and do a private workout with the Redskins. I guess it really doesn't matter at the end of the day.[/quote]

I think he declined all workouts because he thinks there is nothing left for him to prove to any team. He knows the lowest he's going is 2nd overall, you can see everything you need to see on the field in his game tape, and he's probably interviewed with plenty of teams at the combine already.

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[quote=mooby;906348]I think he declined all workouts because he thinks there is nothing left for him to prove to any team. He knows the lowest he's going is 2nd overall, you can see everything you need to see on the field in his game tape, and he's probably interviewed with plenty of teams at the combine already.[/quote]

It could also mean Griffin prefers the Skins to Colts, right?

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According to the Washington Post, Griffin will work out for the Redskins later this month.

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[B][SIZE="3"]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

Redskins never requested -- and will not request -- a private workout with RG3, feeling they saw what they needed at his pro day.[/SIZE][/B]