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[quote=Twilbert07;236340]Campbell is very green. But there's only one way to make him less green: Let him play! Preferrably ASAP.[/quote]

Campbell will get his turn eventually, and he'll probably do ok. He is in his seventh different offensive system in as many years. He would not outplay Mark Brunell right now or anytime this year for that matter. Romo had the pleasure of being in the same system for a few years, that is why he looked decent last night. He is comfortable with the system. I still think the jury is out on whether it was a good move to bench Bledsoe.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;236325]I'd say if Brunell comes out playing like crap in this game I'd make the switch. And with as well as he's played this year, normally you have to take a bad game every once in a while because nobody is perfect. But because it's Dallas, and because our backs are up against the wall, Brunell needs to continue to play at a high level, or they should make the switch mid game.[/QUOTE]


sigh i don't know how you keep saying Brunell has been playing at such a 'high' level. if he was, we wouldn't even be considering about talking about switching. you're a big fan of stats, here's a nice retort about stats from the WP:

"More delicate is the acknowledgment of both the coaching staff and players that, at least offensively, statistics can be misleading. The team is producing similar numbers, but not similar results, as last season. The coaches want to work more closely with Brunell, especially on his dropbacks on passing plays and his reading of defenses. While Brunell is a more accurate passer this year than a year ago, the coaching staff wants to emphasize to him that, in associate head coach Al Saunders's offense, decision-making must be immediate. Brunell's habit of dropping into the pocket, scanning the field and then patting the football has disrupted the timing of the offense, coaches say, and forced him to throw to a safety-valve receiver, most often a running back.

Last season after seven games, the running back tandem of Ladell Betts and Portis had combined for 20 receptions. This season, Betts and Portis have 38 catches."

that's almost double for you math types. this is behind the exact same offensive line as last year and perfectly illustrates Brunell's trouble with this new system. yes, maybe some of these were designed, but not double, is this what we brought Lloyd and Randle El here for? can't wait to hear how this is the defense's fault...

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Here's my prediction, if Brunell starts slow against Dallas and we get behind early, Campbell could get his shot. He's been taking a lot of snaps lately in practice, partly due to Brunell being banged up but one has to believe the main reason is the coaches realize they have to start getting him ready.

The rumors out of Redskins Park is they are getting Campbell ready for action "sooner rather than later". That time could be just around the corner.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;236346]I still think the jury is out on whether it was a good move to bench Bledsoe.[/quote]

Here is what I persoanlly think about the situation, I am really happy to see Bledsoe watching Romo from the sidelines. I have nothing against Bledsoe but he is not that good. Bledsoe and Brunell for that matter, were at the end of their careers when Dallas and Washington got them. We all know that if it wasn't for their ties with the coaches, they wouldn't get the job. Seriously, those two guys were never GREAT, just good, and they have only gotten worse.

The other issue is Dallas needs to find out if Romo is the quarterback of the future or not. If not Dallas would need to trade up in the draft to get Quinn or whoever is the top QB prospect. Let's face there has been many first round pick QBs that didn't make it big in the NFL, it's just not for them, college and NFL are different and we all know that(like Marcus Vick who is a WR/QB now, Robinson from Penn who is a RB, Matt Jones who is a WR now).

Benching Bledsoe was a smart decision even if Dallas loses the remaining games and I think the same thing should be done with Burnell, but again it is just my opinion.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;236346]Campbell will get his turn eventually, and he'll probably do ok. He is in his seventh different offensive system in as many years. He would not outplay Mark Brunell right now or anytime this year for that matter. Romo had the pleasure of being in the same system for a few years, that is why he looked decent last night. He is comfortable with the system. I still think the jury is out on whether it was a good move to bench Bledsoe.[/quote]

Campbell might not be able to outplay Brunell now, but he would deliver an intangible: a spark. Brunell gives me little hope that he'll ever do anything but "manage" more losses and an occasional win.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ;236334]Ok the reason I belive JC isn't starting yet it's that Gibbs just doesn't think he's ready or Campbell hasn't showed him in practice he manages this system (hey Brunnel doesn't either but still).

As 1 pointed out Campbell didn't show a lot in preseason against backups maybe his just 2 green.[/QUOTE]

I'll give you that he's green, but oh what talent he has. I think the qb position is important, but one of only 22 starting spots on a team. We've got bigger fish to fry, like finding our running game, getting our offense on the same page, and stopping the explosive plays that are ravaging our defense.

As for JC showing anything in practice, well he's running the scout team so there aren't that many opportunities for him to show much of anything. Thanks for the insight tho, d'boyz.

As much as I like the egalitarian in Parcells for starting an undrafted free agent at QB, what happens when Romo starts to slide? Nice game by the UDA last night, lets see how he handles himself in DC.

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Brunell has less of an arm than many high school QB's it's absolutely rediculous watching and routing for him. It's like watching Rudy try to make a tackle. The pain and anguish he has cause all of us in two of the last three years is reason enough to put someone else in for ONE DRIVE please

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it'd be stupid to think our running woes aren't in direct correlation to Brunell's passing tendencies.

it's gotten to the point where it just sucks to see any other NFL game. seeing all these passes made in the middle of the field on slants, sideline streaks, end zone fades, passes caught over the shoulder and in stride...why the hell is washington exempt???

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yeah, i mean this is what you do. you throw the jump ball to lloyd, let him come down with it. he did it all last year in san fran,.

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if brunell comes out slow in the dallas game and we dont score some points early. the fans at fed-ex will be calling for his head and i will be one of them. we are 2-5 we arent going anywhere with brunell at QB this isnt last year we would need to win 8 of 9 games to have a chance to make the playoffs. not happening with teams left we have to play. we need to let JC play bottom line. my predicition before the Indy game was if we lost JC would start doesnt look like that is going to happen. if we lose to dallas it better be JC who starts the rest of the season. i dont want to hear we played our guts out. or it wasnt marks fault. i dont care if it is his fault or not he is not the future here. i know some fans dont like when people scritize Gibbs but this not 80's or early 90's anymore this is what have u done for me latley league and hes hasnt done much yet. if he says he will be here two more years like he say he is lets move on

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I really think JC could give the team that much needed spark. If we as fans know the team isn't goin' anywhere with Brunell, don't you think the players on the team know that as well? I would think they would be frustrated with the same guy leading them. The Cowboys knew they weren't goin' anywhere with Bledsoe so Parcells benched him! What's so damn great about sorry ass Brunell? :doh:

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frankly, Brunell himself could provide the spark if he just started making the throws it takes to WIN the game not manage it. the question is will he? (can he?)

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[quote=illdefined;236359]Last season after seven games, the running back tandem of Ladell Betts and Portis had combined for 20 receptions. This season, Betts and Portis have 38 catches."[/quote]Don't hurt me! I can explain! :cheeky-sm

I think this stat is purely product of system. Since in Gibbs' offense the backs would block almost exclusively on many passing plays, they never had a chance to catch the passes. Brunell would throw passes away last year, whereas now, he completes those passes to the back. It would fortify your explination of Brunell's increased completion percentage this year.

It's certainly been a positive change. Brunell is averaging near a half yard more per attempt this year. (6.7 in 2005, 7.1 in 2006).

I would argue that this is an instance of him grasping the system (Saunders' history involves a ton of checkdowns), but no matter how you explain it, it doesn't change what hes done.

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[quote=illdefined;236473]frankly, Brunell himself could provide the spark if he just started making the throws it takes to WIN the game not manage it. the question is will he? (can he?)[/quote]Good Point. I don't think he's been asked by Saunders to go win the game, so until he is coached otherwise, I doubt we will see him begin to make riskier throws. Of course, if the defense continues to suck against the Cowboys, he may have to (which is pretty much what you've been saying all along). To this point, the Skins offense has never had to be desperate. Hopefully, they can grab the lead and keep it.

Please, GW, get it together out there.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;236126]Not to say that Romo didn't play well, but if I'm Gregg Williams and I need to save the season, I'm thanking the football gods that I get to face Tony Romo and not Drew Bledsoe next week. Williams' defense hasn't confused anyone this year, and with Romo who is still very green, he gets another shot.

Jason Campbell will not make his first start against a division rival. He may play some in relief this week, but only if the situation appears dire.[/QUOTE]

It's a good thing your not Greg Williams then!

How anyone can say that we are better off to go against a QB who outplayed Bledsoe which is why he's starting in the first place, I really don't get it. Are you saying John Fox knows nothing about defense? We couldn't beat an over the hill lowsy QB in Bledsoe, know you think we will have an easier time of it against Romo? Did you not see the game we played against the Titans, how confused did Vince Young look? How confused did Romo look last night? I really don't get that statement, especially since you stated that Williams hasen't confused anyone this season. My guess is because we have done nothing all year everyone better watch out?:confused: :doh: