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[quote=#56fanatic;673196]I personally think we have the players on hand to play the 3-4. Carter can play end and OLB as a rusher is certain situations. But honestly he kind of reminds me athletically as a Jason taylor, little bigger, but just as quick and strong. I think Blades can play the inside, i mean he was named the best LB in college just a few years ago, so the guy can play. I wish we would just start letting our young talent take the field. Chris Wilson is another guy, that I think can play OLB in a 3-4 system. He is quick, can cover and is a high motor guy.
If there is one thing about this organization that really kills me is the development of younger guys. They have them sitting on the sideline behind older guys when they should be playing. Especially Kelly and Tomas. Devin came on at the end of year, but Malcom never saw the damn field. Its a shame. Now with Randel smell gone, Malcom should become what eveyone thinks he should. Shannys kid thinks he has all the tools to be an Andre Johnson type reciever, which if true is scary if Tomas gets better mixing with cooley and Davis. The potential of this offense now with the addition of Larry Johnson and Portis splitting time, upgrades in the Oline really has me excited.[/quote]

Actually I don't think Carter, and he's admitted as much himself, can play DE in a 3-4 and definitely not OLB. He just too clumsy to be honest. He's a pure 4-3 defensive end.

That said, as I've stated elsewhere, I'm very leery of bringing Adam Carriker here because he's shown nothing (2 sacks in three years) and he's Courtney Brown waiting to happen, in my humble opinion. But if there's a year to gamble, this is the year to do it.

Bottom line, if we let Andre Carter go I hope we don't package him and draft picks to another team.

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Chiefs are bringing in Lilja as well...I would sign Lilja if I were us.

Whats the deal with Kevin Mawae? I know we have interest in him. Haven't heard his name in a while. Anyone know whats up with him and where he might be?

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Titans still want to bring him back, but not sure where that stands right now

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Smoot, if Snead had played as well in 2009 as he had in 2008 where would we be talking about him right now in the draft?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;673266]Smoot, if Snead had played as well in 2009 as he had in 2008 where would we be talking about him right now in the draft?[/quote]

early

smoot would be talking about him even if he joined the PGA though ;)

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[quote=tryfuhl;673268]early

smoot would be talking about him even if he joined the PGA though ;)[/quote]

"Oh man, Tiger better watch out. Snead can really drive the ball far." Probably has a site with Chuck Norris Snead jokes. The thing is that I recently saw someone suggest that Houston Nutt was a QB killer (not unusual for an SEC coach :P) and that Snead might have either lost his starting job permanently or regressed further under Nutt. Personally the guy intrigues me more and more though I still say he's a poor mans Jay Cutler.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;673282]"Oh man, Tiger better watch out. Snead can really drive the ball far." Probably has a site with Chuck Norris Snead jokes. The thing is that I recently saw someone suggest that Houston Nutt was a QB killer (not unusual for an SEC coach :P) and that Snead might have either lost his starting job permanently or regressed further under Nutt. Personally the guy intrigues me more and more though I still say he's [B]a poor mans Jay Cutler.[/B][/quote]Which is: a JP Losman clone?

I agree.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;673282]"Oh man, Tiger better watch out. Snead can really drive the ball far." Probably has a site with Chuck Norris Snead jokes. The thing is that I recently saw someone suggest that Houston Nutt was a QB killer (not unusual for an SEC coach :P) and that Snead might have either lost his starting job permanently or regressed further under Nutt. Personally the guy intrigues me more and more though[B] I still say he's a poor mans Jay Cutler.[/B][/quote]

I hope that you've enjoyed your 4 years at thewarpath

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[quote=skinsfaninok;673199][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/12/andre-carter-struggling-with-changes-in-redskins-defense/"]Andre Carter struggling with changes in Redskins' defense | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

Looks like AC may be on his way out also. Maybe we can get a 4th rder for him[/quote]


Don't hold your breath on that one or you will be mistaken for one of the blue man group.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;673199][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/12/andre-carter-struggling-with-changes-in-redskins-defense/]Andre Carter struggling with changes in Redskins' defense | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Looks like AC may be on his way out also. Maybe we can get a 4th rder for him[/quote]That sounds quite a bit different that the RI post today:
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/free-agency/andre-carter-is-not-unhappy-wi.html]Redskins Insider - Andre Carter is not unhappy with situation with Redskins[/url]

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[B]Kentucky Pro day[/B], RB Alphonso Smith (6-foot 1/4, 211), who did not work out at the combine, ran a 4.38 and 4.38 in the 40, 4.31 short shuttle and a 7.21 three-cone drill. He posted a 36-inch vertical jump, 9-9 broad jump, and 19 bench press lifts.

Did anyone watch Kentucky football this year, is this kid as good as his Pro Day numbers?Where does he project

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;673323]That sounds quite a bit different that the RI post today:
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/free-agency/andre-carter-is-not-unhappy-wi.html]Redskins Insider - Andre Carter is not unhappy with situation with Redskins[/url][/quote]

Good article. I think it puts things in a realistic perspective.

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[quote=SmootSmack;673189]Am I on your ignore list or something? :)

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/673171-post75.html[/URL][/quote]Untimely page turn. It's all Joe Redskin's fault. Dont look at me. :sleep:

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[quote=Dirtbag359;673266]Smoot, if Snead had played as well in 2009 as he had in 2008 where would we be talking about him right now in the draft?[/quote]

Much higher of course, I'd imagine. It's not an excuse because everyone has to deal with off the field issues but Snead had serious personal issues this past season which I believe affected his performance on the field.

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[url=http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/76066]azcentral.com blogs - Kent Somers - KentSomers - Cardinals talking contract with Whitehurst's agent[/url]

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Jake Delhomme to the Browns.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/13/browns-agree-to-two-year-deal-with-delhomme/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Browns agree to two-year deal with Delhomme «[/url]

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They're having an active off season: Tony Pashos, Ben Watson, Scott Fujita, and Jake Delhomme all were plucked from free agency. Cut Derek Anderson and now you have to wonder if Brady Quinn is about to be shown the door next.

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If they cut Quinn we need to take a look at him more competition.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;673510]If they cut Quinn we need to take a look at him more competition.[/quote]


Nope. Dude you have a ton of good Qbs in this draft. We can get Bradford/Clausen/McCoy and get Kafka, Elliot, Canfield, and maybe even Crompton as undrafted guys or low rounders. Forget Quinn, he is a known quantity and sucks ass. Shoot they put Anderson in to replace him.

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Stull is another possible low rounder or even an undrafted FA. Too many decent Qbs to just sign Quinn.

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If they cut him, i'm not saying give up a pick for him. you must think we have 50 picks in this draft competition is good, if we draft Bradford, we should just give him the job no competition right yeah i thought so.

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[quote=12thMan;673501]They're having an active off season: Tony Pashos, Ben Watson, Scott Fujita, and Jake Delhomme all were plucked from free agency. Cut Derek Anderson and now you have to wonder if Brady Quinn is about to be shown the door next.[/quote]

I don't think Holmgren can be anything like Parcells but he's surely giving it a try...

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Cleveland fans have to suffer another year. Maybe after that, they'll draft another QB.

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[quote=The Goat;673529]I don't think Holmgren can be anything like Parcells but he's surely giving it a try...[/quote]


Forgot about Seneca Wallace too.

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[quote=SmootSmack;673412]Much higher of course, I'd imagine. It's not an excuse because everyone has to deal with off the field issues [B]but Snead had serious personal issues this past season which I believe affected his performance on the field[/B].[/quote]

Really? What were they? I didn't hear anything about that.

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I just read that the Browns will pay him $7M this season!! WTF?? WHY?? Plus the Panthers owe him $12.7M this year. So he's going to make just shy of $20M in 2010 despite being the worst starting QB in the NFL in 2009. Staggering. Just staggering.

What a fail by Cleveland. And an even bigger fail by Carolina for giving him $20M in guaranteed money right after he threw 5 picks in a playoff game. Such a waste of money.

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[quote=12thMan;673498]Jake Delhomme to the Browns.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/13/browns-agree-to-two-year-deal-with-delhomme/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Browns agree to two-year deal with Delhomme «[/url][/quote]

Do you think he'll rediscover his game in Cleveland or is his confidence level shot as a result of his (less than impressive) last couple of years in Carolina?

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So does Jake Delhomme to Cleveland mean that the Browns won't be trading up to get a QB now in the first round/selecting one in the first at 7?

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Jake Delhomme is single handedly killing the NFLPA's argument about not having a large enough piece of the pie.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;673541]So does Jake Delhomme to Cleveland mean that the Browns won't be trading up to get a QB now in the first round/selecting one in the first at 7?[/quote]

Well after Charlie Frye, Luke McCown and Brady Quinn they could be looking again. Their luck with QB's is on par with ours. Cleveland may be one of those teams interested in staying out of the top five on draft day.

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[quote=GMScud;673539]I just read that the Browns will pay him $7M this season!! WTF?? WHY?? Plus the Panthers owe him $12.7M this year. So he's going to make just shy of $20M in 2010 despite being the worst starting QB in the NFL in 2009. Staggering. Just staggering.

What a fail by Cleveland. And an even bigger fail by Carolina for giving him $20M in guaranteed money right after he threw 5 picks in a playoff game. Such a waste of money.[/quote]


As bad as the Archuletta and Lloyd contracts were (Lloyd's being an extension), the Delhomme extension has to be one of the worst contracts in the history of the NFL.

The signs were there during the 08 regular season that Jake was losing it and then he turned it over 6 times against Arizona. After arguably the worst performance in the history of the NFL playoffs by a QB (5 picks and a lost fumble) Carolina gives Jake a 5 year extension with 20 million guaranteed. So coming off a huge season in 08, Jake continues to turn it over (even though their sorry asses somehow beat us) and ruins their season. Looking at how Carolina finished the season with Matt Moore (I have already forgotten his name....) they were a good team outside of Delhomme. In summary they paid Jake Delhomme over 20 million to ruin their 2009 season.

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[quote=Longtimefan;673540]Do you think he'll rediscover his game in Cleveland or is his confidence level shot as a result of his (less than impressive) last couple of years in Carolina?[/quote]He'll probably have to worry about incoming debris.
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He can hope Jerome Harrison carries the load while he manages the game with their Browns WRs, whoever they are.

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[quote=GTripp0012;673543]Jake Delhomme is single handedly killing the NFLPA's argument about not having a large enough piece of the pie.[/quote]

Except that Carolina can only blame themselves for giving him an extension. They were complete fools.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;673548]As bad as the Archuletta and Lloyd contracts were (Lloyd's being an extension), the Delhomme extension has to be one of the worst contracts in the history of the NFL.

The signs were there during the 08 regular season that Jake was losing it and then he turned it over 6 times against Arizona. After arguably the worst performance in the history of the NFL playoffs by a QB (5 picks and a lost fumble) Carolina gives Jake a 5 year extension with 20 million guaranteed. So coming off a huge season in 08, Jake continues to turn it over (even though their sorry asses somehow beat us) and ruins their season. Looking at how Carolina finished the season with Matt Moore (I have already forgotten his name....) they were a good team outside of Delhomme. In summary they paid Jake Delhomme over 20 million to ruin their 2009 season.[/quote]GTripp did not contribute to this post, but he does approve the message.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;673549]He'll probably have to worry about incoming debris.
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He can hope Jerome Harrison carries the load and he manages the game with their Browns WRs, whoever they are.[/quote]

Maybe he'll have the opportunity to re-live Derek Anderson's experience and form the same opinion of the Cleveland fans. He can begin rehearsing his apology now.

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[quote=GTripp0012;673551]GTripp did not contribute to this post, but he does approve the message.[/quote]


Remember the Sean Gilbert trade to Carolina?....wow.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;673541]So does Jake Delhomme to Cleveland mean that the Browns won't be trading up to get a QB now in the first round/selecting one in the first at 7?[/quote]

I think it depends on what they do with Brady Quinn. They're trying to trade him, and if they do they'll almost certainly have to pick a QB at some point on draft day. Even if some miracle happens and Delhomme becomes a solid starter for a few more years, he's 35 years old. Hell, Seneca Wallace could beat him out in camp and they'd have a $7M/yr backup. :doh:

Thing is, Cleveland needs so much help in so many places. They have no receivers at all and basically every position on defense is a mess. Their D is so bad, I don't see how they don't take the best defensive player available at #7. Or maybe Dez Bryant.

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[quote=GMScud;673558]I think it depends on what they do with Brady Quinn. They're trying to trade him, and if they do they'll almost certainly have to pick a QB at some point on draft day. Even if some miracle happens and Delhomme becomes a solid starter for a few more years, he's 35 years old. Hell, Seneca Wallace could beat him out in camp and they'd have a $7M/yr backup. :doh:

Thing is, Cleveland needs so much help in so many places. They have no receivers at all and basically every position on defense is a mess. Their D is so bad, I don't see how they don't take the best defensive player available at #7. Or maybe Dez Bryant.[/quote]

For precisely the reasons you point out, I think Quinn's trade value just plummeted with them signing Jake to such a lucrative contract and bringing in Seneca Wallace.

If I'm the GM of another team, these recent moves are a sure signal that they intend to part ways with Quinn, so why give up picks for a lame duck QB. I think either they bring Brady Quinn back to camp and let him compete for the starting spot --again--or outright release him.

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[quote=GMScud;673538]Really? What were they? I didn't hear anything about that.[/quote]

Um...maybe I'll PM you

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[quote=SmootSmack;673563]Um...maybe I'll PM you[/quote]

Cool. I'd like to know. I'm an SEC guy, and I was high on Snead going into the 2009 season.