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Swarley 04-17-2011 11:58 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
What are you suggesting then. That Quinn has a death wish?? I'm really struggling to see your point.

SmootSmack 04-18-2011 12:01 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=juskins;793964]This Kid, as you suggest, is not too smart. If I had a brain tumor I would be looking to cure my situation asap.

Every six months he has a MRI to determine if the tumor has grown. What does that tell you? Does one have to be a doctor to come to the conclusion that Quinn is playing Russian Roulette with his life?[/quote]

You do know he underwent a 6 hour procedure right? But, he still has to go through standard tests to ensure it hasn't recurred

juskins 04-18-2011 12:02 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=GreekSkin;793958]Quinns issue is a very complex one and yet you're attempting to make it a simple black and white issue. I'm sure you don't have all the facts at hand so I would wait before making claims that "he isn't being honest".[/quote]


HE HAS A BRAIN TUMOR! What more facts do I need. Do some research on a brain tumor and see what can be done to eliminate the tumor. Did Quinn have his tumor biopsied? He doesn't know if its cancerous. All he is concern with is if it has grown.

Stop attacking me for raising a red flag.

SmootSmack 04-18-2011 12:06 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=juskins;793967]HE HAS A BRAIN TUMOR! What more facts do I need. Do some research on a brain tumor and see what can be done to eliminate the tumor. Did Quinn have his tumor biopsied? He doesn't know if its cancerous. All he is concern with is if it has grown.

Stop attacking me for raising a red flag.[/quote]

Of course he had biopsied. how do you think they determined it was a benign, not malignant, tumor?

juskins 04-18-2011 12:11 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=GreekSkin;793965]What are you suggesting then. That Quinn has a death wish?? I'm really struggling to see your point.[/quote]


He is not too smart, is he? He has a primary tumor. Primary tumors reside in the head. Secondary tumors reside in other parts of the body and can migrate to the head. But they are still considered to be secondary tumors.

juskins 04-18-2011 12:15 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;793968]Of course he had biopsied. how do you think they determined it was a benign, not malignant, tumor?[/quote]



Do you know this for a fact?

And if he knows it is benign, why in hell would this fool not do something about it?

I hope the Redskins stay away from this head case (no pun intended).

SmootSmack 04-18-2011 12:18 AM

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[quote=juskins;793970]Do you know this for a fact?

And if he knows it is benign, why in hell would this fool not do something about it?

I hope the Redskins stay away from this head case (no pun intended).[/quote]

[url=http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2007/oct/30/fort_dorchester_star_undergoes_brain_sur20556/]Fort Dorchester star undergoes brain surgery | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment[/url]

I don't see how you don't understand he did do something about it. He underwent major surgery, but he still has to get checked on regularly. It seems like you're saying he should just stop living his daily life and wait for the inevitable

juskins 04-18-2011 12:34 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;793971][url=http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2007/oct/30/fort_dorchester_star_undergoes_brain_sur20556/]Fort Dorchester star undergoes brain surgery | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment[/url]

I don't see how you don't understand he did do something about it. He underwent major surgery, but he still has to get checked on regularly. It seems like you're saying he should just stop living his daily life and wait for the inevitable[/quote]


I didn't have all the facts, for that, I apologize. But, I still hope the Skins stay away from him.

I think its commendable of Quinn to get back to this point of pursuing a career in the NFL. I wish him the best.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-18-2011 12:36 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;793968]Of course he had biopsied. how do you think they determined it was a benign, not malignant, tumor?[/quote]

Magic 8 Ball?

SmootSmack 04-18-2011 12:39 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
Probably would have served you better to get some of the facts first, or at least listen to what people were trying to tell you throughout this thread

Anyhow, I realize he may seem to pose a bit of a higher risk than say something with a bad forearm on his throwing arm, but I'm not sure that's necessarily the case.

I'd be ok with him at 10, I know he'll get the best care possible. But, even though I've been predicting he'd be our top choice at 10, he wouldn't necessarily be my first choice.

But, like you, I wish them the best. And especially if he's wearing the burgundy and gold

SmootSmack 04-18-2011 12:39 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;793974]Magic 8 Ball?[/quote]

That'd be amazing

juskins 04-18-2011 12:50 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;793975]Probably would have served you better to get some of the facts first, or at least listen to what people were trying to tell you throughout this thread

Anyhow, I realize he may seem to pose a bit of a higher risk than say something with a bad forearm on his throwing arm, but I'm not sure that's necessarily the case.

I'd be ok with him at 10, I know he'll get the best care possible. But, even though I've been predicting he'd be our top choice at 10, he wouldn't necessarily be my first choice.

But, like you, I wish them the best. And especially if he's wearing the burgundy and gold[/quote]



That's what I get for relying on others to fill-in the details instead of during my own research.

The best thing for the Skins to do in my estimation is to trade down, if they can, and get more picks.

Finish rebuilding the OLine at RT and Center.

Lotus 04-18-2011 07:46 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=juskins;793977][B]That's what I get for relying on others to fill-in the details instead of during my own research.[/B]

The best thing for the Skins to do in my estimation is to trade down, if they can, and get more picks.

Finish rebuilding the OLine at RT and Center.[/quote]

Everyone else here was giving you proper information. All you had to do was listen.

cobracai1 04-18-2011 08:06 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
The reality of brain tumors is that there are many different types and different prognosis. I talked to my colleague who is a neurosurgeon and he thought that with quinn such as with anyone else we are just not sure. The fact that it was benign means a lot less than say a benign tumor somewhere else in the body because of the fact that the brain is limited in space by the skull so any tumor can have a mass effect where in his case was causing a blockage of his cerebrospinal fluid which is why he had the headaches and blackouts. The positive of this is that not only does it seem he hasnt had any more symptoms but he also is getting regular follow up. With this if the tumor does come back then there are options for him.
Beyond all of this remember that when an NFL team invests the kind of money they do in players they do their homework for the most part. Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen are professionals who will look into this with many specialists who should have access to all his records before making a decision if he is healthy enough to play.

MTK 04-18-2011 08:57 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
This thread was about as painful as a brain tumor for a while there... wow

53Fan 04-18-2011 10:27 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=Mattyk;793987]This thread was about as painful as a brain tumor for a while there... wow[/quote]

:laughing2 I'm going to the doctor. I think I may have got one just reading it.

SOUL-SKINS 04-18-2011 12:54 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=Mattyk;793987]This thread was about as painful as a brain tumor for a while there... wow[/quote]

Thank You.

NC_Skins 04-18-2011 01:15 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=Mattyk;793987]This thread was about as painful as a brain tumor for a while there... wow[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing. It's like seeing that guy playing with his cell phone right as he's about to step onto the street with oncoming traffic. You just want to yell out "WATCH OUT", but you know it wouldn't do any good.

juskins 04-18-2011 02:09 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=Lotus;793980]Everyone else here was giving you proper information. All you had to do was listen.[/quote]


But, the link to the article that pointed out Quinn's medical history was missing in the pages I read in this thread. I did not read this thread from page one to the last page, so please excuse my laziness. How many posters actually read threads from page one to the last page?

This is the reason why I questioned Quinn's priorities.

After reading the article and realizing that I have egg on my face, I apologized to those that were trying to get through to me. Obviously, the link set me straight.

So to get to the essence of the subject matter of this thread, Robert Quinn is not a bust. If he gets drafted at the pick that is being thrown out here by the experts, Robert deserves all the respect that can be bestowed on him.

That being said has nothing to do with Skins' selection at the ten spot in this draft. Quinn makes a good case for consideration by whatever team picks him. I just hope, if we can, trade down for more picks. I am not in favor of selecting Quinn at #10.

Finish building up the OLine.

NC_Skins 04-18-2011 02:38 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;793976]That'd be amazing[/quote]



Will the Skins ever find or draft a franchise QB?


[IMG]http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/magic_8ball_outlook_not_so_good.jpg[/IMG]


Foiled again.

Longtimefan 04-18-2011 04:34 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6380986&categoryid=2378529]This Day In Sports History: 1966 - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url]

SmootSmack 04-18-2011 04:36 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=Longtimefan;794069][url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6380986&categoryid=2378529]This Day In Sports History: 1966 - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Um....did Bill Russell have a tumor or something?

Longtimefan 04-18-2011 06:55 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;794071]Um....did Bill Russell have a tumor or something?[/quote]

I had no idea he was going to show up there. Did look strange to see the old uni's though. :)

Swarley 04-18-2011 07:44 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
edit

wrong thread...

53Fan 04-18-2011 09:16 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
This is getting weird.

Landry44 04-25-2011 07:22 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
I think Robert Quinn might be as good as Orakpo.

CultBrennan59 04-25-2011 09:53 PM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=Landry44;795320]I think Robert Quinn might be as good as Orakpo.[/quote]

Do you think he'd be better or worse than Orakpo in coverage?

Landry44 04-26-2011 01:42 AM

Re: Robert Quinn: Boom or Bust?
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;795388]Do you think he'd be better or worse than Orakpo in coverage?[/quote]I think he has the athletic ability but alright in coverage. If he plays in a 3-4 I expect him to struggle because he never really had to drop back at NC. But to answer you question I think he would be the same or worse. I don't see this kid ever becoming good cover guy but I do see him being just good enough to stay on the field.


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