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[quote=los panda;977172]and it won't matter who the giants lose to, ravens or eagles, as long as we beat dallas.

[B]1. redskins 9-7[/B]
2. cowboys 9-7
3. giants 9-7
4. eagles 6-10

correct me if i'm wrong[/quote]

We lose a head to head tie with the Cowboys because they have a better record vs. common opponents which supersedes conference record. In a three way, we win I believe though because then conference takes precedence but either way we have to beat Dallas to win the East regardless of what happens in Week 16.

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;977248]Me too, but its a lot harder to find a good mock draft now that is relevant to the Redskins because most of them are just round 1 because its so far out. That was the only part of the trade I don't like lol, it lessened my mock draft fun.[/QUOTE]

The ones with trades are great. Lol. Talk about worthless. However maybe they have one where we are trading down?

[QUOTE=Paintrain;977329]We lose a head to head tie with the Cowboys because they have a better record vs. common opponents which supersedes conference record. In a three way, we win I believe though because then conference takes precedence but either way we have to beat Dallas to win the East regardless of what happens in Week 16.[/QUOTE]

Never heard that. I thought even in a three way the criteria is the same? Im not seeing any logic in a three way reversing the criteria. Anybody know for sure? Bueller?
Edit: was reading the tiebreaker criteria - i believe it stays the same in a two or threeway tie, but what is really awesome is the number 12 tiebreaker. A coin toss. The odds of 1-11 being the same are probably like 1 in 100, 000,000 but can you imagine missing out on the playoffs because of a ****ing coin toss. If the coin lands on its side whats next? Rock paper scissors?

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[quote=punch it in;977333]Never heard that. I thought even in a three way the criteria is the same? Im not seeing any logic in a three way reversing the criteria. Anybody know for sure? Bueller?
Edit: was reading the tiebreaker criteria - i believe it stays the same in a two or threeway tie, but what is really awesome is the number 12 tiebreaker. A coin toss. The odds of 1-11 being the same are probably like 1 in 100, 000,000 but can you imagine missing out on the playoffs because of a ****ing coin toss. If the coin lands on its side whats next? Rock paper scissors?[/quote]

I don't recall exactly where I saw that (common opponents) was what gave the NFCE to Dallas, but this article states they win out in a three way tie at 9-7 and they beat us, [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000112193/article/redskins-cowboys-or-giants-who-will-win-nfc-east]Redskins, Cowboys or Giants: Who will win NFC East? - NFL.com[/url].

[QUOTE=Paintrain;977344]I don't recall exactly where I saw that (common opponents) was what gave the NFCE to Dallas, but this article states they win out in a three way tie at 9-7 and they beat us, [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000112193/article/redskins-cowboys-or-giants-who-will-win-nfc-east]Redskins, Cowboys or Giants: Who will win NFC East? - NFL.com[/url].[/QUOTE]

Hm, I always thought it was head to head then conference, then division.

Yupp, looks like we have to beat Dallas.

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Anyone suggesting we don't have quality wins is just being difficult. We've gone against and beaten some of the best defensive fronts and QBs in the league.

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Speaking off playoffs, it's been particularly satisfying seeing Laron Landry play for the shitty Jets while we've been on a roll. #waterunderthebridge

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;977322][url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nfceast&id=47104]NFL Giants, Skins could clinch spots this week - ESPN[/url]

Actually we can clinch a spot as a wildcard this weekend.

We win. Giants, Vikes, and Bears lose. Wildcard, but like I have said numerous times we win out to win the division.

I want to go to a home playoff game.[/quote]

Well, I like the idea of clinching a playoff spot, and that doesn't preclude us from winning it all the next week. It's only a little far-fetched to think we could clinch the playoff spot:
We beat the Eagles (hopefully likely)
Houston beats the Bears (probably)
Baltimore beats the Giants (again 50/50 shot depending on who actually decides to play)
Arizona beats the Vikings(oh, nevermind. AP may very well run for 200+ again.)

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I think the most dramatic NFC Wildcard weekend would be
NYG @ Skins (if that happened, it would mean during our winning streak we would have beaten Dallas and Philly twice during our win streak, and a win over the Giants would mean we beat them 2xs also. )

and

Seattle @ GB (Settle the replacement ref debacle once and for all, unless the reg refs make a bad call at the end too!)

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For some reason, I'm not buying Seattle. They're like Hyde when not playing at home.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;977198]We have zero "quality wins" on the road or at home against good opponents. We've had several tough hard fought wins that could have gone either way. Take off the b&g glasses. We are hot right now, but the seahawks are hotter.[/quote]

I didn't realize the NFL is currently judging the quality of victories like the BCS, but if we're being objective, the only statement win the Seahawks have is against the Cowboys. Every other victory they have against a winning team has been a squeaker(including a gift from the replacement officials). They've also lost to the Cardinals, Rams, Lions, and Dolphins. All teams that I would classify as inferior to them, and all on the road.

If they drop 30+ on the Niners, I'll buy into their recent hot streak.

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[quote=Mattyk;977246]I think you may be a little too picky in defining a quality win.

On the road in week one in New Orleans with a rookie QB... I don't remember anyone giving us much of a chance in that one. Thanksgiving in Dallas? Monday night against the Giants? I'd say those are some quality wins.

We hammered the Eagles to start this streak, so there's your big win over a bad team. Heck what about yesterday? On the road with a backup rookie QB and we put up 38... Not impressed?[/quote]

Of course I'm impressed. As I've said, we found a way to win a lot of close games. All of our games this year have come down to the last few minutes of the game. Even this Sunday vs the browns, we didn't pull away from them until late in the 4th quarter. The game wiuld never have been as close as it was if we were a dominant team. If the Seahawks had played the browns, it would have been 45-7 or something like that. That's just not something were capable of with our defense. Yeah, seattles laid some eggs earlier in the year, but so did we. Right now, were both hot, but Seattle is a much more complete team.

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Full details of playoff scenarios: [url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/12/multiple-paths-to-the-playoffs-for-the-redskins.html]Multiple paths to the playoffs for the Redskins - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;977398]Of course I'm impressed. As I've said, we found a way to win a lot of close games. All of our games this year have come down to the last few minutes of the game. Even this Sunday vs the browns, we didn't pull away from them until late in the 4th quarter. The game wiuld never have been as close as it was if we were a dominant team. If the Seahawks had played the browns, it would have been 45-7 or something like that. That's just not something were capable of with our defense. Yeah, seattles laid some eggs earlier in the year, but so did we. Right now, were both hot, but Seattle is a much more complete team.[/quote]

How can you say we didn't really dominate the Browns game? We basically gave the Browns a gift with Cousins' first interception. I mean literally. Trent Richardson rushed for paltry 28 yards. The final score of the Browns game really doesn't tell the full story. We dominated in time of possession and the Browns didn't manage to get 300 yds in total offense.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;977398]Of course I'm impressed. As I've said, we found a way to win a lot of close games. All of our games this year have come down to the last few minutes of the game. Even this Sunday vs the browns, we didn't pull away from them until late in the 4th quarter. The game wiuld never have been as close as it was if we were a dominant team. [B] If the Seahawks had played the browns, it would have been 45-7 or something like that. [/B] That's just not something were capable of with our defense. Yeah, seattles laid some eggs earlier in the year, but so did we. Right now, were both hot, but Seattle is a much more complete team.[/quote]

I know people are going to be enamored by the Seahawks because they put up fifty burgers on two teams back to back. But, they win mainly at home. They have lost six of their eight road games this year. I don't really see them as any more of a complete team as the Redskins at this point.

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[quote=Paintrain;977401]Full details of playoff scenarios: [url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/12/multiple-paths-to-the-playoffs-for-the-redskins.html]Multiple paths to the playoffs for the Redskins - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

I would much rather the Redskins just win out and be done with it, lol!

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[quote=skinsguy;977419]I would much rather the Redskins just win out and be done with it, lol![/quote]

I was wondering about what scenarios we'd win the division at 9-7. None of them seem particularly realistic to me. If we're a good team, we'll trash the eagles... i'm a little scared of the cowboys though. Yeah, we've beaten them once, but they generally dont choke until they get to the playoffs. Still, a (likely primetime) week 17 home game vs our most hated rival for the division title and a playoff home game.... i can't imagine a more exciting game.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;977443]I was wondering about what scenarios we'd win the division at 9-7. None of them seem particularly realistic to me. If we're a good team, we'll trash the eagles... i'm a little scared of the cowboys though. Yeah, we've beaten them once, but they generally dont choke until they get to the playoffs. Still, a (likely primetime) week 17 home game vs our most hated rival for the division title and a playoff home game.... i can't imagine a more exciting game.[/quote]

There are three scenarios in place. But the most stable is the Redskins winning the next two games and winning the NFC East at 10-6.

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[quote=Paintrain;977329]We lose a head to head tie with the Cowboys because they have a better record vs. common opponents which supersedes conference record. In a three way, we win I believe though because then conference takes precedence but either way we have to beat Dallas to win the East regardless of what happens in Week 16.[/quote]1. head-to-head
2. division record

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I hope that we lose our next two games so that we can get a better draft position.

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[quote=Lotus;977505]I hope that we lose our next two games so that we can get a better draft position.[/quote]maybe if the rams slip us a $20

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[quote=Lotus;977505]I hope that we lose our next two games so that we can get a better draft position.[/quote]

Don't lie, you want us to lose so Beck's back baby, but they aren't bringing back Beck so it's ok to want us to win;)

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[quote=los panda;977507]maybe if the rams slip us a $20[/quote]

Lol. Last year Dallas fans wanted us to "suck for ___", this year Rams fans want the same.


[quote=CRedskinsRule;977518]Don't lie, you want us to lose so Beck's back baby, but they aren't bringing back Beck so it's ok to want us to win;)[/quote]

You are a heretic unbeliever in the greatness of John Beck. When the clouds part and Beck appears from the sky to throw 25 TD's a game, you will be shamed!

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/colts-bengals-redskins-seahawks-giants-can-clinch-sunday/]Colts, Bengals, Redskins, Seahawks, Giants can clinch Sunday | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Rooting for the Giants, Bears and Vikings to get WAXED this week!!!

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[quote=Lotus;977525]You are a heretic unbeliever in the greatness of John Beck. [B]When the clouds part and Beck appears from the sky to throw 25 TD's a game, you will be shamed![/B][/quote]

No, I will have mixed up my meds in an epically bad fashion as this could only occur in some strangely pleasant but horrifying delusion.

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[quote=SkinzWin;977533][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/colts-bengals-redskins-seahawks-giants-can-clinch-sunday/]Colts, Bengals, Redskins, Seahawks, Giants can clinch Sunday | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Rooting for the Giants, Bears and Vikings to get WAXED this week!!![/quote]don't forget the cowboys
and the seahawks, for good measure

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yes. ^

They do win in that scenario i just meant that conference never supercedes common opponents no matter if its a two or three way tie on top of the division. The criteria always stays the same.

[QUOTE=hooskins;977346]Hm, I always thought it was head to head then conference, then division.[/QUOTE]

I always thought it was head to head, division, than conference. Common opponents is actually before conference. Still cant believe the twelfth tiebreaker is a ****ing coin toss. Lol. Couldnt it be safeties, or sacks, or first downs? Something that actually has to do with football?

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[quote=punch it in;977551]I always thought it was head to head, division, than conference. Common opponents is actually before conference. Still cant believe the twelfth tiebreaker is a ****ing coin toss. Lol. Couldnt it be safeties, or sacks, or first downs? Something that actually has to do with football?[/quote]

I thought the same thing as you.... the coin toss thing is pretty dumb, but i think the chances of it ever being used are astronomically slim. Id be interested to know how far down the tiebreaker list theyve ever had to go.

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;977564]I thought the same thing as you.... the coin toss thing is pretty dumb, but i think the chances of it ever being used are astronomically slim. Id be interested to know how far down the tiebreaker list theyve ever had to go.[/QUOTE]

Me too. Cant imagine very far past number four at all. Yeah to get to a coin toss has to be a one in 100,000,000 million. Lol