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[quote=mooby;1286293]I'm saying if he/we don't have a clue, enlighten us.

For me covid in relation to sports - guys will do anything to win - and I mean anything. [B]They would kill people if it enhanced their ability to play football.[/B] They will take years off their life leading with their head on every other play. But they won't get a shot? Even when you know without a doubt (it doesn't matter if the vaccine is effective or not) that not getting a vaccine will actively hurt the team and make it tougher for the next season?[/quote]

Huh? You don't think much of football players if you believe this even remotely true. This is a weird weird comment.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1286295]Huh? You don't think much of football players if you believe this even remotely true. This is a weird weird comment.[/quote]

It's an analogy, quit overreacting :rolleyes: . Alls I'm saying is guys will do annnnnnnnnything to gain a competitive advantage.

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[quote=mooby;1286296]It's an analogy, quit overreacting :rolleyes: . Alls I'm saying is guys will do annnnnnnnnything to gain a competitive advantage.[/quote]

Agreed. Sterois. HGH. Leading with the helmet. Cheap shots. The list goes on.

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[quote=mooby;1286293]I'm saying if he/we don't have a clue, enlighten us.

For me covid in relation to sports - guys will do anything to win - and I mean anything. They would kill people if it enhanced their ability to play football. They will take years off their life leading with their head on every other play. But they won't get a shot? Even when you know without a doubt (it doesn't matter if the vaccine is effective or not) that not getting a vaccine will actively hurt the team and make it tougher for the next season?[/quote]

Well that is kinda my point. It might not make a lot of sense to you or me, but that's ok. I don't have to understand [I]why[/I] DeAndre Hopkins doesn't want to take the vaccine. Not taking the vaccine isn't illegal. It is his choice for his reasons. He doesn't have to explain it to me or anyone else - that's America. Just like Zeke said. "You can't really tell someone what to do with their body". There are a myriad of reasons why people aren't getting the vaccine, and many of the reasons are valid. The picture is not as simple as dudes like SS would like to paint it - just some anti-vax / anti-mask strange bunch going against the grain to piss off the pro-vax / pro-mask crowd with the intent to hurt everyone else around them. That is where the "he doesn't have a clue" part comes in.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1286315]Well that is kinda my point. It might not make a lot of sense to you or me, but that's ok. I don't have to understand [I]why[/I] DeAndre Hopkins doesn't want to take the vaccine. Not taking the vaccine isn't illegal. It is his choice for his reasons. He doesn't have to explain it to me or anyone else - that's America. Just like Zeke said. "You can't really tell someone what to do with their body". There are a myriad of reasons why people aren't getting the vaccine, and many of the reasons are valid. The picture is not as simple as dudes like SS would like to paint it - just some anti-vax / anti-mask strange bunch going against the grain to piss off the pro-vax / pro-mask crowd with the intent to hurt everyone else around them. That is where the "he doesn't have a clue" part comes in.[/quote]

All I will say is this. For the people who have legit medical reasons not to take part - I respect that. For those who have taken their stance because their politicians are COVID-deniers, or they get their news from an entertainment company, or Facebook/social media, or they trust the opinion of anyone except a licensed and professional medical doctor - I do not respect that.

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I got tested positive for covid 2 days ago .. I was exposed on July 17 at a music event ( 20 plus people tested positive.. most of them were vaccinated) I did not get vaccine however my wife did ..problem is with this is I didn’t find out I was exposed until I had been around a lot of others .. I started feeling bad on the 9th day after exposure.. last night was rough ( horrible headache, super achy like flu.. however I have no fever , no loss of taste/smell, no breathing issues..)

my mom passed away in January of covid so I know the seriousness first hand .. this thing is far from over and if the country is to ever get back to normal the vax is probably the only way .. however what bothers me is the person I caught it from was vaccinated and had worse symptoms than me ( I’m not out of woods yet) but feeling better today ..

I think we all can agree that politics have a huge impact on the whole Mask / vax deal .. so what happens when a team is 100 % vaccinated and they have a outbreak ? Vaccinated people can still get covid and spread it .. I know this first hand .. so I don’t know the answer . I just know I’m not gonna feel good about large crowds anymore ..

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Chief .. i really dont care. (not to be rude, im sure it comes off that way)

I do wish we keep the politics out of the sports pages though .. bc it just ends up mirroring the political threads.

Sorry to hear Roc

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[quote=mooby;1286316]All I will say is this. For the people who have legit medical reasons not to take part - I respect that. For those who have taken their stance because their politicians are COVID-deniers, or they get their news from an entertainment company, or Facebook/social media, or they trust the opinion of anyone except a licensed and professional medical doctor - I do not respect that.[/quote]

And that's your right Mooby.

But currently, I'm not sure you can find many politicians that aren't suggesting that you get the vaccine. And news - there is no news anymore. That shit went out the door years ago. It's all opinions anymore. Doesn't matter what channel you are watching.

My take is - listen to your doctor, do your research, evaluate your own situation, and make a decision. Whatever that decision is, I respect that.

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[quote=rocnrik;1286319]I got tested positive for covid 2 days ago .. I was exposed on July 17 at a music event ( 20 plus people tested positive.. most of them were vaccinated) I did not get vaccine however my wife did ..problem is with this is I didn’t find out I was exposed until I had been around a lot of others .. I started feeling bad on the 9th day after exposure.. last night was rough ( horrible headache, super achy like flu.. however I have no fever , no loss of taste/smell, no breathing issues..)

my mom passed away in January of covid so I know the seriousness first hand .. this thing is far from over and if the country is to ever get back to normal the vax is probably the only way .. however what bothers me is the person I caught it from was vaccinated and had worse symptoms than me ( I’m not out of woods yet) but feeling better today ..

I think we all can agree that politics have a huge impact on the whole Mask / vax deal .. so what happens when a team is 100 % vaccinated and they have a outbreak ? Vaccinated people can still get covid and spread it .. I know this first hand .. so I don’t know the answer . I just know I’m not gonna feel good about large crowds anymore ..[/quote]

Sorry to hear that Rick, good luck and I hope you get past this soon. I think we're all in agreement that vaccinated people can still get COVID - but the risk of hospitalization and death is very minimal (but not nonexistent). Hoping for the best for you.

Chief - It seems the tide is turning and even conservative politicians are mostly embracing the message now that hospitals are reporting 95-98% of their COVID patients are unvaccinated. Better late than never I suppose. As far as "news" go - well I can only speak for myself and some of my fellow millenials when I say my friends in the same generation don't put any stock into watching or reading opinions from people who get paid to say it on a platform.

My trusted sources are the AP/Reuters, and everything else gets judged on a case-by-case basis. I'm not watching any news channels - if the tv's on it's Comedy Central or sports. And thanks for the respectful conversation - it's nice to be able to discuss these things without getting heated and I don't take it for granted.

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[quote=rocnrik;1286319]I got tested positive for covid 2 days ago .. I was exposed on July 17 at a music event ( 20 plus people tested positive.. most of them were vaccinated) I did not get vaccine however my wife did ..problem is with this is I didn’t find out I was exposed until I had been around a lot of others .. I started feeling bad on the 9th day after exposure.. last night was rough ( horrible headache, super achy like flu.. however I have no fever , no loss of taste/smell, no breathing issues..)

my mom passed away in January of covid so I know the seriousness first hand .. this thing is far from over and if the country is to ever get back to normal the vax is probably the only way .. however what bothers me is the person I caught it from was vaccinated and had worse symptoms than me ( I’m not out of woods yet) but feeling better today ..

I think we all can agree that politics have a huge impact on the whole Mask / vax deal .. so what happens when a team is 100 % vaccinated and they have a outbreak ? Vaccinated people can still get covid and spread it .. I know this first hand .. so I don’t know the answer . I just know I’m not gonna feel good about large crowds anymore ..[/quote]

Very sorry to hear all that rocnrik, especially losing your Mom. I hope you and your family pull through all this soon my friend.

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[quote=mooby;1286316]All I will say is this. For the people who have legit medical reasons not to take part - I respect that. For those who have taken their stance because their politicians are COVID-deniers, or they get their news from an entertainment company, or Facebook/social media, or they trust the opinion of anyone except a licensed and professional medical doctor - I do not respect that.[/quote]

These people aren’t exactly who you think they are…but if you get your info from anywhere but a demographic breakdown of the data u might not know that.

Also “I’m gonna shutdown the virus”…that promise hasn’t happened either. Trying to blame Facebook ain’t gonna cut it.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1286224]There was a point in time when a choice was just a choice - not too damn long ago either. Now it's entitlement? Guess we'll be calling it privelege before too long...

This is still America right?

Get the vaccine if you want it. Don't get the vaccine if you don't want it. Don't shame anyone else for making a decision opposite of yours. You're not "right". You just made a different choice.[/quote]

Thank you, Chief! I was on a basketball message board, and there's a thread (of course) related to the vaccine. I and another poster was ridiculed by three or four other posters because we've chosen not to get the vaccine.

I believed I mentioned this here previously, but I had Covid in March of 2020. I only endured rather mild symptoms and was back to normal in a matter of days.

I know this dude who is still dealing with issues from the vaccine weeks after it was administered. I also have this peculiar suspicion that the vaccine played a major role in the recent premature passing of a lady who I had the pleasure of knowing since the age of 4.

It's my right to not take it as it's the right for others to take it. No need for the ridiculing and ostracizing. Keep it movin'!

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31899635/washington-football-team-coach-ron-rivera-frustrated-low-vaccination-rate-players[/url]

Washington Football Team coach Ron Rivera 'beyond frustrated' by low vaccination rate of his players

On Tuesday, Washington placed offensive tackle Cornelius Lucas on the reserve/COVID-19 list.


And it begins

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[quote=MTK;1286049]Schneed10 coming into this thread like

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Oh! Schneed knocked it outta the park!

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286350]Thank you, Chief! I was on a basketball message board, and there's a thread (of course) related to the vaccine. I and another poster was ridiculed by three or four other posters because we've chosen not to get the vaccine.

I believed I mentioned this here previously, but I had Covid in March of 2020. I only endured rather mild symptoms and was back to normal in a matter of days.

I know this dude who is still dealing with issues from the vaccine weeks after it was administered. I also have this peculiar suspicion that the vaccine played a major role in the recent premature passing of a lady who I had the pleasure of knowing since the age of 4.

It's my right to not take it as it's the right for others to take it. No need for the ridiculing and ostracizing. Keep it movin'![/quote]

You do realize that you and 2 people you know isn't a good cross section for the spread and total effect of a worldwide contagion, right? I believe I had it back in Feb of 2020....and it was very mild. Everyone at my job did. Fast forward to valentines day 2021, and my gf got it...she was almost hospitalized. Very very scary to see. I stayed with her the whole time in close contact, and I never tested positive. Some people have no symptoms, some people die. I'm not throwing shade at anyone not getting the vaccine....but let's not act like this thing isn't fucking some people up really badly. Cause it is. And I'm not talking about the (probably) inflated numbers that are/were released after everything was politicized and monitized....but real world shit........this thing is real, and has hurt a lot of people of all ages and demographics.

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Considering the facts that it's an experimental injection that's NOT working, any mandate or forcing of anyone to get it is just immoral. Forcing kids to get it without considering reactions and long-term effects is child abuse.

I hope half the league stands up to the politics of mandated injections.

I see Ron's obvious personal concerns after surviving cancer, but that still doesn't give anyone the right to force someone to get it if they're not making the decision themselves.

Israel. who is always ahead of the curve compared to us and has a more open and honest media than we do...is reporting 84% of new "COVID" cases are in VACCAINATED people.

This experimental injection is turning out to be working more like an annual flu vaccine, that sometimes hits the mark and sometimes doesn't...and doesn't actually prevent anyone from still getting the flu...as compared to the advertised promises from politicians that it will all-out PREVENT you from getting "COVID", much like a Small Pox or Polio inoculation.

"COVID" is not on par with Small Pox or Polio in severity or behavior, it's no more severe than the regular flu with a 99.7% survival rate. Why all of the deaths then? Because it's new and NO ONE had any resistance built up against it. As time does on, we'll all become more naturally resistant to it, just like ANY OTHER VIRUS.

The CDC, the NFL, the media...this constant barrage to get in line and follow orders isn't about concern for health, it's about Government control.

Same with masks, they do nothing and in some people cause more harm than benefit, yet no one is allowed to deviate from the marching orders and make the right decision for their own health. It's getting to the point where the Government is allowing your job and livelihood to be taken away if you don't comply. It's pure evil and the lack if history taught in public schools over the past few decades (by design) has allowed the masses to just blindly follow without realizing the end game.

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I responded to several post back

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1286362]You do realize that you and 2 people you know isn't a good cross section for the spread and total effect of a worldwide contagion, right? I believe I had it back in Feb of 2020....and it was very mild. Everyone at my job did. Fast forward to valentines day 2021, and my gf got it...she was almost hospitalized. Very very scary to see. I stayed with her the whole time in close contact, and I never tested positive. Some people have no symptoms, some people die. I'm not throwing shade at anyone not getting the vaccine....but let's not act like this thing isn't fucking some people up really badly. Cause it is. And I'm not talking about the (probably) inflated numbers that are/were released after everything was politicized and monitized....but real world shit........this thing is real, and has hurt a lot of people of all ages and demographics.[/quote]

Obviously, you missed my point, which I'll touch on shortly. I mentioned those two people to shed a bit of light on the vaccine; not to deter or throw any shade. I'm also very aware of what Covid has done to people and their families (regardless of the exaggerated numbers).

My main point was I've noticed the vaccinated are the main people who are ridiculing and ostracizing the non-vaccinated. Quite frankly, we don't know the long-term effects of this trial/emergency vaccine. So, I feel myself and others, who do not want to take the jab, should have the right not to do so without worrying about losing our jobs and being badgered by the vaccinated.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1286368] "COVID" is not on par with Small Pox or Polio in severity or behavior, it's no more severe than the regular flu with a 99.7% survival rate. Why all of the deaths then? Because it's new and NO ONE had any resistance built up against it. As time does on, we'll all become more naturally resistant to it, just like ANY OTHER VIRUS.[/quote]

This here is what I've told several people.... It's a new virus and we'll all eventually build natural immunity over time.

[quote]Same with masks, they do nothing and in some people cause more harm than benefit, yet no one is allowed to deviate from the marching orders and make the right decision for their own health. It's getting to the point where the Government is allowing your job and livelihood to be taken away if you don't comply. It's pure evil and the lack if history taught in public schools over the past few decades (by design) has allowed the masses to just blindly follow without realizing the end game.
[/quote]

Thank you!

By the way, thanks for an overall, solid post.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286371]Obviously, you missed my point, which I'll touch on shortly. I mentioned those two people to shed a bit of light on the vaccine; not to deter or throw any shade. I'm also very aware of what Covid has done to people and their families.

My main point was I've noticed the vaccinated are the main people who are ridiculing and ostracizing the non-vaccinated. Quite frankly, we don't know the long-term effects of this trial/emergency vaccine. [B]So, I feel myself and others, who do not want to take the jab, should have the right not to do so without worrying about losing our jobs and being badgered by the vaccinated[/B].[/quote]

In bold this is the correct take. And I’ll say for those who make the same argument against the vaccine, I think it’s the most reasonable.

On the other side, the numbers do speak for themselves. Vaccines work. And when you see an overwhelming number of hospitalizations and death from the variant on those unvaccinated…I don’t feel anger towards those people but empathy. I don’t want to see fellow citizens die. Just want to end with this, IMO if you are over 50, the risk posed by covid is much greater than a vaccine

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... and this is why we didnt have a covid sports thread for so long.

Impossible to keep it about sports and it just turns into a general political pissing lecture.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1286368]

[B]The CDC, the NFL, the media...this constant barrage to get in line and follow orders isn't about concern for health, it's about Government control.[/B]

[B]Same with masks, they do nothing and in some people cause more harm than benefit, [/B]yet no one is allowed to deviate from the marching orders and make the right decision for their own health. It's getting to the point where the Government is allowing your job and livelihood to be taken away if you don't comply. It's pure evil and the lack if history taught in public schools over the past few decades (by design) has allowed the masses to just blindly follow without realizing the end game.[/quote]

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That's because the virus is a political issue. Thank your Government.

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If you want to be immature like that in what was an intelligent conversation, here's the rebuttal:



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[quote=Monkeydad;1286368]
[B]Same with masks, they do nothing and in some people cause more harm than benefit,[/B] [/quote]

You lost your shit with that line.
Go rinse and repeat that research you get from facebook.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286373]This here is what I've told several people.... It's a new virus and we'll all eventually build natural immunity over time.



Thank you!

By the way, thanks for an overall, solid post.[/quote]

Covid is a Coronavirus and Coronaviruses aren't new. They have been studied for quite awhile now which is the reason a vaccine was able to be created so quickly. Because we understand the basics of Coronaviruses once the Covid genome was sequenced creating a vaccine wasn't very difficult.

Also the MRNA delivery mechanism for the vaccine isn't new, its been around 25-30 years. In fact MRNA is used in a lot of cancer treatments.

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Listening to Ron go off about the team low vaccination rates is not good folks. We are sitting at what 60%?

We should be really worried about the team being impacted by this…I think it’s very possible we could forfeit a game.

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[quote=SunnySide;1286378]... and this is why we didnt have a covid sports thread for so long.

Impossible to keep it about sports and it just turns into a general political pissing lecture.[/quote]

At least it’s better than Extreme….someone actually said we should cut Chase because he hasn’t gotten vaccinated.

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[quote=Chico23231;1286386]Listening to Ron go off about the team low vaccination rates is not good folks. We are sitting at what 60%?

We should be really worried about the team being impacted by this…I think it’s very possible we could forfeit a game.[/quote]

I really think RR thought the team would do it to help protect him and everyone on the team. IMO he's disappointed that guys aren't being team players about something so simple and easy.

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[quote=irish;1286385]Covid is a Coronavirus and Coronaviruses aren't new. They have been studied for quite awhile now which is the reason a vaccine was able to be created so quickly. Because we understand the basics of Coronaviruses once the Covid genome was sequenced creating a vaccine wasn't very difficult.[/quote]

This is a great point.

I also remember folks saying the MRNA style of vaccine was new…unpredictable…and would change DNA…etc. But MRNA research and development been going on for 15-20 years and have come a long way when it comes to vaccinations. We aren’t guinea pigs with MRNA vacs.

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[quote=Chico23231;1286389]This is a great point.

I also remember folks saying the MRNA style of vaccine was new…unpredictable…and would change DNA…etc. But MRNA research and development been going on for 15-20 years and have come a long way when it comes to vaccinations. We aren’t guinea pigs with MRNA vacs.[/quote]

You are correct, its not new and doesn't change one's DNA.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286371]
My main point was I've noticed the vaccinated are the main people who are ridiculing and ostracizing the non-vaccinated. Quite frankly, we don't know the long-term effects of this trial/emergency vaccine. So, I feel myself and others, who do not want to take the jab, should have the right not to do so without worrying about losing our jobs and being badgered by the vaccinated.[/quote]

I would have to disagree. I was vaccinated, though i have a natural immunity from when i had it last year. I know this because i shared close contact with my girlfriend for her entire bout with it, and I didnt get it. That being said...Where I work, just like everywhere else, it has become highly politicized. dems get it, and reps dont. Thats just the way its shaken out. I dont take sides. I respect peoples decision for not getting it. I really do. But at the same time, all the people that have decided against, sit in the same room and make sure to tell me, pretty much daily, that Im going to get cancer, or have an enlarged heart, or grow a third eye, and second head and that im kind of garunteed to die from this toxic vaccine that i let the government put in my body. all the while i respect their decision and dont retort. So, it goes both ways....
Yes...there are a lot of people who got the vaccine who are acting shitty to people that havent. but if you think that the unvaccinated arent casting stones calling people like me sheep every day...then you just have your head in the fucking sand.
and this isnt political in nature....im pretty middle of the road, and it seems to me both sides have been pretty shitty during this whole thing.
a sad fact, though, is that the less people there are that are vaccinated, the longer this shit show continues. natural immunity or not. the masks and mandates will continue...im sure of it.

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[quote=irish;1286385]Covid is a Coronavirus and Coronaviruses aren't new. They have been studied for quite awhile now which is the reason a vaccine was able to be created so quickly. Because we understand the basics of Coronaviruses once the Covid genome was sequenced creating a vaccine wasn't very difficult.

Also the MRNA delivery mechanism for the vaccine isn't new, its been around 25-30 years. In fact MRNA is used in a lot of cancer treatments.[/quote]

Covid-19 is a different strain (or stronger version) of " original" Coronavirus, which IMO was man made, but I digress.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1286393]I would have to disagree. I was vaccinated, though i have a natural immunity from when i had it last year. I know this because i shared close contact with my girlfriend for her entire bout with it, and I didnt get it. That being said...Where I work, just like everywhere else, it has become highly politicized. dems get it, and reps dont. Thats just the way its shaken out. I dont take sides. I respect peoples decision for not getting it. I really do. But at the same time, all the people that have decided against, sit in the same room and make sure to tell me, pretty much daily, that Im going to get cancer, or have an enlarged heart, or grow a third eye, and second head and that im kind of garunteed to die from this toxic vaccine that i let the government put in my body. all the while i respect their decision and dont retort. So, it goes both ways....
Yes...there are a lot of people who got the vaccine who are acting shitty to people that havent. but if you think that the unvaccinated arent casting stones calling people like me sheep every day...then you just have your head in the fucking sand.
and this isnt political in nature....im pretty middle of the road, and it seems to me both sides have been pretty shitty during this whole thing.
a sad fact, though, is that the less people there are that are vaccinated, the longer this shit show continues. natural immunity or not. the masks and mandates will continue...im sure of it.[/quote]

First of all, watch your fucking tone with me ("then you just have your head in the fucking sand"). Come at me with the same respect as I had with you, dude. I can assure you my head isn't in the sand. I'll touch on that one shortly.

Secondly, I don't give two turds about politics. I'm a man; not some political colloquialism. I've also yet to act shitty to anyone who has been vaccinated. Quite a few people have told me they've been vaccinated. Most times, I don't say anything and move on to another topic. The only people I've said anything to was my best friend and another good friend of mine. I merely said to both, "I'm not gonna take, but to each his or her own," and that was the gist of it.

As far as both sides--the vaccinated vs. the non-vaccinated--going back and forth with one another; I'm sure there's attacks from both sides. Heck, I know as I've been ridiculed on another message board per the vaccinated. I'm sure the vaccinated has received similar ridicule from the non-vaccinated. Frankly, I have yet to personally see it. Not in person nor on the handful of sites which I inhabit. On the other hand, I have witnessed in person (as I have an aunt who was somewhat badgering me about getting vaccinated) and more times than I can count from the boards I've ventured upon from the vaccinated going ape shit on the non-vaccinated.

I bet more times than not the non-vaccinated only get into with the vaccinated is when the latter starts imposing their will and agenda on the former. Again, I'm only going by what I've noticed on the message boards in which I've inhabited. I have an idea, for the most part, it's no different for lots of others in person.

I'm sorry to hear your girlfriend had to endure the severity of Covid, and I hope she's doing much better at this juncture. My gripe is if people wanna take the jab, then go right ahead. Just don't impose their agenda on to others. I may not be so nice, whether it's in person or online, when the next person chastises me for not wanting to be administered the jab.

People have every right to say what does or doesn't go into their bodies (go check out what's going over in Israel). If people deem getting the vaccine or not is best for them, then let 'em be.

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[quote=irish;1286388]I really think RR thought the team would do it to help protect him and everyone on the team. IMO he's disappointed that guys aren't being team players about something so simple and easy.[/quote]

Why is it so "simple and easy?" It's their bodies, and it's their right if they choose to be reluctant, as well as it's the right for people who choose to get vaccinated.

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Anyways ....

Washington Nationals All-Star shortstop Trea Turner has tested positive for COVID-19, leading him to exit in the first inning of the team's eventual 6-4 win against the Phillies in Philadelphia on Tuesday night.

Turner was pulled after scoring on Josh Bell's home run in the top of the first. Gerardo Parra replaced him in the lineup.

"I found out right after he scored,'' manager Dave Martinez said. "I had to pull him right out of the game. He's got to get isolated right away. Now, he'll get tested and from there we'll see what happens.''

The timeline for Turner's positive result suggests his test was taken Monday.

[url]https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31900348/trea-turner-leaves-washington-nationals-game-testing-positive-covid-19[/url]

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[quote=jamf;1286384]You lost your shit with that line.
Go rinse and repeat that research you get from facebook.[/quote]

Yeah, I wouldn't say masks do nothing. Masks have been shown to be effective I think. They won't protect you from contracting the virus, but apparently do offer some prevention from spreading the virus if you have it.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1286382]That's because the virus is a political issue. Thank your Government.[/quote]


It was inevitable I guess. This virus has polarized the entire planet, and the politics of it (thanks mostly to our fearless leaders) has found its way into every entity, including our beloved sports. The divisiveness in this country is extraordinary, and not just due to the virus.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1286409]It was inevitable I guess. This virus has polarized the entire planet, and the politics of it (thanks mostly to our fearless leaders) has found its way into every entity, including our beloved sports. The divisiveness in this country is extraordinary, and not just due to the virus.[/quote]

I don’t think anyone can disagree… even the Va health dept lady who called me today to check on me and get info about my recent covid positive test had to say politics is the main hurdle in the war against this ..I am feeling a little better today and I believe at some point down the road I will get vaccinated.. now I’ve got immunity for a while .. this new delta strain is highly contagious.. it’s my fault I caught it .. peace

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286406]Why is it so "simple and easy?" It's their bodies, and it's their right if they choose to be reluctant, as well as it's the right for people who choose to get vaccinated.[/quote]

I understand that there are NFL players who probably have health conditions that may be affected by the vaccine (i.e. Sweat with his heart issue). But it is a bit hard for me to take serious someone who just doesn't want to get vaccinated without any apparent reason, when they are also making a business decision to play in a sport that has been shown to carry a lot of health risks in the long term.

Also, NFL players always make decisions on their health with a business aspect in mind (i.e. treatment for injury, etc., etc.). So this is not something new for them; however, what is different is that their decision vastly affects others.