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los panda 10-30-2012 06:42 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
sanchez is like jason campbell

natesurfn 10-30-2012 06:47 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;959055]I will say that RG3 has certainly exceeded my expectations. I said this before the draft, I thought that Luck was far and away the best QB in the draft (I still think he's the best) and the gap between Tannehill and RG3 was not very large. I've been impressed with RT but RG3 is something truly special[/quote]

I still think that RG3 has the higher ceiling, that being said he may need more players around him than Luck. I'm glad that we have Griff over Luck though because IMO he is just as smart but more accurate and athletic. Luck = the new Peyton though, but historically the Skins have never been a strict Peyton type team so RG3 will fit just fine.

natesurfn 10-30-2012 06:49 PM

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[quote=los panda;959062]sanchez is like jason campbell[/quote]

Why do we hate Campbell so much?? Sure he did nothing for us, but short of the top 5 elite qb's not one would have back then. Maybe I just like Campbell as a person too much...you could be right.

SolidSnake84 10-30-2012 07:03 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=natesurfn;959064]Why do we hate Campbell so much?? Sure he did nothing for us, but short of the top 5 elite qb's not one would have back then. Maybe I just like Campbell as a person too much...you could be right.[/quote]

It's not soo much that we hate Jason Campbell, it's just that it should have been clear from nearly day 1 that he was not starter material, and was not the long term answer for this team. It took getting him injured for the team to make the playoffs in 2007. He was a great person, so they say, that is why he left his fiancee standing at the alter, what a great guy.

If JC was so good and the skins were so wrong about him, you'd think a new team would be rushing out to get him, right? Wrong. Replaced in Oakland by a fat, out of shape, then ex-NFL QB named Carson somebody who was sitting on his couch never figuring the phone might ring. After that he is accepting a backup job on a 1 year veteran minimum salary for the bears. He probably won't even be in the NFL next season. What a champ. But he was super smart and he fought his guts out here, right?

The Goat 10-30-2012 07:05 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=RedskinRat;959009]People are looking at just the W/L, not how competitive the Skins have been this year. We've been out of just one game in eight so far. That's a huge step up even if it's not currently reflected in W/L, which it will be.[/quote]

We were in a ton of games last year, and the year before too.

los panda 10-30-2012 07:08 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;959067]It's not soo much that we hate Jason Campbell, it's just that it should have been clear from nearly day 1 that he was not starter material, and was not the long term answer for this team. It took getting him injured for the team to make the playoffs in 2007. He was a great person, so they say, that is why he left his fiancee standing at the alter, what a great guy.

If JC was so good and the skins were so wrong about him, you'd think a new team would be rushing out to get him, right? Wrong. Replaced in Oakland by a fat, out of shape, then ex-NFL QB named Carson somebody who was sitting on his couch never figuring the phone might ring. After that he is accepting a backup job on a 1 year veteran minimum salary for the bears. He probably won't even be in the NFL next season. What a champ. But he was super smart and he fought his guts out here, right?[/quote]context

The Goat 10-30-2012 07:11 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;959030]Anyhow, I will say this while I don't think it'd be a good idea to fire Mike Shanahan (though like I've said before he's not necessarily the guy I would have hired). I think it'd be an even bigger mistake to get rid of Bruce Allen. So if they insist (though I know they don't) on making some huge move, I sure hope they hold on to Bruce Allen[/quote]

Agree 100%. I'll have a scotch tonight...

natesurfn 10-30-2012 07:13 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;959067]It's not soo much that we hate Jason Campbell, it's just that it should have been clear from nearly day 1 that he was not starter material, and was not the long term answer for this team. It took getting him injured for the team to make the playoffs in 2007. He was a great person, so they say, that is why he left his fiancee standing at the alter, what a great guy.

If JC was so good and the skins were so wrong about him, you'd think a new team would be rushing out to get him, right? Wrong. Replaced in Oakland by a fat, out of shape, then ex-NFL QB named Carson somebody who was sitting on his couch never figuring the phone might ring. After that he is accepting a backup job on a 1 year veteran minimum salary for the bears. He probably won't even be in the NFL next season. What a champ. But he was super smart and he fought his guts out here, right?[/quote]

Didn't know about the whole wedding thing. JC was having a solid year in Oakland before he broke his clavicle, then with him out they picked up Palmer because coach had worked with him before. My excuses for JC have run thin considering how many rookies are suceeding in their first year with new OC's so I guess I'll just say I'm glad we now have the qb that we do.

SmootSmack 10-30-2012 07:18 PM

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[quote=The Goat;959071]Agree 100%. I'll have a scotch tonight...[/quote]

For Bruce Allen...have a Coors Light

los panda 10-30-2012 07:19 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;959074]For Bruce Allen...have a Coors Light[/quote]love me some beerwater

The Goat 10-30-2012 07:22 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=natesurfn;959045]Monday morning I voted Shanahan should be fired, turns out it was all emotion. Overall I think he has brought in some good youth and turned over the roster nicely. RG3 is amazing although Shanahan can't get full credit for that, he would have taken Griff or Luck, either would have been good but it was a preety much can't miss situation.

McNabb was a mistake because, although most will disagree with me, [B]I think JC had more to offer and was always just in a bad situation.[/B] Don't get me wrong I'm happy that we have the QB we do now, but man my life is going to be cut short 20 years just from being a Skins fan. I say next year we need to be 9-7 minimum or Shanahan is fired.[/quote]

I've decided the same, and there's a bit of irony. Mike stuck his nose up at JC and sniffed out three inferior QBs in McNabb, Rex and Beck instead.

The Goat 10-30-2012 07:26 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;959074]For Bruce Allen...have a Coors Light[/quote]

I'm not a hick or a republican.

whistler 10-30-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=The Goat;959069]We were in a ton of games last year, and the year before too.[/quote]

All NFL teams are in a ton of games every year. The worst teams can be within 3-7 points every week and loose them all very competitive but pro teams by definition are and should be competitve. It's the winning organizations that win the 3-7 point games every week that is the difference.
Why hasn't anyone started a string about the skins not having a hurry up offense? When ever there are critical times in a game the skins are in huddle as if there is no clock. Do the Shananhans need that much control of a game that they are not playing in? Even in 2 minute situations, the offense is in huddles? Is that good coaching?

DynamiteRave 10-30-2012 07:37 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=The Goat;959079]I'm not a hick or a republican.[/quote]

I'm neither but I love Coors Light. It's sure better than Miller light. Might as well just drink a bottle of water.

I also like Milwaukee's Best, but for some reason, now and then I like a cheap ass beer.

The Goat 10-30-2012 07:53 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=whistler;959083]All NFL teams are in a ton of games every year. The worst teams can be within 3-7 points every week and loose them all very competitive but pro teams by definition are and should be competitve. It's the winning organizations that win the 3-7 point games every week that is the difference.
Why hasn't anyone started a string about the skins not having a hurry up offense? When ever there are critical times in a game the skins are in huddle as if there is no clock. Do the Shananhans need that much control of a game that they are not playing in? Even in 2 minute situations, the offense is in huddles? Is that good coaching?[/quote]

Thanks for finishing my thoughts...I got lazy :)


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