[QUOTE=Mattyk;963055]Bowen is one of our more solid starters, really not sure why he's being called out.[/QUOTE]

He is but being a solid starter on OUR d does not say much.

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Well he was solid last year too when our D was #13 so...

Last years D was only good because teams went conservative and did not try to score on us. Remember?

Giants getting crushed. A damn 500 record would have us rite there. Uggghh.

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call me crazy but with GMen struggling today and the toilet bowl approaching us in a couple hours eagles v cowboys ... IF SOMEHOW WE CAN RATTLE OFF 2 WINS OFF BYE WEEK .. we'd be right in thick of it .. think back to pre-NY game we thought a lot different about this team whose to say we can't think different again in 2 weeks

[QUOTE=DCtoAZ;963085]call me crazy but with GMen struggling today and the toilet bowl approaching us in a couple hours eagles v cowboys ... IF SOMEHOW WE CAN RATTLE OFF 2 WINS OFF BYE WEEK .. we'd be right in thick of it .. think back to pre-NY game we thought a lot different about this team whose to say we can't think different again in 2 weeks[/QUOTE]

Im trying so hard not to go there because im so sick of being dissapointed. But yes - truth is we are still in division hunt.

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[quote=DCtoAZ;963085]call me crazy but with GMen struggling today and the toilet bowl approaching us in a couple hours eagles v cowboys ... IF SOMEHOW WE CAN RATTLE OFF 2 WINS OFF BYE WEEK .. we'd be right in thick of it .. think back to pre-NY game we thought a lot different about this team whose to say we can't think different again in 2 weeks[/quote]

Yes indeed! The Redskins have a chance to still win the division. The Giants have a very rough schedule ahead and it's not at all farfetched to see them finishing 7-9 or 8-8. After they lose to the Bengals, they have to face the Packers, Falcons, Redskins, Ravens, Eagles, and Saints. The Giants could very well end up losing all of those games and concluding their season at 6-10.

The Redskins meanwhile could turn their season around and end up winning 5 or 6 more games and finishing 10-6 or 9-7 and take the NFC East. We still have a very great chance to come out on top once this is all said and done.

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[quote=Bucket;962998]I love wherr people get this kind of intel. Its like they are in the locker room.


Once upon a time......Shanahan was asked to coach and take over a glorious franchise in which he was offered all of king midus gold just to turn it around. In which he did, and all the people rejoiced right before they all died of small pocs. Them Shanahan had tea with his leader and they spoke of the glory days.

You know what? It is fun making up stories[/quote]

I have finally come to the conclusion...you have absolutely nothing to offer. Didn't want to waste the time or energy adding you to my ignore list but your posts are so annoying and lacking in reason/intelligence I'll make the trip into CP land. Congratulations.

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[quote=The Goat;963091]I have finally come to the conclusion...you have absolutely nothing to offer. Didn't want to waste the time or energy adding you to my ignore list but your posts are so annoying and lacking in reason/intelligence I'll make the trip into CP land. Congratulations.[/quote]

This post, coming from you, literally made me laugh out loud

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Bowen's been just fine

The Goat threatening to ignore someone is hysterical. Next Firstdown will spellcheck someone

We have a shot, but it's been that way nearly every year and we didn't make the moves we made to trip into success and simply have a shot

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;963092]This post, coming from you, literally made me laugh out loud[/quote]

:laughing2

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Well, I don't know if Shanahan wanted anything gift wrapped him for this week...but the Bengals just did that for him anyway. Two game margin in the division.

[QUOTE=The Goat;963091]I have finally come to the conclusion...you have absolutely nothing to offer. Didn't want to waste the time or energy adding you to my ignore list but your posts are so annoying and lacking in reason/intelligence I'll make the trip into CP land. Congratulations.[/QUOTE]

Lol

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;963092]This post, coming from you, literally made me laugh out loud[/QUOTE]

You have to agree Goat has never posted anything like that -
Lol

[QUOTE=Bucket;962998]I love wherr people get this kind of intel. Its like they are in the locker room.


Once upon a time......Shanahan was asked to coach and take over a glorious franchise in which he was offered all of king midus gold just to turn it around. In which he did, and all the people rejoiced right before they all died of small pocs. Them Shanahan had tea with his leader and they spoke of the glory days.

You know what? It is fun making up stories[/QUOTE]

Was this induced by a white russian?

Oh, I don't know. Complaining about WR's lack of speed and then urging us to re-sign Gaffney is pretty much fairy tale material.

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[quote=punch it in;963148]Was this induced by a white russian?[/quote]

Lime a Rita lol.

Sorry man, I'm just as upset about our 3-6 then anyone else. I just prefer to give Shanahan his 5 years and i'm one of the few.

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[quote=Bucket;963167]Lime a Rita lol.

Sorry man, I'm just as upset about our 3-6 then anyone else. I just prefer to give Shanahan his 5 years and i'm one of the few.[/quote]

I am more upset about going 14-27 the past two years and a half. Even Zorn did better than that.

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 

[quote=The Goat;963091]I have finally come to the conclusion...you have absolutely nothing to offer. Didn't want to waste the time or energy adding you to my ignore list but your posts are so annoying and lacking in reason/intelligence I'll make the trip into CP land. Congratulations.[/quote]

Well all us cant post the same negative nonsense over and over... I could just post what i read from the media. You should add me to your ignore list because if i wasn't so lazy on a forum board. I would of done it a long time ago.

Oh and another informative post from punch it in "lol".. Guy can really break it down

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;963092]This post, coming from you, literally made me laugh out loud[/quote]

In the great informative words of Punch it in.. "lol"...

Did anyone catch fox Sunday pregame? Heard Jimmy and Howie were saying Mike and co. Are holding griff back.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;963184]Did anyone catch fox Sunday pregame? Heard Jimmy and Howie were saying Mike and co. Are holding griff back.[/quote]


Apparently you aren't keeping up with this thread.

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[quote=NC_Skins;963187]Apparently you aren't keeping up with this thread.[/quote]

Yeah.. Griffin would of already broken every record in the NFL, and thrown for 20 touchdowns if it wasn't for Shanahan

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[quote=donofriose;963177]I am more upset about going 14-27 the past two years and a half. Even Zorn did better than that.[/quote]

You're right.. Zorn did do better, but it was a total different situation then it is now.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;963092]This post, coming from you, literally made me laugh out loud[/quote]

Hey at least I follow through man...you said months ago I was going on your list! ;)

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Not saying anything here to defend Shanahan, but there are several other teams this year severely under-performing because their coaches have no business being in their position. San Diego, KC, Buffalo, and I even put Oakland in there. Mike is still the "worst" because he's more responsible for his team's failure than any of those HCs, and by a long shot. But comparing apples to apples i.e. if Mike was just another bad coach and had nothing to do w/ personnel, at least he'd have some company. Right now he's alone as the biggest failure because that's the way he likes it...it's all about him.

We have something none of those teams do, and it's not just RG3 but what he represents. Among all the teams that will/should can their coaching staff at season's end we are absolutely the best destination for all potential HCs. Danny/BA are a few smart decisions away from getting us back on the right track, and that's something I can drink to :)

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This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, but not about the positives or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...

[YT]MT0-OL_71yU[/YT]

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Sorry no one really wants to talk much about free agency or the draft right now. Don't take it personally

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;963203]This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, but not about the positives or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...

[YT]MT0-OL_71yU[/YT][/QUOTE]

It's because skins fans are just tired of the SOS, losing. So no one really wants to look ahead right now, it's all about the present and why This team hasn't improved over 3 years.

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[quote=SmootSmack;963204]Sorry no one really wants to talk much about free agency or the draft right now. Don't take it personally[/quote]

You would think when fans start saying "Fire Shanahan" or "We're done" or "Start looking towards next year" that they would do what I do and literally look ahead to the future by looking at free agency or draft, but apparently not....yet...

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In the current digital issue of [B][I]Pro Football Weekly[/I][/B], they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

I draw several conclusions from this story. The first is that RGIII notwitstanding, Shanahan is NOT a shrewd evaluator of football talent. Secondly, the Redskins could probably be 3-6 with a combination of Cousins & Grossman at QB; Shanahan has NOT wisely selected the players (and coaches) that are attempting to complement RGIII's skills, thus the on-field results are less than stellar even with Griffin running the offense. Third, I would say that even if there is but a shred of truth to the story, Shanahan has vastly underrated the Redskins' lack of talent and thus erred strategically in trading away such valuable draft picks. Finally, I would just say that if things are as bad as they seem right now, RGIII will be past his prime by the time the Shanaclan get things figured out -- if they ever do!

This seems like a simple case of the game passing-by a once outstanding football coach.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;963214]You would think when fans start saying "Fire Shanahan" or "We're done" or "Start looking towards next year" that they would do what I do and literally look ahead to the future by looking at free agency or draft, but apparently not....yet...[/quote]

Not that I am defending the people that are posting here (or what is being posted here), but free agency/draft discussions are pointless and too early at this point.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;963203]This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, [B]but not about the positives[/B] or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...
[/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. Good one man.

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[quote=Mattyk;962835]When I watched the game last night I wasn't wondering why the Skins aren't 6-3 too.

Don't let me ruin the fun, maybe I'm the crazy one.[/quote]

What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes

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[quote=rbanerjee23;963223]What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes[/quote]

So you had a random thought from around the NFL...and decided to ignore that we have a weekly around the NFL thread and post it there?

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[quote=rbanerjee23;963223]What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes[/quote]

I wasn't talking to you directly, it was just a general thought more than anything.

Don't take it so personal.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;963184]Did anyone catch fox Sunday pregame? Heard Jimmy and Howie were saying Mike and co. Are holding griff back.[/quote]

hmmmmm, I wonder if they fit into the category of announcers/analysts that don't know what they are talking about, or ones that do. I guess it depends on the situation. A layperson could see the coaching on our team this year is holding the franchise back, not just RG3.

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[quote=redskin29633;963217]In the current digital issue of [B][I]Pro Football Weekly[/I][/B], they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

I draw several conclusions from this story. The first is that RGIII notwitstanding, Shanahan is NOT a shrewd evaluator of football talent. Secondly, the Redskins could probably be 3-6 with a combination of Cousins & Grossman at QB; Shanahan has NOT wisely selected the players (and coaches) that are attempting to complement RGIII's skills, thus the on-field results are less than stellar even with Griffin running the offense. Third, I would say that even if there is but a shred of truth to the story, Shanahan has vastly underrated the Redskins' lack of talent and thus erred strategically in trading away such valuable draft picks. Finally, I would just say that if things are as bad as they seem right now, RGIII will be past his prime by the time the Shanaclan get things figured out -- if they ever do!

[B][I]This seems like a simple case of the game passing-by a once outstanding football coach.[/I][/B][/quote]

One playoff win in 14 years. Doesn't take a generic website sports magazine to figure this one out. Its just the vast majority of fans on this site are still in the denial phase.

Here is a link to fellow redskins fans, in the spirit of recovery.

[url=http://www.ehow.com/list_7152160_phases-grieving.html]Phases of Grieving | eHow.com[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;963225]So you had a random thought from around the NFL...and decided to ignore that we have a weekly around the NFL thread and post it there?[/quote]

I hope you find it in your heart to forgive me -- should I start a forgive me thread and post there?

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[quote=Mattyk;963241]I wasn't talking to you directly, it was just a general thought more than anything.

Don't take it so personal.[/quote]

You're right -- that was a little too grouchy. I was just surprised at the response it got.