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SFREDSKIN 11-13-2012 09:37 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=53Fan;963785]Amen brother. Someone worthy of giving a chance to that's hungry for the opportunity. A name coach doesn't mean anything anymore. One of our own posters...SFredskin said we should have hired Harbaugh and he was right on the money. Check around and get some opinions FO. For Gods sake you're being paid pretty well to know football.[/quote]

Greg Roman, he coached Luck at Stanford and would be a perfect fit for RGIII. Sick of all retread coaches, skins need to find the next Gibbs, when Gibbs was hired everyone asked who the hell is he? People are enamored with names, my gut feeling tells me Roman will be damn good coach.

Bucket 11-13-2012 09:41 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
Jim Zorn. He has way more to prove now!

NC_Skins 11-13-2012 09:41 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;963787]Greg Roman, he coached Luck at Stanford and would be a perfect fit for RGIII. Sick of all retread coaches, skins need to find the next Gibbs, when Gibbs was hired everyone asked who the hell is he? People are enamored with names, my gut feeling tells me Roman will be damn good coach.[/quote]

College coaches aren't it. It's a different game. Harbaugh has done well because 1) His team was stacked with talent 2) He played in the NFL and knows the game.


I would go with a hungry assistant in the NFL looking to make a name for himself.

punch it in 11-13-2012 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;963781]I think NC Skins is starting to lean against Shanny.. Am I right? lol[/QUOTE]

I was excited about you but NC could be our biggest signing yet. Lol.
All kidding aside-
I cannot worry about next year anymore - i wont. It is Tuesday and there is a game Sunday and everybody that coaches or plays for the Redskins is damn well aware of that. Im not expecting perfection from anybody Sunday but im expecting effort and discipline. Im expecting the defense to get after Nick Foles. This is a playoff game for us. I would like to think that a bunch of well paid grown men will put their differences aside and go out and win a football game. I think that will make the players - coaches - and fanbase happy for one friggin week.

punch it in 11-13-2012 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=The Owner;963768]within 2 years...

Dallas Sean Payton
New York Bill Cowher
Philadelphia Kyle Shanahan
Washington Jon Gruden[/QUOTE]

Is Coughlin going somewhere?

SFREDSKIN 11-13-2012 09:44 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;963789]College coaches aren't it. It's a different game. Harbaugh has done well because 1) His team was stacked with talent 2) He played in the NFL and knows the game.


I would go with a hungry assistant in the NFL looking to make a name for himself.[/quote]

Who the hell do you think the Offensive Co-ordination for the 49ers is? Greg Roman!

[url=http://www.49ers.com/team/coaches/greg-roman/d5446825-2178-4237-ab3d-f3fca703dfd2]San Francisco 49ers: Greg Roman[/url]

Bucket 11-13-2012 09:45 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
In all honesty, I would be worried if the organization wasnt talking about a new DC.

NC_Skins 11-13-2012 09:47 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;963792]Who the hell do you think the Offensive Co-ordination for the 49ers is? Greg Roman![/quote]

Sorry, wasn't talking about him specifically. Just meant in general.

SFREDSKIN 11-13-2012 09:50 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;963794]Sorry, wasn't talking about him specifically. Just meant in general.[/quote]

Read his bio if you have doubts. From what I have seen at Stanford and 49ers he is pretty creative.

Greg Roman was a finalist for the Stanford job and also drew attention for the open jobs at Vanderbilt, Tulane and Pitt. He's currently Harbaugh's offensive coordinator in San Francisco and spent time with him in Palo Alto, although most of his experience has come in the NFL.

Harbaugh has made it clear that Roman is the architect of the Stanford and 49ers offenses.

punch it in 11-13-2012 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;963789]College coaches aren't it. It's a different game. Harbaugh has done well because 1) His team was stacked with talent 2) He played in the NFL and knows the game.


I would go with a hungry assistant in the NFL looking to make a name for himself.[/QUOTE]

Im sure there are some capable college coaches. Alot of head coaches came up thru the college ranks whether as assisstants or head coaches. Again the fo should be able to do their job and find a good one. I have no problem with the assisstants already in the nfl. Perry fewel gets my vote btw.

NC_Skins 11-13-2012 09:51 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;963781]I think NC Skins is starting to lean against Shanny.. Am I right? lol[/quote]

I'm still for giving Mike next year at least. UNLESS, the team continues to play with lack of desire and this in house drama continues on. We'll see in the off-season.

Hog1 11-13-2012 10:04 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;963773]Before I weigh in on the "Pony" v. "No Pony" debate, I really, really need to know how the mods feel about it. I just don't know what to think until they inform my opinion.

Smootsmack's boots taste like cotton candy.[/quote]

OMG, could you get any lower, you bootlickin', Pony....apologist!
When I throw down with the OMG....you know it's on.

That Guy 11-13-2012 10:06 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
well, this thread seems to have exploded. I'd like to clear some things up though.

NC is a great bootlicker. every time i get a new pair of boots, i always ask for him by name.

matty is the reason conspiracy theorists exist. roswell - matty, jfk - matty, the great defecator conspiracy of 2004... yep, matty. he's evil.

TAFKATAFKASS - just an all around jerk... and a liar. avoid him.


and once again the reason people are avoiding this thread (or have been) is because it's basically been a 3 way circle jerk about how awful shannahan is and anyone who doesn't want him fired or immediately joins in the bashing is an idiot and an a-hole. it's not like we're never seen a trolled thread before. if this were 3-4 years ago someone would spend the time sorting through every point, but it's just generally easier to ignore people and hope they go away.

and believe it or not, i wasn't super up on getting shanny in the first place, but what's the idea? i've heard del rio mentioned seriously by one of the main culprits here. and he thinks you're the idiot.

i don't know. it's not a great situation, but there's no way he's fired before the year's up and at that point, it depends on how the season plays out and who's available. if there aren't better options, you have to sit. we went through last year without a QB cause the only ones available were matt flynn and gabbert... if we had been as reactionary as some of you guys are suggesting, we'd be an 0-fer team still looking for a QB.

vinny's gone, the team is younger, the offense (when healthy) looks like it'll be pretty good. the defense is a mess and the depth still isn't good, but it is what it is. and I think everyone agrees we're not where we want to be, but we're also not jacksonville.

and punch, maybe you are making good points, maybe you aren't, but if you think people are going to read 1,900 posts to figure it out, well, no thanks. less volume, more content please.

53Fan 11-13-2012 10:10 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;963792]Who the hell do you think the Offensive Co-ordination for the 49ers is? Greg Roman!

[url=http://www.49ers.com/team/coaches/greg-roman/d5446825-2178-4237-ab3d-f3fca703dfd2]San Francisco 49ers: Greg Roman[/url][/quote]

Pretty impressive stats. Even moreso considering Alex Smith is his QB. This is the kind of guy I'm talking about!!! Like you said...no one knew who the hell Joe Gibbs was either and that turned out pretty well. Hire him and some young up and coming DC and we might have something for a long time. Skinsfaniok brought up Chip Kelly. I've heard good things about him also. Know much about him? Does he have any pro experience?

Hog1 11-13-2012 10:11 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=That Guy;963801]well, this thread seems to have exploded. I'd like to clear some things up though.

NC is a great bootlicker. every time i get a new pair of boots, i always ask for him by name.

matty is the reason conspiracy theorists exist. roswell - matty, jfk - matty, the great defecator conspiracy of 2004... yep, matty. he's evil.

TAFKATAFKASS - just an all around jerk... and a liar. avoid him.


and once again the reason people are avoiding this thread (or have been) is because it's basically been a 3 way circle jerk about how awful shannahan is and anyone who doesn't want him fired or immediately joins in the bashing is an idiot and an a-hole. it's not like we're never seen a trolled thread before. if this were 3-4 years ago someone would spend the time sorting through every point, but it's just generally easier to ignore people and hope they go away.

and believe it or not, i wasn't super up on getting shanny in the first place, but what's the idea? i've heard del rio mentioned seriously by one of the main culprits here. and he thinks you're the idiot.

i don't know. it's not a great situation, but there's no way he's fired before the year's up and at that point, it depends on how the season plays out and who's available. if there aren't better options, you have to sit. we went through last year without a QB cause the only ones available were matt flynn and gabbert... if we had been as reactionary as some of you guys are suggesting, we'd be an 0-fer team still looking for a QB.

vinny's gone, the team is younger, the offense (when healthy) looks like it'll be pretty good. the defense is a mess and the depth still isn't good, but it is what it is. and I think everyone agrees we're not where we want to be, but we're also not jacksonville.

and punch, maybe you are making good points, maybe you aren't, but if you think people are going to read 1,900 posts to figure it out, well, no thanks. less volume, more content please.[/quote]

Where were the Hell were you 113 pages ago?
....Sweet Prophetic Wisdom

Bucket 11-13-2012 10:12 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=That Guy;963801]well, this thread seems to have exploded. I'd like to clear some things up though.

NC is a great bootlicker. every time i get a new pair of boots, i always ask for him by name.

matty is the reason conspiracy theorists exist. roswell - matty, jfk - matty, the great defecator conspiracy of 2004... yep, matty. he's evil.

TAFKATAFKASS - just an all around jerk... and a liar. avoid him.


and once again the reason people are avoiding this thread (or have been) is because it's basically been a 3 way circle jerk about how awful shannahan is and anyone who doesn't want him fired or immediately joins in the bashing is an idiot and an a-hole. it's not like we're never seen a trolled thread before. if this were 3-4 years ago someone would spend the time sorting through every point, but it's just generally easier to ignore people and hope they go away.

and believe it or not, i wasn't super up on getting shanny in the first place, but what's the idea? i've heard del rio mentioned seriously by one of the main culprits here. and he thinks you're the idiot.

i don't know. it's not a great situation, but there's no way he's fired before the year's up and at that point, it depends on how the season plays out and who's available. if there aren't better options, you have to sit. we went through last year without a QB cause the only ones available were matt flynn and gabbert... if we had been as reactionary as some of you guys are suggesting, we'd be an 0-fer team still looking for a QB.

vinny's gone, the team is younger, the offense (when healthy) looks like it'll be pretty good. the defense is a mess and the depth still isn't good, but it is what it is. and I think everyone agrees we're not where we want to be, but we're also not jacksonville.

and punch, maybe you are making good points, maybe you aren't, but if you think people are going to read 1,900 posts to figure it out, well, no thanks. less volume, more content please.[/quote]

Wow.. 400 pages and it took this long to get a post i actually read. Lol nice man

53Fan 11-13-2012 10:25 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;963773]Before I weigh in on the "Pony" v. "No Pony" debate, I really, really need to know how the mods feel about it. I just don't know what to think until they inform my opinion.

Smootsmack's boots taste like cotton candy.[/quote]

Hmmm. Thats funny cause his sneakers taste like Candy Apples and his sandals taste like warm soft pretzels. Must spend a lot of time at the carnival. Oh wait....this IS the carnival! Where's the pony's??

SFREDSKIN 11-13-2012 10:38 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=53Fan;963803]Pretty impressive stats. Even moreso considering Alex Smith is his QB. This is the kind of guy I'm talking about!!! Like you said...no one knew who the hell Joe Gibbs was either and that turned out pretty well. Hire him and some young up and coming DC and we might have something for a long time. Skinsfaniok brought up Chip Kelly. I've heard good things about him also. Know much about him? Does he have any pro experience?[/quote]

I like Chip Kelly, the only negative about him is he hasn't really developed a QB like Roman. Roman guided David Carr to his best year under him with Houston, Luck at Stanford and was a miracle worker with Alex Smith.

53Fan 11-13-2012 10:46 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
I'd love to see Roman with RG3.

The Goat 11-13-2012 10:46 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;963784]I don't see Gruden leaving ESPN honestly[/quote]

Me neither. It's a dream job for Gruden, would be for most dudes.

My dream job: sports car reviewer/writer.

skinsfaninok 11-13-2012 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;963810]I like Chip Kelly, the only negative about him is he hasn't really developed a QB like Roman. Roman guided David Carr to his best year under him with Houston, Luck at Stanford and was a miracle worker with Alex Smith.[/QUOTE]

True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure

punch it in 11-13-2012 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=That Guy;963801]well, this thread seems to have exploded. I'd like to clear some things up though.

NC is a great bootlicker. every time i get a new pair of boots, i always ask for him by name.

matty is the reason conspiracy theorists exist. roswell - matty, jfk - matty, the great defecator conspiracy of 2004... yep, matty. he's evil.

TAFKATAFKASS - just an all around jerk... and a liar. avoid him.


and once again the reason people are avoiding this thread (or have been) is because it's basically been a 3 way circle jerk about how awful shannahan is and anyone who doesn't want him fired or immediately joins in the bashing is an idiot and an a-hole. it's not like we're never seen a trolled thread before. if this were 3-4 years ago someone would spend the time sorting through every point, but it's just generally easier to ignore people and hope they go away.

and believe it or not, i wasn't super up on getting shanny in the first place, but what's the idea? i've heard del rio mentioned seriously by one of the main culprits here. and he thinks you're the idiot.

i don't know. it's not a great situation, but there's no way he's fired before the year's up and at that point, it depends on how the season plays out and who's available. if there aren't better options, you have to sit. we went through last year without a QB cause the only ones available were matt flynn and gabbert... if we had been as reactionary as some of you guys are suggesting, we'd be an 0-fer team still looking for a QB.

vinny's gone, the team is younger, the offense (when healthy) looks like it'll be pretty good. the defense is a mess and the depth still isn't good, but it is what it is. and I think everyone agrees we're not where we want to be, but we're also not jacksonville.

and punch, maybe you are making good points, maybe you aren't, but if you think people are going to read 1,900 posts to figure it out, well, no thanks. less volume, more content please.[/QUOTE]

Who ever once said if you dont bash shanny your an a-hole? Thats just pure nonsense.
Also - i dont expect anybody to read every post by anyone. I know i dont.
I just made 5 posts about a pony? Dont care if they go unnoticed or unappreciated. Not sure how much content i can give pony talk. You are taking what i said out of context. When someone quotes me or mentions me by name and i counter with a good point - that is usually when i hear about my postcount.
This is fun for me - i learn alot on here - and i take it for what it is - football talk amongst fellow redskins fans.

SFREDSKIN 11-13-2012 10:51 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;963813]True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure[/quote]

Was it dink and dunk at Stanford? Not with Luck it wasn't, he reminds me of Gibbs, big OL with punishing RB and a bonus damn good QB. A winning combination

punch it in 11-13-2012 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;963813]True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure[/QUOTE]

I think thats cus Alex Smith has a dink and dunk arm.

53Fan 11-13-2012 10:56 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;963813]True but doesn't Roman run more of a dink and dunk offense? I'd think rg3 would rather have that full Playbook. Of course I don't watch much sf games so idk for sure[/quote]

I'm guessing but he probably fits the offense to what he has. SF didn't really have much receiver or QB wise to work with in 2011 did they? I mean they did well but Morgan was hurt and Smith hadn't shown alot to that point. He didn't dink and duck with Luck.

skinsfaninok 11-13-2012 10:57 PM

I'll give u guys that, Alex Smith obviously is no where near Griffin

SFREDSKIN 11-13-2012 11:00 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
Here's an example of the dink and dunk scores at Stanford in 2010 with Roman and Luck. [url=http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-10/pac-10/2010-stanford-cardinal-football-schedule.php]2010 Stanford Cardinal Football Schedule[/url]

skinsfaninok 11-13-2012 11:07 PM

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;963819]Here's an example of the dink and dunk scores at Stanford in 2010 with Roman and Luck. [url=http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-10/pac-10/2010-stanford-cardinal-football-schedule.php]2010 Stanford Cardinal Football Schedule[/url][/QUOTE]

No doubt he did great w luck.

The Goat 11-13-2012 11:23 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
The contrast here is pretty good the last several pages. On the one hand you (still) have fans asking if there's any good/great HC prospects out there, and then when nobody steals the keyboard to answer lol they go on w/ the assumption Shanny just can't be replaced. And the other hand you have a damn fine educational dialogue about some good/great prospects out there. For what it's worth anyone named Roman is badass to the core. Git em!!

I really don't get the hate on Del Rio as a defensive coach. Look what he's done in Denver already. So you give him a stupid fancy title as Asst Head Coach - Defense. Roman is HC. Done. (Trying saying that in a Christopher Walken voice hehe)

The Goat 11-13-2012 11:25 PM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=punch it in;963816]I think thats cus Alex Smith has a dink and dunk arm.[/quote]

Smith definitely isn't asked to do too much. But then you have playoff games last year where he looked like a PBer. He's a tough one to figure out IMO.

SFREDSKIN 11-14-2012 12:12 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;963767]Back on topic and posting some info that is very disheartening to hear.


[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
1. Haslett will be fired after this season [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
2. Internal discussions on if Raheem should get the job. 3. Some D coaches dont want morris to get the job..want team to go outside org [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
so damn frustrating knowing our defensive coaches are privately worried about who the DC should be NEXT year..not like we have a game sun.. [/B]
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[B]
LL ‏@HTTR24_7
@jaredkaufman front office is not all on board with Raheem.. split room. [/B]
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[B]
LL ‏@HTTR24_7
I didn't even get to the offense and defense infighting that's going on.. Wish all this would just get fixed [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Aslo on the Pod... #Redskins executive on Shanahan " He is a joke at this point... A real expensive joke" [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Source: Snyder made Shanahan backtrack/spin from his "evaluation" comments.. That explains the awkward Monday presser where Dan was mentioned A lot [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Sunday will be the tell all for this team.. I hope they show up and play well to get the victory. A bad showing will increase the drama. [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
for the record I have been a Shanahan guy since day 1.Still have hope, feel like a kid being told santa isn't real right about now [/B]


I think these past couple weeks has changed the game a bit in terms of Mike. If he allows this type of shit to continue on in and it shows on the field, it would be hard to bring him back. Coaches bickering about who's going to be the DC next year when the season isn't even over? Hey assholes, how about planning for the game this Sunday!!! It's like the coaches have given up as well gathering from these tweets. SMH

One thing that I judge coaches on is how the team responds. Sometimes you really can't go by wins, even though it generally reflects exactly how the team is responding. Many times they can respond very well and talent still not be there to win. That said, there was a difference in how the Skins have played the past two games. The team that played against the Falcons and Giants, aren't the same team that played against the Steelers or the Panthers. Same talent, but definitely not the same desire or fire.


We'll know Sunday. If the Skins lose or get blown out, you can expect it to get worse. I think our only chance is if RGIII rallies this team.[/quote]

[url]http://www.blogtalkradio.com/httr-2-4-7-/2012/11/13/rumors-everywhere[/url]

The Goat 11-14-2012 12:28 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
^^^ This stuff is not surprising, right? What did we think is going on behind the scene's for a team - players and coaches (coaches especially) - to be so poorly prepared for gamedays?

SFREDSKIN 11-14-2012 12:37 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=The Goat;963831]^^^ This stuff is not surprising, right? What did we think is going on behind the scene's for a team - players and coaches (coaches especially) - to be so poorly prepared for gamedays?[/quote]

Did u listen to the radio conversation on the link I posted? Very interesting stuff.

The Goat 11-14-2012 12:45 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;963833]Did u listen to the radio conversation on the link I posted? Very interesting stuff.[/quote]

Yep just about through it. Assuming it's legit I wonder which exec it is? Sometimes I wonder if Jerry Jones (he's an "exec" right?) just makes stupid shit up to mess with Danny Boy lol. Who knows?

Wonder how long this has been brewing too? Team has regressed steadily since the loss to NY...

Bucket 11-14-2012 02:23 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
Assuming rumors are legit..

Now we are getting somewhere!

SmootSmack 11-14-2012 07:02 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;963767]Back on topic and posting some info that is very disheartening to hear.


[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
1. Haslett will be fired after this season [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
2. Internal discussions on if Raheem should get the job. 3. Some D coaches dont want morris to get the job..want team to go outside org [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
so damn frustrating knowing our defensive coaches are privately worried about who the DC should be NEXT year..not like we have a game sun.. [/B]
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[B]
LL ‏@HTTR24_7
@jaredkaufman front office is not all on board with Raheem.. split room. [/B]
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[B]
LL ‏@HTTR24_7
I didn't even get to the offense and defense infighting that's going on.. Wish all this would just get fixed [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Aslo on the Pod... #Redskins executive on Shanahan " He is a joke at this point... A real expensive joke" [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Source: Snyder made Shanahan backtrack/spin from his "evaluation" comments.. That explains the awkward Monday presser where Dan was mentioned A lot [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Sunday will be the tell all for this team.. I hope they show up and play well to get the victory. A bad showing will increase the drama. [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
for the record I have been a Shanahan guy since day 1.Still have hope, feel like a kid being told santa isn't real right about now [/B]


I think these past couple weeks has changed the game a bit in terms of Mike. If he allows this type of shit to continue on in and it shows on the field, it would be hard to bring him back. Coaches bickering about who's going to be the DC next year when the season isn't even over? Hey assholes, how about planning for the game this Sunday!!! It's like the coaches have given up as well gathering from these tweets. SMH

One thing that I judge coaches on is how the team responds. Sometimes you really can't go by wins, even though it generally reflects exactly how the team is responding. Many times they can respond very well and talent still not be there to win. That said, there was a difference in how the Skins have played the past two games. The team that played against the Falcons and Giants, aren't the same team that played against the Steelers or the Panthers. Same talent, but definitely not the same desire or fire.


We'll know Sunday. If the Skins lose or get blown out, you can expect it to get worse. I think our only chance is if RGIII rallies this team.[/quote]

Good stuff. Some I already knew, some I could have pretty easily guessed. Some that doesn't really surprise me, and some that I'm surprised by.

LL/HTTR is good. Really good. He lives the life I used to live...and miss

mbedner3420 11-14-2012 08:21 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;963840]Good stuff. Some I already knew, some I could have pretty easily guessed. Some that doesn't really surprise me, and some that I'm surprised by.

LL/HTTR is good. Really good. He lives the life I used to live...and miss[/quote]

If you miss it, why did you move on?

SmootSmack 11-14-2012 08:31 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=mbedner3420;963841]If you miss it, why did you move on?[/quote]

I didn't miss all of it. And I wanted to go on to broader things.

And really I don't know what kind of live he leads, or even who he is. What I know of him he seems like a pretty good dude.

Chico23231 11-14-2012 09:02 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;963767]Back on topic and posting some info that is very disheartening to hear.


[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
1. Haslett will be fired after this season [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
2. Internal discussions on if Raheem should get the job. 3. Some D coaches dont want morris to get the job..want team to go outside org [/B]
-------------------------------------------------------------------

[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
so damn frustrating knowing our defensive coaches are privately worried about who the DC should be NEXT year..not like we have a game sun.. [/B]
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[B]
LL ‏@HTTR24_7
@jaredkaufman front office is not all on board with Raheem.. split room. [/B]
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[B]
LL ‏@HTTR24_7
I didn't even get to the offense and defense infighting that's going on.. Wish all this would just get fixed [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Aslo on the Pod... #Redskins executive on Shanahan " He is a joke at this point... A real expensive joke" [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Source: Snyder made Shanahan backtrack/spin from his "evaluation" comments.. That explains the awkward Monday presser where Dan was mentioned A lot [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
Sunday will be the tell all for this team.. I hope they show up and play well to get the victory. A bad showing will increase the drama. [/B]
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[B]LL ‏@HTTR24_7
for the record I have been a Shanahan guy since day 1.Still have hope, feel like a kid being told santa isn't real right about now [/B]


I think these past couple weeks has changed the game a bit in terms of Mike. If he allows this type of shit to continue on in and it shows on the field, it would be hard to bring him back. Coaches bickering about who's going to be the DC next year when the season isn't even over? Hey assholes, how about planning for the game this Sunday!!! It's like the coaches have given up as well gathering from these tweets. SMH

One thing that I judge coaches on is how the team responds. Sometimes you really can't go by wins, even though it generally reflects exactly how the team is responding. Many times they can respond very well and talent still not be there to win. That said, there was a difference in how the Skins have played the past two games. The team that played against the Falcons and Giants, aren't the same team that played against the Steelers or the Panthers. Same talent, but definitely not the same desire or fire.


We'll know Sunday. If the Skins lose or get blown out, you can expect it to get worse. I think our only chance is if RGIII rallies this team.[/quote]

IF this is correct, Im really surprised Shanny wouldnt have a better grasp on the coaching staff and the environment behind the scenes. If there is infighting, sorry, the locker room is lost. Winning cures all, but...

CRedskinsRule 11-14-2012 09:09 AM

Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;963781]I think NC Skins is starting to lean against Shanny.. Am I right? lol[/quote]

now that NC knows that a vote for Shanny is a vote for The Man at the Warpath, he obviously thinks Shanny should go today, and that Shanahan is responsible for all the woes that have befallen the team not related to DSnyder.


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