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[quote=Paintrain;963902]So again this goes to my previous post, our roster isn't suited to that style of play. You're good with starting over again with the OL because we aren't big & physical, RB because Morris is perfect for our scheme but probably wouldn't fit as well in others and WR because we don't have weapons for a 'wide open' scheme.

Offense isn't close to an issue for us, we need to fix the D.[/quote]

True, fix the defense first but there is nothing to say you couldn't gradually change the players to fit the scheme that he likes

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[quote=Paintrain;963903]I don't care 4-3 or 3-4, both work if schemed properly. We've got major backend personnel issues but if those get shored up and we're healthy on the front 7 I think our defense would be decent under a better coordinator. I doubt changing back to a 4-3 would magically transform us back to a top 10 unit.[/quote]

I agree with this. I like the 4-3 better and I think it is easier to get players that fit the 4-3 scheme than the 3-4

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[quote=Paintrain;963902]So again this goes to my previous post, our roster isn't suited to that style of play. You're good with starting over again with the OL because we aren't big & physical, RB because Morris is perfect for our scheme but probably wouldn't fit as well in others and WR because we don't have weapons for a 'wide open' scheme.

Offense isn't close to an issue for us, we need to fix the D.[/quote]

Offense is fine, we have the working pieces, a RT is needed. D is the main problem.

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[quote=SmootSmack;963896]Who's saying Jon Gruden would come here?[/quote]

um...no one. actually, so far no one is saying anyone is coming here.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;963914]Offense is fine, we have the working pieces, a RT is needed. D is the main problem.[/QUOTE]

Knowing is half the battle. At this point we have to battle with what we have. Hell seems like we have solved the kicker problem that has plagued us for years. Come the offseason i think the issues are pretty much as obvious as can be. Garcon's injury is the one x-factor for me. If it is a career derailing injury than wide reciever becomes an issue(moss is probably due to age in his final year). Not sure we have enough cap space/ draft picks to fix wr , rt, maybe mlb, and our secondary.

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[quote=53Fan;963854]At what point do things stop being rumors and become facts with you? Just curious. It's been obvious the team has had individual blowups with no disciplinary action whatsoever. There has been a noticeable lack of intensity the last couple of weeks. Shanahan practically said he was throwing in the towell on the rest of the season no matter how he tried to explain it afterward. SS reported on the friction between Fletch and a couple of other players with Haslett. And SS said he already knew some of this was going on and wasn't surprised by some of the rest. Just curious what it takes for something to stop being a rumor and becoming a fact in your eyes. I heard the economy sucks and unemployment is high....I guess we'll have to wait and see on that one too huh? :)[/quote]

No because the economy sucking and the unemployment being high is actually facts.. There is numbers and stats behind it.

I've seen this before on different scales around the league. People here something, and then assume it's right and then spread it around for a little jest.

Ill start believing a rumor when it's not a RUMOR :) Till then, i'm just going to enjoy the game this Sunday and the rest of the season.

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[QUOTE=Bucket;963942]No because the economy sucking and the unemployment being high is actually facts.. There is numbers and stats behind it.

I've seen this before on different scales around the league. People here something, and then assume it's right and then spread it around for a little jest.

Ill start believing a rumor when it's not a RUMOR :) Till then, i'm just going to enjoy the game this Sunday and the rest of the season.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but this info is coming from reliable places. If you are waiting for Shanny to come out and say he has lost the team or for Griff to come out and say he is not happy it aint gonna happen
Im with ya about enjoyin the game though.

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[quote=Mattyk;963867]I wonder if there has ever been a losing team that doesn't have internal strife. Nobody likes to lose. It raises the level of stress and tension in any organization. Winning some games would quickly get things back in order.[/quote]

How many losing teams with this kind of internal strife rebound under the same regime/leadership?

Kinda gets back to that "how long do you give them" debate.

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[quote=Chico23231;963879]I guess thats changed.

Replacing a Shanny with a Gruden, Cowher...just not a strong move imo. Doesnt make sense to me.

A move that I wouldnt mind (braces for attack) when it comes to retread at head coach would be Reid WITHOUT Marty Morningweg coming along.[/quote]

If Gruden or Cowher called and said they WANT to coach this team, do you at least set up a meeting?

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[quote=The Goat;963951]If Gruden or Cowher called and said they WANT to coach this team, do you at least set up a meeting?[/quote]

Well, I would first ask each one over the phone "what is a sycophant?" Gruden would obviously know and would set up a meeting. Cowher would not and would be hung up on. Upon the arrival of Gruden to our meeting, I would have on my finest boots, Doc Martins of course, and after walking through all the bullshit of this thread they would be quite filthy. Id first ask how bad to you want to coach this team and raise my shit kickers for the bootlickin'. Gruden would squint real hard and then remember his easy job at the mothership and probably walk out. Neither have what it takes to do the job.

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[quote=Chico23231;963954]Well, I would first ask each one over the phone "what is a sycophant?" Gruden would obviously know and would set up a meeting. Cowher would not and would be hung up on. Upon the arrival of Gruden to our meeting, I would have on my finest boots, Doc Martins of course, and after walking through all the bullshit of this thread they would be quite filthy. Id first ask how bad to you want to coach this team and raise my shit kickers for the bootlickin'. Gruden would squint real hard and then remember his easy job at the mothership and probably walk out. Neither have what it takes to do the job.[/quote]

:laughing2

That's excellent. For the record I'd be more excited about up and coming HC talent too. A guy who knows his stuff, is hungry for battle and doesn't give two shits about the media nightmare all coaches face in DC.

The fact of the matter is that all big market teams face media nightmares. In every sport. Winning makes them go away. If Washington had a problem as far as getting people to want to take the HC job it was Snyder. He seems to have backed off and let the football people do their job this time around, therefore, i would imagine, setting a precedent for any future regime.

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[quote=punch it in;963960]The fact of the matter is that all big market teams face media nightmares. In every sport. Winning makes them go away. If Washington had a problem as far as getting people to want to take the HC job it was Snyder. He seems to have backed off and let the football people do their job this time around, therefore, i would imagine, setting a precedent for any future regime.[/quote]

Not if he fires Shanahan after 3 years. It would basically fall back directly into his pattern.

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I was just wondering if anyone knew that Mike Shanahan has only won one playoff game in 14 years...........

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I was also wondering if anyone else knew that Mike Shanahan rode to two Super Bowl victories on the backs of Elway and Davis?

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Right, because Elway and Davis owe none of their success at all to Shanahan. He just sat there twiddling his thumbs

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Lastly, I was wondering if anyone can answer why Mike Shanahan gave away draft picks for McNabb if he was rebuilding????????


(sorry, with all the talk of rant, repeated arguements, beating a dead horse, beating a dog, feeding the dead dog his shit, him shitting it back out using it as manure to grow more dogs to feed their shit to just to shit it back out and used as manure again, I couldn't resist..........

ps- we should have a dog taking a dump smilie, and then one of a dog being fed his shit smilie!!!!!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;963965]Right, because Elway and Davis owe none of their success at all to Shanahan. He just sat there twiddling his thumbs[/quote]

SS, joke dude! I understand Mike was totally responsible!

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[quote=Mechanix544;963963]I was also wondering if anyone else knew that Mike Shanahan rode to two Super Bowl victories on the backs of Elway and Davis?[/quote]

Pages 10-20 called.. They want you to discuss further there since im sure this dead horse has been beaten to death from all opinions and directions, and no... I dont agree with you

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None of this will matter when the Jets fire Rex Ryan and we hire him

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[quote=Mechanix544;963967]SS, joke dude! I understand Mike was totally responsible![/quote]

Oh.. lol you got me.

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[quote=SmootSmack;963969]None of this will matter when the Jets fire Rex Ryan and we hire him[/quote]

...as the defense cordinator

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[quote=SmootSmack;963969]None of this will matter when the Jets fire Rex Ryan and we hire him[/quote]

I think we should set up a visit, have some pedicurists and some foot models ready to go. Put in his contract "unlimited access to the Redskinettes socks and shoes", and we should be good to go.

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[quote=Chico23231;963971]...as the defense cordinator[/quote]

IF Rex comes here it would only be as HC

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[quote=SmootSmack;963974]IF Rex comes here it would only be as HC[/quote]

pass

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[quote=SmootSmack;963969]None of this will matter when the Jets fire Rex Ryan and we hire him[/quote]
well at least he's not a [B][U]BOOT[/U][/B]licker

[QUOTE=Paintrain;963961]Not if he fires Shanahan after 3 years. It would basically fall back directly into his pattern.[/QUOTE]

Touche
Lol
Difference between hiring/firing and noodling with a regime that is in place. Also from what I hear their are FO people not happy with Shanny. So depending on how they spin it Snyder could still be virtually invisible during the process.

[QUOTE=Mechanix544;963963]I was also wondering if anyone else knew that Mike Shanahan rode to two Super Bowl victories on the backs of Elway and Davis?[/QUOTE]

One playoff win in 14 years is a serious issue.
Elway was at the end of his career and he actually rode Shanny and the ZBS to two superbowl victories. I always have and always will give him full credit for that.

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[quote=punch it in;963982]One playoff win in 14 years is a serious issue.
Elway was at the end of his career and he actually rode Shanny and the ZBS to two superbowl victories. I always have and always will give him full credit for that.[/quote]

OK. It was just a joke. Its good that the comment is spurring discussion, but it was just a joke.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;963969]None of this will matter when the Jets fire Rex Ryan and we hire him[/QUOTE]

Never know if you are stirring the pot or dropping knowledge but lets just say that is the case. Does Rob follow him as DC?

[QUOTE=Mechanix544;963983]OK. It was just a joke. Its good that the comment is spurring discussion, but it was just a joke.[/QUOTE]

Totally knew you were stirring the pot. I am just trying to buy votes from the "apologists". Kidding - Totally meant what i said about the two superbowls though.

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[quote=punch it in;963984]Never know if you are stirring the pot or dropping knowledge but lets just say that is the case. Does Rob follow him as DC?[/quote]

I'm stirring the pot. Have not dropped any knowledge today. Just having some fun

I think you should pay attention to what LL/HTTR has to say. He's a smart dude who knows what's up.

He and I hear many of the same things but I know he hears much more specifically about the Redskins than I do.

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Dammit there goes those voices again!
Before I catch grief for the recent amount of posts, they were all in direct response to me being quoted.
Except this one.

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[quote=SmootSmack;963987]I'm stirring the pot. Have not dropped any knowledge today. Just having some fun

I think you should pay attention to what LL/HTTR has to say. He's a smart dude who knows what's up.

He and I hear many of the same things but I know he hears much more specifically about the Redskins than I do.[/quote]

Yeah - he is good. You both are even though you are "out" of that gig for now.

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[quote=SmootSmack;963987]I'm stirring the pot. Have not dropped any knowledge today. Just having some fun

I think you should pay attention to what LL/HTTR has to say. He's a smart dude who knows what's up.

He and I hear many of the same things but I know he hears much more specifically about the Redskins than I do.[/quote]

He'll be on the radio today at 6:30pm EST with Michael Lombardi from the NFL network.

Here's the link to listen to LL/HTTR broadcast:

[url]http://www.blogtalkradio.com/httr-2-4-7-/2012/11/15/httr-247-feat-m-lombardi[/url]

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I think we often hear similar things but from different places so that helps verify it

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;963994]I think we often hear similar things but from different places so that helps verify it[/QUOTE]

Him from the players and you from the players wives? While he is distracting them your popping in for some QT.

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[quote=punch it in;963996]Him from the players and you from the players wives? While he is distracting them your popping in for some QT.[/quote]

Haha, sure. Let's go with that

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[quote=Paintrain;963961]Not if he fires Shanahan after 3 years. It would basically fall back directly into his pattern.[/quote]

Sorry but that's just ridiculous. Three years is a lifetime in the NFL and everyone knows Mike's record here is abysmal. He's even seen as an expensive joke, which is worse than the simple joke I've been calling him lol.

To the contrary, showing Shanny the door indicates a franchise serious about getting on the right track and winning. And RG3 will attract coaching talent regardless. In fact I think potential HCs will jump at the opportunity, exactly the opposite what you believe.