[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;805001]They should not have been put on the spot by the coaches association and they should not have been asked by anyone to sign a statement supporting management.[/QUOTE]

I agree with that.

[QUOTE=wilsowilso;805003]Nobody in this NFL labor fight is going to lose their job. This is a battle between rich people and super rich people.

But if we are talking about sacrificing our jobs in the fight to face off against uncontrolled corporate greed it's obvious that the super rich are in a great position right now as you point out middle class Americans find themselves so leveraged by mortgages, debts and twenty three monthly bills every month that it seems impossible to even consider putting up a fight when it comes to labor disputes?

It's a joke. American laborers died in the streets so that they could earn a chance at a living wage.

Now that the middle class has gotten so drunk off of a steady diet of fast food, mindless television and a garage filled with toys we can't afford we are incapable of staring down management and the super rich?

The distribution of wealth is at a staggeringly unhealthy level and yet we elect politicians who fight tooth and nail to give tax breaks to corporations and the super rich?

Maybe Americans can start voting for politicians who are interested in helping people.

To answer your question I would put my job on the line.

But as you said I would obviously do my best to use every other avenue to get my opinion heard.....only because I have a family I'm responsible for, I've got lots of bills and I don't make that much money.[/QUOTE]

Can't say I disagree with what you've said. The rising tide has not lifted all boats equally. Plenty of numbers to back that up.

For the record I support the players and actually wouldn't be terribly upset if we didn't have football next year to reach a deal on their terms. A win for them would be great for labor across the board.

I'm just saying its tough to throw it all out the window to support a cause for ideals and principles if there is a lot on the line. Easier to say you would.

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout
 

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/01/cowboys-rams-come-out-against-coaches-association-brief-too/]Cowboys, Rams come out against Coaches Association brief too | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Add the Jaguars

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/06/01/jags.ap/]Jaguars coaches distance themselves from NFLCA filing - NFL - SI.com[/url]

So five teams now? Funny, because I thought it was just Snyder bullying the coaching staff of the Redskins.

6. Texans too. What kind of joke is the NFLCA considering they didn't seem to consult too many coaches?

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[quote=SmootSmack;805299]Add the Jaguars

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/06/01/jags.ap/]Jaguars coaches distance themselves from NFLCA filing - NFL - SI.com[/url]

So five teams now? Funny, because I thought it was just Snyder bullying the coaching staff of the Redskins.[/quote]

Clearly Dan Snyder has bullied every other coach in the league as well.

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Looks like the NFLCA dropped the ball, but it'd be foolish to believe that this lockout is not affecting coaches. Honestly, I believe the coaches are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Yet I don't think signing letters of support for the owners is the best way to go.

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[quote=SmootSmack;805299]Add the Jaguars

[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/06/01/jags.ap/"]Jaguars coaches distance themselves from NFLCA filing - NFL - SI.com[/URL]

So five teams now? Funny, because I thought it was just Snyder bullying the coaching staff of the Redskins.[/quote]


Who said that?

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[quote=Giantone;805333]Who said that?[/quote]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/804777-post8.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/804741-post3.html[/url]

Re: Redskins coaches support owners in lockout
 

[quote=SmootSmack;805299]Add the Jaguars

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/06/01/jags.ap/]Jaguars coaches distance themselves from NFLCA filing - NFL - SI.com[/url]

So five teams now? Funny, because I thought it was just Snyder bullying the coaching staff of the Redskins.[/quote]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but have any of those other team's coaches sided with the owners like the Redskins coaches did. That is the difference here.

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[quote=NC_Skins;805356]Correct me if I'm wrong, but have any of those other team's coaches sided with the owners like the Redskins coaches did. That is the difference here.[/quote]

The Texans said they support the organization, which one can infer includes ownership

Saints said they support the owner

Cowboys said they didn't approve of the brief, but didn't outright mention support of the owner

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[quote=SmootSmack;805358]The Texans said they support the organization, which one can infer includes ownership

Saints said they support the owner

Cowboys said they didn't approve of the brief, but didn't outright mention support of the owner[/quote]

dang beat me to it:
here is a Saints coach quote though:
[quote]
New Orleans linebackers coach Joe Vitt was equally adamant in his opposition toward the brief.

"We're supporting the owners," Vitt told the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "I've said this a million times, our organization has been built on trust. [Owner Tom] Benson has been great to us. Unequivocally, we support our ownership."[/quote]

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There is no difference here unless you're looking for one.

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[quote=Mattyk;805361]There is no difference here unless you're looking for one.[/quote]


There is a huge difference. What I'm referring to is what the Cowboys apparently have done.

[quote]Cowboys said they didn't approve of the brief, but didn't outright mention support of the owner[/quote]


Making a statement about not supporting the brief is one thing. Making a statement that you are siding with the owners is entirely different situation. Huuuuuge difference. One is staying neutral by not picking a side, the other is siding with the very people who the players distrust.

The coaches(any of them) supporting the owners publicly are ****ing stupid to say the least. Now come training camp, you have coaches who ask their players to trust them? lol If I were a FA, I'd never play for a coach who openly sided with a owner in a labor dispute unless he was part of management. (a GM/HC combo) They have no dog in this fight. None. What reason do they have to support owners? I can understand the ones in dual roles in both coaching and management, but for most of these coaches, it's a stupid move.

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Taking a stand against the brief implies you're siding with the owners. Come on man stop with the semantics.