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[quote=Mattyk;1012600]Champ wanted out and wasn't coming back to DC. Skins hands were kinda tied in that regard.

Portis was coming off back to back 1500+ yard seasons and 29 TDs in Denver. He was definitely one of the top backs in the league at that time.[/quote]

He wanted a new contract and the Redskins refused to give him one, and he did not want to be franchised if I remember correctly. That was basically why he got traded.

There were still a couple of running backs better than Portis at the time. Still quite a few running backs that were better at the time, also remember he also came from the Shanahan system which produces running backs like crazy.

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[quote=donofriose;1012603]He wanted a new contract and the Redskins refused to give him one, and he did not want to be franchised if I remember correctly. That was basically why he got traded.

There were still a couple of running backs better than Portis at the time. [B]Still quite a few running backs that were better at the time,[/B] also remember he also came from the Shanahan system which produces running backs like crazy.[/quote]

Really? Please name "quite a few" backs who were coming off of back-to-back 1,500 yard seasons at the time of the Bailey-Portis trade.

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Most underrated: I'm going to say Will Montgomery. He did a heckuva job last year without getting noticed too much, although he did have a few bad snaps.

Most overrated: I'm going to say Orakpo, simply because most say he's pretty good, but he hasn't really played enough to show it. So I'll take a page out of CB59's book and adopt a prove-me-wrong mentality.

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[quote=donofriose;1012603]He wanted a new contract and the Redskins refused to give him one, and he did not want to be franchised if I remember correctly. That was basically why he got traded.

There were still a couple of running backs better than Portis at the time. Still quite a few running backs that were better at the time, also remember he also came from the Shanahan system which produces running backs like crazy.[/quote]

Nah, it was more along the lines of personal reasons that he needed to get out of town.

As for quite a few backs being better than him... how many guys put up the numbers that he did over that 2 year span??

In the end I think both teams got what they wanted out of the deal.

Re: Overrated/Underrated Redskins
 

[quote=donofriose;1012603]He wanted a new contract and the Redskins refused to give him one, and he did not want to be franchised if I remember correctly. That was basically why he got traded.

[B]There were still a couple of running backs better than Portis at the time. Still quite a few running backs that were better at the time[/B], also remember he also came from the Shanahan system which produces running backs like crazy.[/quote]

Explain, please? Am I missing something here?

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[quote=Mattyk;1012611]Nah, it was more along the lines of personal reasons that he needed to get out of town.[/quote]

The lyrics to Atomic Dog by George Clinton cover it nicely.

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[quote=Mattyk;1012611]Nah, it was more along the lines of personal reasons that he needed to get out of town.

As for quite a few backs being better than him... how many guys put up the numbers that he did over that 2 year span??

In the end I think both teams got what they wanted out of the deal.[/quote]

Absolutely, both teams got what they wanted and if memory serves not many fans had a problem with the deal either.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1012615]The lyrics to Atomic Dog by George Clinton cover it nicely.[/quote]

lol pretty much

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Current Underrated - Chris Chester & Josh Wilson

Current Overrated - Leonard Hankerson

All-time Underrated - Ricky Sanders

All-time Overrated - Lavar Arrington

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underrated - lichensteiger, montgomery bc both had very low profiles and expectations coming in and i think both have been very servicable to the zbs.

i leave chester out bc i think when he came over from the ravens he has lived up to but not exceeded expectation of being a decent to good guard. plus he gets a decent salary. i think he is rated just right.

overrated - i take hall off the list since he has a new and fair market value contract. i actually think if hall takes this offseason's disinterest in any team wanting to sign him as a sign he needs to re-eval his approach, i think he can quickly become a shutdown cb. im amazed at how this offseason has played out w regards to hall.

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I chose Chester because no one really remembers him but he's been our most reliable o-lineman since he came here. I believe it was the 2011 season, he was only starter to go all 16 games if I remember right, and he did a good job.

Montgomery was a great choice. A Center who doesn't draw attention is one who is doing a great job. Remember Rabach's constant TD and drive-killing penalties? He also couldn't snap in shotgun formation...gave Campbell an even tougher job. Since Montgomery took over...no issues.

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Other than silverback, chester is our best lineman, bar none.

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[quote=donofriose;1012603][B]He wanted a new contract and the Redskins refused to give him one, and he did not want to be franchised if I remember correctly. That was basically why he got traded.
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There were still a couple of running backs better than Portis at the time. Still quite a few running backs that were better at the time, also remember he also came from the Shanahan system which produces running backs like crazy.[/quote]

Spoken like someone who doesn't know the whole story.

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Underrated - Our whole offensive line. Mostly Montgomery.

Overrated - Roster/Helu

All Time.

Underrated - Ken Harvey

Overrated - Doug Williams